Shielded Air Filter For Cold Air Application

[jdmawd]

what do you guys think, my main concern is that it maybe a flow restriction. my idea was to attach a length of dryer duct to the head of this filter, and stick it in the lower fog light cavity. i wanted something that would not suck dirt and other crap from under the car. this is as close to cold air, and ram air that i could come up with. the filter i got is black not rice red like in this picture?

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[L2RTSiAWD]

I have seen pics of the dryer duct ait intake before. It should work.

Later,

 

[DMS-WhiteGSX]

instead of the whole dryer duct.. why dont you just do this..

get a hole saw, or something and take off your whole intake. where the air filter sits there right underneath it there is a flat peice of metal.. take the holesaw or whatever you are using and cut it out.. it should suck enough air in there to make a difference, and make a box or a cover out of sheet metal and put it over your intake.. this is what my buddy did and it works very well.

 

[larryd]

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this is what i intend to do eventually..

 

[EuroGSTSpyder]

where is the filter?Is it attached to the hose down at the front or what?

 

[jdmawd]

sorry guys i was not completely clear on what i am doing. i already have the buschur *cold air system* it looks like this

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this kit routes the filter threw the bottom of the frame, and places the filter behind the fog light (which i will be removing). i want to substitute the open filter with the one i posted above. then attach a piece of dryer duck to the shielded filter above, which will be routed into the fog light cavity in place of the fog light. just like this *PIC BELOW*but instead of the filter sitting here it will be a piece dryer duct.

 

[larryd]

Originally posted by EuroGSTSpyder
where is the filter?Is it attached to the hose down at the front or what?

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Im wondering if he's had any problems with it or getting readings from the MAP with the filter not right up on it.. looks promising though, a real 2g cold air intake.. should be a decent gain

 

[EuroGSTSpyder]

You dontthink there will be any water issues if you pit the filter that far down and open with no shields to stop water from being pushed in?

 

[jdmawd]

please re-read my last post. there is a filter there it will be this one.

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all im doing is adding a piece of dryer duct to the front of it. if it rains i can just disconnect the whole system from the turbo to get home.

 

[larryd]

jdmawd..i would honestly stay away from the Ractive type filters. I know it looks cool an essentially it makes sense what it does BUT all filters do NOT flow air the same.. youd be suprised how much of a difference one type of Filter makes over another. I played around with a K&N demo thing at Carlisle this year and i was shocked at how much better K&N flows then most other companies..

EuroGSTSpyder..I drove around for almost 2 years with a Cold air Intake on my Celica which sat about 6" off the ground and never had any issues with hydrolock.. infact 90% of the site members have Cold air intakes and Ive only once ever heard of anyone having hydrolock issues with an intake..

 

[EuroGSTSpyder]

Ok ok..I was just asking...

 

[larryd]

yeah, i know its scary when your driving in heavy rain becuase you always have that thought of what if?? but unless its like a monsoon or your driving through heavily flooded areas youd eb fine.. that and the filter wouldnt be nearly as low.. my main concern with this is just getting the filter out of the engine bay, imagine the heatsoak that filter must be getting from the turbo

 

[EuroGSTSpyder]

I had this idea for my Spyder..I am gonna do a FMIC on it..and then I would put the airfilter in the intake for the SMIC instead..there is plenty of room..and it will be asy to get a hose down to it since the IC pipings will not be there.how does that sound?Could be a good CAI

 

[larryd]

makes sense.. i cant use that hole though, i have piping for the Greddy in there.. infact there aint much room for a filter there becuase of the piping.. I want to take a look at it later..

 

[EuroGSTSpyder]

Well my piping will be custom made so I am getting it to leave some room..Need to cut up some more space in the plate though..But thats life when modding?*S*

 

[kilurv8]

http://www.pbase.com/image/328380

This is what I did on my 2G. Kinda like what you are thinking. Works well for me especially at night. I think I felt an increase in power but no real way to tell.

 

[Formz]

that ractive filter is VERY small. I suggest staying away from it since we are turbo cars and need lots of air. With my drop in k&n and no air filter housing, I'm seeing inlet temps at 100°, which isnt bad at all. And there is no ducting or whatever to draw in air from the outside. I think the most drop you'll see is maybe 10°.

 

[jdmawd]

The ractive filter is NOT small and uses a k&N element, (I have it in my had right now) you said you show 100* that number means nothing because its before the turbo and intercooler. what do you base the 10* drop on? I seriously doubt that collecting air from out side the car well only yield a 10* drop form 100* what was the outside air temp when you got the 100* intake reading?

 

[larryd]

i know with my Celica we did a log on it back in the day vs my friends Celica with a short ram intake instead and my intake temperature was like 70 and he was like 95.. big difference

 

[Formz]

ambient temp was uh.. around 70-75 I think. And unless those ractive filters jumped in size they are really small. I used to sell those things all the time. Its about half the size of the drop in k&n.

 

[jdmawd]

The ractive filter is much larger than the 3" diameter of the intake tubing. The intake cannot suck a larger volume of air than the diameter of the tubing. The filter can be the size of a water melon. it makes no difference, as long as the element can provide good flow, and is of the correct shape to straighten air flow threw the filter. however im gad to know that you sold lots of them, thats very helpful.

 

[Formz]

they must of redisigned them. When I sold em, they were about 5 inches long with an inlet of about 2.5 inches. The filter was really small inside the "shield." I hope they did make them bigger cause I always thought they had a decent idea

 

[Lord Khan]

Be careful with those low to the ground cold-air setups guys. My brothers Civic hydrolocked back in October when we had a hard rain here in Baltimore. He was driving and noticed there was a portion of the road he was on with a bit of standing water that he thought was a low puddle, but as he came up closer on it, he noticed how deep it was at the last second and tried to swurve around it, but he went right through it, and his car stalled out. He tried starting it, and it tried to turn over but wouldn't. We tried to get it started a few days later, but one of the pistons was locked up, and after my one mechanic friend said f*** it and pushed the car in neutral to try to break the piston loose, we finally freed it up, but something was rattling around in the engine and crashed into the oil pan, and the car began to bleed black death all over the parking lot the car was in.

He has an AEM Cold Air intake which I had kind of regretted recommending he get, but he said he has no regrets of getting it anyway. Luckily, a JDM engine for his car is only $600 bucks (94' Civic 4-door), so he already has had the engine replaced.

I still like Cold Air Intakes, as I also recommended the INJEN in my girlfriends 3G Eclipse 6cyl, but you have to use caution when in heavy rain. Just a word of advice. BTW, nice setup on that intake pipe for the turbo, I think I'm going to do that as well, but I'm going to keep mine short so it can't hit water.


Edit: Damn, I didn't realize how old this thread was. Nevermind.