Dejon Supersidemount

[KPWSerpiente]

My Dejon Supersidemount arrived today.
This thing is massive. 9 x 9.5 x 5

I'm going to try and borrow a digital camera tomorrow when I do the install so I can show just how big it is.

For the price, it is expensive. 506 dollars shipped to my door. ADFX sells a sidemount for 300 dollars, though theirs is a little smaller.

If you are looking for a sidemount intercooler upgrade but eventually want to go FMIC, I would not recommend either the Dejon or the ADFX. Go pick up a Supra SM.

But for people like me who are happy not blinging it with a front mount and will have their whp goals met by something like the Dejon supersidemount, you should check it out.

www.dejontool.com
www.adfxracing.com

-T

 

[vlaar]

Sounds good. I'm not going frontmount for a long, long time. For 500 dollars, like you said, I can get a massive sidemount like the one Dejon sells. And for 500 dollars more, an excellent Alcohol Injection kit. About the same price as a front mount system, but better in my opinion

 

[rsunahar]

Can you please post installation tips or a review?

 

[jake98gst]

Installation should be pretty simple since it is just a replacement piece. It should bolt in the same way the stock sidemount was. I think Dejon's site says something about drilling one hole for a bolt. Other than that I can't imagine it being very different than bolting in a stocker.

Jake

 

[rsunahar]

If you look at it on the site, it looks as though the mounting points are rather different.

 

[deyja6]

i bought this intercooler used and just recently installed it. mine was painted black which is different from the pictures on the dejontool website. two of the mounting points are the same as stock and the third one is relocated because of the thickness of the core. you have to drill a new hole for this. i actually didn't even bother using this mounting point but probably will eventually. the outlet is 2.5" so an aftermarket uicp is probably required with a 2.5" adaptor hose. the stock lower hose will fit... barely.

i can't provide any hard performance numbers but it did seem to make a nice improvement. and it looks completely stock from the outside. it's a nice ic i think and a good alternative to the supra smic which isn't much bigger.

 

[98TsiAWD]

That sidemoutn was $349 a few months ago, why is it $499 now.

 

[deyja6]

i think they redesigned it so it's bigger.

 

[jake98gst]

It's a nice idea for those who don't want to have to buy new piping for a front mount and stick to a sleeper-like stock look and still be worlds better than the stocker. But the damn price is out of hand. You can almost buy a Spearco for that price (w/o piping but that's not the point). I'll be interested to see how this IC holds a 50 trim or a t3/t4 of some sort.

Jake

 

[sand14s]

Installation is a very simple affair. Two of the three stock bolt locations are good, and the third just requires a new hole to be drilled. Dejon failed to hit me up with a self tapping screw so I went to home depot and picked up several different sized ones. My pictures will be up real soon.

-T

*edit this is KPWSerpiente. Signed in on my boy's name.

-T

 

[rsunahar]

How are the quality of the welds?
How much cutting is actually necessary?

 

[98TsiAWD]

Just FYI, I have a Hahn sidemount on my 98 talon, and it fit perfect with no hacking or cutting. It also mounts in the 3 original bolt holes.

 

[rsunahar]

Originally posted by 98TsiAWD
Just FYI, I have a Hahn sidemount on my 98 talon, and it fit perfect with no hacking or cutting. It also mounts in the 3 original bolt holes.

Yes, but us 1g-ers are in dire need of a SMIC upgrade, hence this thread.

But thanks for the input.

 

[dsmturboawd]

hows this compare to a supra sidemount. i know those are proven and about 1/10th the price.

 

[snipe99999]

I have a big t-28 killer on my 2g running at 17 PSI because that is about as far as I will go on the stock side mount IC. Will this DEJONTOOL side mount IC be able to handle 22-24 PSI without a problem? And is it all I should need or should I still try and get a front mount.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
hows this compare to a supra sidemount. i know those are proven and about 1/10th the price.

Supra Sidemount of the 3 IC (Dejon, ADFX, Supra) is the smallest... Add to that hacking more than a Canadian lumberjack of your IC piping and hammering the car's frame and it's not worth it IMO. Supra owners ahve gotten wise and started charging 150 - 200 for it too. With that being said, and all the work that goes into it, you are better off with the Dejon or the ADFX...

