Agp L2r??

[AJs'97GS-T]

HEllo: I am in the process of looking for a turbo upgrade and came across this turbo AGP L2R!! This thing is a beast from what the description is about it. My question is this, would a FWD GS-T handle this turbo with minimal traction problems? It is rated for I think 500hp but I won't get there , realistically looking at about 350-400hp. The turbo description from the website says this turbo will spool at @3700-3800rpm with minimal mods and 3500-3600 with full engine mods. That is too soon for a FWD? Will I be able to harness this turbo or will the trmendous quick spool of this turbo be my downfall? I have full bolt-ons with SBR stg1 Engine 6 bolt: block(wiseco pistons) head (ss valves/ 1st gen cams), I will have a full coilover suspension system (TEIN/JIC), w/Suspension Bushings. Will this turbo be a realistic option for me or not? If this turbo is not for me looking at a T3/T04E next People tell me that is the turbo upgrade for me, right amount of lag with incredible pull and unlimited HP potential. But I forgot to mention the website said the AGP L2R is the greatest turbo for DSM's looking for the total package for decent price so I am confused?? Please help looking for people who have this turbo and their experiences.

 

[GSntncT]

Well, the L2R does give the appearance of a great turbo, but a guy sho used to frequent this site often(LarryD) Took it on a dyno and said was was unimpressed with the output on pump gas. I see you are FWD. BB turbos are great for quick spoolup and all, however, if you don't have a LSD, it won't do you much good. If I were you, I'd seriously look into the 50-56 trim turbos from PTE. Great price (995$, ExtremePSI even throws in a kit with it) More potential, and just a better all-around turbo from what I can see. that the one I'm going with. I'm not trying to tell you not to get the L2R, just showin ya that there are others out there too.

 

[Rick@AP]

If your going to spend that kind of money for a turbo, I would look at a FP 3052 or Forced Performance turbos. If you have the supporting mods, it seems to be one hard hitting turbo.

Or as GSntncT stated, look at one of the PTE 50 trim turbos which I think are a great value.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by Rick@AP
If your going to spend that kind of money for a turbo, I would look at a FP 3052 or Forced Performance turbos. If you have the supporting mods, it seems to be one hard hitting turbo.

Rick may be on to something, the FP3052 *may* prove to be the pump gas ball bearing turbo of choice, time will tell.

 

[bigfoot]

AGP stopped making the LR2. FP stopped making the 3055 which used the same compressor wheel. The good news is the newer turbo technology is awsome. The bad news is, last years turbos are old. I agree with the others that a PTE 50 trim or a FP Green would be great for a FWD. The 3052 is new so no customer reviews are out yet, but I'll bet that it's a bit much for a limited traction car.

 

[Dieselboy]

Originally posted by jdmawd
Rick may be on to something, the FP3052 *may* prove to be the pump gas ball bearing turbo of choice, time will tell.

Enough time already, give us our review

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by Dieselboy
Enough time already, give us our review

i have no welding skills or tools. As soon as extreme or my buddy at ELD gets a open lift, the car will be done

 

[AJs'97GS-T]

Originally posted by jdmawd
Rick may be on to something, the FP3052 *may* prove to be the pump gas ball bearing turbo of choice, time will tell.

Hey thanks all for the input, I will be going with Forced Performance turbo- Green.

 

[Rick@AP]

Why would you go green? Its more expensive than the FP3052 and it doesn't flow as well. The green is a hybrid that worked well for what it is, but I think even FP will even tell you that going to the FP3052 would be a better choice.

 

[bigfoot]

He's FWD. The Green spools slower, but has still made 460WHP.

 

[Rick@AP]

Yeah, but he's about to pay more for older technology when he can have the NEW Garrett cartridge design and ball bearings as well for less money. If he needs slower spool by a good boost controller. There are dual stage and three stage manual ones along with boost by rpm or gear electronic ones.

Spend your money wisely, talk to the guys at FP before being dead set on a Green.

 

[AJs'97GS-T]

Originally posted by Rick@AP
Yeah, but he's about to pay more for older technology when he can have the NEW Garrett cartridge design and ball bearings as well for less money. If he needs slower spool by a good boost controller. There are dual stage and three stage manual ones along with boost by rpm or gear electronic ones.

