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Defcon95tsi

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ok so i bought a 1995 :talon: talon tsi awd... 20k on new engine , 130k on body... anywho heres my question... Everyone posts and asks about crank walk , my question is: Has anyone tried an aftermarket crank and new bearings? I mean im new to this engine so i dont really know , but if that will stop it the first thing i wll do to my new dsm is tear that mofo apart and replace the crank , sure the eagle crank is like $750...but if i never have to rebuild the bottom end again isnt it worth it? , just wondering thanks -Dale
 
i dont know about that but swap to a six bolt like everyoen else.
 
well considering no one really knows what causes crankwalks, and that they are only theories, no one knows if that would work. you can slap that $750 crank and new bearings in your 7bolt with an ACT2600 and walk in 10K miles... even 6 bolts (albeit very rarely) crankwalk... hell even chevys, fords, hondas, ANY car can get crankwalk... it's not limited to 2g 7bolt DSMs only.
 
Hi, i seriously have a real theory for CW....
my theory is you will get CW depending on how you drove the car the first 5k miles or so on the stock clutch, most people who had aftermarket clutchesin the first 3000 miles Never experience CW...
Thats my theory... hasnt been proven wrong yet.
 
CW has been said to be caused by a number of things. Magnus alludes to the oil squirters on the 2G's being inefficient, some think the lighter and less expensive rotation assembly on the 2G's is the culprit, and still others think that when mitsubishi started making the cars in Illinois instead of Japan, that they were made cheaper and with less precision. I've even heard of the culprit as being the hydrolic pressure that keeps the clutch slightly engaged so that you get a more smooth and consistent clutch feel. Who knows. Bottom line, the only thing proven to eliminate CW is to swap in a 6 bolt built by someone who knows what the f*ck they're doing.
BryanK
 
CW is way overrated, when I bought my car few years ago and before I even knew what 16G turbo was I had my engine rebuilt by completely clueless people I've known (I didn't at the time) and it never crankwalked on me after I put in ACT clutch. I think it all depends on how you assemble rotating assembly, break in the engine and make sure you prime your oil pump so you have oil in the bearings before you first crank over with clutch in.
 
Originally posted by theTuner
Hi, i seriously have a real theory for CW....
my theory is you will get CW depending on how you drove the car the first 5k miles or so on the stock clutch, most people who had aftermarket clutchesin the first 3000 miles Never experience CW...
Thats my theory... hasnt been proven wrong yet.
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Where did you find the data to support this? It might be interesting to look at.
 
Try voodoo....people have gone to CRAZY lengths to stop CW, and still got it.
 
Originally posted by Tallen
Try voodoo....people have gone to CRAZY lengths to stop CW, and still got it.
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Hmmnnn, a little rooster blood on the thrust bearing .... Probably as good as anything else.;)
 
Originally posted by rdrkt

People with stock clutches have suffered from crankwalk....
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He said people who have aftermarket clutches typically don't get crankwalk.
 
Originally posted by Aikouka


He said people who have aftermarket clutches typically don't get crankwalk.
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True. Yet, according to his "theory," if the engine started out life (first 5000 miles) with the stock clutch, then as long as the stock clutch is always used you should NEVER get crankwalk...:rolleyes:
 
I don't know that you guys are talking about here...

Everyone knows that CW is caused by evil dwarfs. Ever take an oil pan off to find a bunch of small metal pieces that you have no idea on where they came from ?

Well, the anser is Dwarfs! They sharpen their axes on your crank, but sometimes their axes get 'sucked' into a bearing, that's when you C-walk !

This theory hasn't been proven wrong yet !

Psss.... Haven't you guys learn anything ?
:D

BTW, the reason #4 cylinder runs leanest is because dwarfs bleed-off some of the fuel destined for that cylinder to wash off oil stains from their clothing, which they get after hanging out in the crank case to sharpen their axes! :D
 
Originally posted by Newlogics
I don't know that you guys are talking about here...

Everyone knows that CW is caused by evil dwarfs. Ever take an oil pan off to find a bunch of small metal pieces that you have no idea on where they came from ?

Well, the anser is Dwarfs! They sharpen their axes on your crank, but sometimes their axes get 'sucked' into a bearing, that's when you C-walk !

This theaory hasn't been proven wrong yet !

Psss.... Haven't you guys learn anything ?
:D

BTW, the reason #4 cylinder runs leanest is because dwarfs bleed-off some of the fuel destined for that cylinder to wash off oil stains from their clothing, which they get after hanging out in the crank case to sharpen their axes! :D
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OK, Mr. KnowItAll, then how does the Rooster blood/Voodoo thing work? Are the dwarfs afraid of it or something? I smell BS here. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by jpolizo


OK, Mr. KnowItAll, then how does the Rooster blood/Voodoo thing work? Are the dwarfs afraid of it or something? I smell BS here. :rolleyes:
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pshhhhhh..

I guess I have to explain it ....

First, some history:

Evil Dwarfs were initially developed by secret Mitsubishi's bio-genetic labs. Their purpose was to create engine problems from the inside to raise maintanance costs. However, the experiment got out of hand and was scrapped. Millions of cloned dwarfs escaped and hid everywhere in the Illinois plant.
They mostly inhibit 4G63 engines, as it seems to be their favorite spot to breed. Their presence can usually be detected by following symptoms:

* Tools falling into the engine bay to never be found again. (Dwarfs make their axes from them by sharpening them on the crank)
* Phantom knock (if dwarfs end up building a blacksmith hut in your block)
* On 1Gs, your windshield wiper switches on at hard launches (Because it becomes havier then stock with all the dwarfs.)
* Lifter tick (This phenomena is atributed to dwarfs using lifters as their toilets and clogging up oil passages.
* Spun bearings (Obviously 'spin-a-bearing' is a popular game among them)

Those are just some reasons. I'm sure many of you can add more.

Now, as to why rooster blood works:
When spilled on a bearing, it makes it red. Dwarfs can only see in Black and White, so red is identical to black in their view. They simply don't see it in the dark.

Voodoo doesn't work, we're in some sort of magic movie here, it's all pure physics and gentics.

Any other questions ?
 
ohhh that would explain why I know of several cases including my own of the oil filter backing off.. so it really wasn't the shops fault, The dwarfs did it. those bastards.
 
How the Evolution engines??? They are 7 bolt and they have never crankwalked... I tried asking the ### tuners like HKS, CyberEVO and JUN; they claimed 6bolt 4G63 sucks and is the weakest.
Can anyone tell me what's the difference in our engines and those JDM superior EVO one??
 
mobile 1 15-50 synthetic

disconnect clutch sensor so you can start the car without stepping on the clutch

3k oil changes



i think one of those might help. especially the heavier oil, if the problem is indeed the oil squirters then you want the best thickest oil you can spray.. 10w 30 is GARBAGE when the car gets hot, oil pressure gets REALLY low.
 
man that evil dwarf shit is pretty funny hahahaha
but seriously no1 has proven my theory wrong yet....
Isn't there any original owners out there that can honestly tell me they babied their car the first 3k miles .... then not totally abused the #### outa their car annd still got CW?

btw, im still on my 7bolt... with almost No thrust movement...

knock on wood, i hope i dont get CW... but im honestly not afriad knowing the way i drive.
 
Originally posted by Defcon95tsi
Has anyone tried an aftermarket crank and new bearings?
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Yeah, just head on down to Phred's Phast Phun Shack and gitcha one of them aftermarket cranks. Tell them you want the one with cuffs.

And rooster blood only works if it's from a virgin, and all those lousy cocks lie about it.
 
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