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

We have the ADFX SMIC on 2 cars around here. One with a Big16g and another with a SCM50. The 50 trim isnt doing to hot on the SMIC anywhere above like 17psi. and we all know 17psi is a joke on a 50, FMIC is on the way for him. The Big16G is doing ok.

i'll update any info as i get customer feedback.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Good to hear... I am starting to lean towards a FMIC...

 

[98TsiAWD]

Originally posted by rsunahar
Yes, but us 1g-ers are in dire need of a SMIC upgrade, hence this thread.

But thanks for the input.

Alamo Motorsports makes one for 1g's, its HUGE.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by 98TsiAWD
Alamo Motorsports makes one for 1g's, its HUGE.

Jesus!! 720.00 for the 2G and 600.00 for the 1G.. That's big coin...

 

[dhonda]

Just FYI, I have a Hahn sidemount on my 98 talon, and it fit perfect with no hacking or cutting. It also mounts in the 3 original bolt holes.

I read your profile and I don't see it listed there? I am considering the purchase and would like to know if you thought it was worth the $$$. I am not going to get a fmic, so my choices are pretty much upgraded smic or just live with the heat soak.
Thanks.

(Didn't mean to jack the thread)

 

[Turbo Talon DL]

Does anybody have any good specs on a Starquest FMIC? Yeah...i know most people feel like at the sound and sight of it, but it wasnt too much $$ and its a front mount.
Whats a practical level of boost to run with this intercooler?

 

[red93tsi]

Here's my take on it. Some of you guys aren't looking at the whole equation. There are basic things to look at when replacing an IC. Flow and cooling efficiency. Flow isusually not a problem as long as you purchase the proper sized IC for the application. Now cooling is what they were made for. There are things being somewhat overlooked here. We'll just pretend they are all bar and plate very efficient models for this sake. The first thing that everyone realises, but usually never gets brought up is Location. Look at the ruffly 5x4'' opening to the smic. Not a ton af air moving through there. Although it is designed to move enough air through the cooling fins of a stock unit, when placing a 5'' thick Ic in there, you really aren't getting a ton more cooling. Granted that the design of an upgraded piece is more efficient, but you really don't have enough air moving through the intercooler fins to properly cool the increased intake air charge. The flow usually isn't a problem til you start getting into larger sized turbos. Second, which kind of goes hand in hand is surface area. The upgraded Ic's are large in volume, but not in cooling surface area. 5''s thick is for the flow, not helping cooling at all, anymore than if it were 1'' thick. If anything, it is allowing the charge flowing towards the rear of the ic to have a notibly warmer temp, than the surface area charge. Take any dsm bumper, even the smaller openings of the 1g's, and you can plainly see the opening is about 6x26 if I recall. Through a 7x30 FMIC in there with the same volume as any upgraded SMIC of the same quality and there will be no comparison in true efficiency. Not the #'s some companys post to sell there products. Notice those are usually half truths on most sites. 80% efficiency is fine @ 60 mph, but what were the inlet temps, and ambient air temps? Pushing 120* air through an Ic @ the rate of 100 cfm and getting it down to 40* isn't too hard when it's -12* outside. Not always the case, but it is very difficult to get real world results from products that were not tested in an independant study. whatever, I'll quit rambling now.

Fmic or bust..... You can get a whole FMIC set up for the same price as the dejon SMIC, that will yeild better #'s. Not bashing dejon at all, love the company, just using them as an example here.

 

[red93tsi]

Does anybody have any good specs on a Starquest FMIC? Yeah...i know most people feel like at the sound and sight of it, but it wasnt too much $$ and its a front mount.
Whats a practical level of boost to run with this intercooler?

Might as well relocate your stock SMIC to the front, you'll get the same results IMO. The starion ic's were made to cool even less air than the stock dsm SMICs. I don't get why people go through all the blood, sweat and tears to make that work, especially when now days you can find an all right FMIC core that won't kill your wallet. A $250 to $350 ebay core will get the job done 10x better. For such a small price difference, you might as well save for another month, and do it right the first time. If you're looking to go 50trim or bigger, you'll want to consider a pricier core though. But since you're talking about a starion core, I'm ruling that out. Good luck.

 

[red93tsi]

Can anyone tell me why my sig only seems to appear in half of my posts?
TIA

Is it allowed only one time per thread or something?