Spend your money wisely, talk to the guys at FP before being dead set on a Green.

OK now i'm CONFUSED do you really think that i can harness the power capability of the fp3052 which i think is rated for 50hp more max then the fp green, but since its baal bearing is gonna spool alot faster. Even with a LSD i dont think my car is gonna be able to productively use that much power. But i do like that whole set-up its bad ass, maybe i will but i just don't want to get good times with slicks only i want to be able to get good times with street tires also, you know. I will be mostly on street tires except for the weekends and occasional "Walking" . I think i will hold off until JDM gets back with his results of his Fp3052.

 

[Rick@AP]

Personally I think you will be ok with the 3052, especially with a good boost controller, but like I said talk to FP since they can give you more real world experience about there turbos than any of us currently can.

Also, check out the Parts Talk section of DSMTalk. There is an ongoing discussion regarding the 3052.

 

[GSntncT]

Originally posted by Rick@AP
Personally I think you will be ok with the 3052, especially with a good boost controller,

A two-stage boost controller that is.......

 

[sunflashx]

Originally posted by AJs'97GS-T
but since its baal bearing is gonna spool alot faster.

It will respool between shifts faster, but the boost threshhold is not significantly lower than a comporable standard bearing turbo.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by sunflashx
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Thanks for not accepting that cod package when it gets back to Maryland ill hand deliver it to your house this time.

See you soon.

 

[sunflashx]

I told you how much I was willing to pay. It's not my fault you decided to send it for whatever amount you felt like and hoped I'd just take it anyway.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by sunflashx
I told you how much I was willing to pay. It's not my fault you decided to send it for whatever amount you felt like and hoped I'd just take it anyway.

Dont even worry about it most people understand that shipping is not free i even absorbed the COD charge. No worries I have the situation under control. Im glad i live in a world where 9 bucks does not change my life see you soon.


:laugh: 9 bucks this shit is amazing. the dsm community at its finest

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[sunflashx]

$9? Try $20 on a $100 purchase. $20 is nothing, people trying to work me is what pisses me off. I'd rather buy new for twice as much then let someone get away with jerking me around.

 

[Dieselboy]

Well, if you can afford a 3052, I guess you MAY be able to cover a $9 fee

But seriously, people wonder why no one accepts COD anymore. It's because when the package arrives, they decide at the last minute they dont want to pay

 

[sunflashx]

Originally posted by Dieselboy


Well, if you can afford a 3052, I guess you MAY be able to cover a $9 fee

But seriously, people wonder why no one accepts COD anymore. It's because when the package arrives, they decide at the last minute they dont want to pay

I offered Paypal up front. He declined. Guess it's hard to try and work people for extra money when they can still negotiate the price. Instead of "It's shipped, this is how much it will be. Can't be changed now".

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by sunflashx
$9? Try $20 on a $100 purchase. $20 is nothing, people trying to work me is what pisses me off. I'd rather buy new for twice as much then let someone get away with jerking me around.

Dude dont worry about it im not paying your shipping. the total shipping charges made the total cod amount 119.58. $19.58 is nothing to me. lets see a $200 intake+ a $40 intake filter for 119.58 and you are bitching. bwhahahahahaha:laugh:

 

[Dieselboy]

sunflashx: Dude, if your the person who bought Ananda's Buschur CAI, I really wouldnt jive at it that much. That intake brand new is like $225 w/o a filter (I believe). Hell I bought one a week before he even posted his up and I paid $150 for the same intake with a bent and been to hell filter. Regardless, it is still a good deal and Ananda wouldnt be the one to rip you off on here. He has a pretty good rep on here and is a regular.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by sunflashx
I offered Paypal up front. He declined. Guess it's hard to try and work people for extra money when they can still negotiate the price. Instead of "It's shipped, this is how much it will be. Can't be changed now".

bwhahha those were all UPS chargers genious :laugh:$20 will not break me sport. you live in one serious delusion if you think im going to pay your shipping charges.

 

[white92talontsi]

I went with the PTE SCM 61 56 trim. this turbo will supprt up too 600 hp. Will spool in the 4k range and hit very hard when it spools. I paid 800 for mine externally gated, very bangin deal, looks great.
Here's a link to the pte turbo's from turbo time http://www.turbotime.us/html/store/products_dsm_turbos.htm