Do Spoilers do anything?

[focusedrage]

Ok so i go to this driving class at summit point raceway (dont know if you know it, in WV) anyway they were havign a race and this one car had a big spoiler, but it seemed to have the supports go between his trunk lid, the point is the thing looked alot more hardcore, and it looked nothing like any i have seen offered by any of the big companies in the import buissness... so my question is are the spoilers that can be gotten from like arospeed, and such, actualy provide downforce? And if not, where can i get a real racign spoiler?


I was looking at the arospeed-viper GT Wing and the bomz-Type III, although im not so sure now??

 

[Hobbes =^.^=]

Spoilers won't really do too much unless your RWD. Even if you are RWD, you won't really need it unless your going over speeds of 150+ They help keep the back of your car planted so there is maximum grip on your rear wheels at high speeds. Other then that, people put wings on their cars just for show. FWD do no benefit at all, other then putting more weight ono their car possibly. And AWD doesn't really benefit I dont think as much. I'm sure there is more to it, but thats what I could think of, out of the top of my head.

=^.^=

 

[UndergroundR32]

I always get a laugh out of the FWD cars having the big spoilers, whether is a show car, or a drag car. Haha why would you want to plant the rear wheels down to the pavement more when it's the front wheels planting the power?

 

[nowayout]

proper wind tunnel testing/ design then ti worth some money. There right it work on rear wheel drive car.
Front wheel drive it add weight for know reason.


Lue

 

[focusedrage]

hmm, whel i got an awd, and all must admit that in a awd car, the engine puts a lot more wight over the front wheels and so a liitle down force probly wont hurt, im jut wondering weather or not thoes spoilers i mentioned will provade downforce

thatnks for the repllys, sorry bout the spellin

 

[UndergroundR32]

Being that the force is distributed fairly evenly (60/40.. I think?) It shouldn't really make much of a difference. (listen to me, I own an AWD and I cant even give specific's )

 

[BryanK]

welp... unfortunately I bought my car with a wing (not exactly my style) and I can tell you there is a slight difference. Really not even worth mentioning... unless you're going 90+, then you can feel it plant a little more. If everyday cruising consists of speeds over or around 90, than you'll see a little benefit. If you're wanting one cheap, I'm trying to unload mine. Shoot me a PM if you're interested and I'll mail you a few pics.
Bryan

 

[SetH]

spoilers don't really help on any car unless ur going over 70. I love the vans and trucks with spoilers...

 

[UndergroundR32]

Yeah I would think that was we came to the conclusion that it's only really affective at high speeds. For a street driven car It's basically a waste of money.

 

[mike9146]

...And if they do provide any downforce, they would also provide drag. If you would like less high speed acceleration and worse gas mileage, go buy a bling bling wing. 99.9% of the "Big Wingers" I see haven't even come close to maxing out the mechanical grip of their current setup, and you're going to gain a lot more cornering power with better suspension then you are with a wing. DSM's aren't F1 cars...

Mike C.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Your stock spoiler is fine. No need to spend $300 on some piece of crap that does you no good and makes your car look stupid.

 

[UndergroundR32]

Originally posted by mike9146
...And if they do provide any downforce, they would also provide drag. If you would like less high speed acceleration and worse gas mileage, go buy a bling bling wing. 99.9% of the "Big Wingers" I see haven't even come close to maxing out the mechanical grip of their current setup, and you're going to gain a lot more cornering power with better suspension then you are with a wing. DSM's aren't F1 cars...

Mike C.

when you have a fair amount of torque, the drag wont even be noticable. Less high speed accelaration and worse gas miliage? I hope you are joking. "99.9% of the "Big Wingers" I see haven't even come close to maxing out the mechanical grip" No one said they would max it out, or would expect it to. And you talk about it like it's in place of a wing "you're going to gain a lot more cornering power with better suspension then you are with a wing. DSM's aren't F1 cars.." Dont get agravated because they are so popular to see on rice.

 

[UndergroundR32]

Originally posted by BatmanGSX
Your stock spoiler is fine. No need to spend $300 on some piece of crap that does you no good and makes your car look stupid.

look at the bright side. If you drive off a cliff you'll coast safely to the bottom.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Drag won't be noticeable? Guys have picked up 1-2mph in the 1/4th by ditching the 1G wing and that's a subtle wing.

 

[UndergroundR32]

I don't see any point in having a spoiler on a drag car. Not an AWD anyway.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Some drag cars need them if the back end is all over the place. Yes, even FWDs.

 

[UndergroundR32]

Wheelie bars would help for that also. That wouldn't affect the aerodynamics of the car.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by UndergroundR32
Wheelie bars would help for that also. That wouldn't affect the aerodynamics of the car.

How would wheelie bars help the car from sliding from side to side? Your posts make no sense I have no idea where you are coming from.

 

[UndergroundR32]

Then what's the point of having wheelie bars on a FWD car?

 

[BatmanGSX]

Traction! Cars have a natural tendency to lift the front end up when they are accelerating hard. On a FWD this reduces traction so they put the wheely bars on to limit the amount the front and can go up by limiting the amount the back end can go down.

Is this not common knowledge?

 

[UndergroundR32]

So what are you talking about when you say drag cars need them to keep the back of the car from going all over the place? Since the spoiler works off of air pushing against it then it's not going to have much affect on the FWD launch, yes? Then unless you are pushing an 11/10 second car then it's not going to make much of a difference on keeping the car rear straight, especially an AWD or FWD. Right?

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by UndergroundR32
So what are you talking about when you say drag cars need them to keep the back of the car from going all over the place?

I'm talking about SIDE TO SIDE movement because the car is going so fast it is actually taking off and you lose control. So you add a wing to make the car stay down. Are you blind or do you just not read good? And no, I'm not talking about an 11/10 second car, I'm talking about a 9/8/7 second car.

You said a wing on a FWD car is pointless. And to address that further: That's a pretty fu@king ignorant statement considering most of the fastest FWD cars in the nation have huge wings. I guess you would know better than them though, right?

 

[UndergroundR32]

Buddy would you shut up and relax. I made a stupid statement about the wheelie bars which I didn't really think about before posting and you're on my ass about this. Keeps the car from going side to side yeah no kidding. How is it going to help on the launch? And I doubt many people here have cars going sideways in 2nd and 3rd gear. Oh and who the hell who writes on this web board has a 9/8/7 second car!? 1 or 2 people? You need to relax.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Who said wings help on the launch?

 

[UndergroundR32]

Who cares if they keep your ass from movin around when few here are puttin down enough power to go sideways in anything other than 1st?