New to automatics

1glaserturbo · 05-28-2008, 10:53 AM

Hey everyone, not new at all to DSMs but very new to the automatic aspect of them. I'm currently swapping my rebuilt stage III shepherd manual transmission out for an auto and would like some input and possibly help.

First off, how much fluid do I need to fully fill the stall and transmission? Do I fill the converter all the way and then slide it onto the input shaft or do I just put it on, install the transmission, bolt it down, axles, and then fill with fluid?

Any help would be great!

HighPSI TSi Guy · 05-28-2008, 11:05 AM

Depends on the setup but it will take 6-10 qts depending on the setup. When you fire it up, run it through all the gears while holding the car still, letting it sit in each position breifly, that way it makes sure fluid fills all the passages it's supposed to and gets properly circulated, then check the level before driving it.

1glaserturbo · 05-28-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HighPSI TSi Guy

Depends on the setup but it will take 6-10 qts depending on the setup. When you fire it up, run it through all the gears while holding the car still, letting it sit in each position breifly, that way it makes sure fluid fills all the passages it's supposed to and gets properly circulated, then check the level before driving it.

Awesome, thank you!

Should I fill the converter up a little bit before I slide it onto the input shaft though?

BoostedTalonTS · 05-28-2008, 11:37 AM

I partially filled mine restalled TC (per John @ IPT) before I installed it on the the tranny... IIRC it'll take almost a quart of ATF, just pour it in slowly as the TC need to burp as it is being filled with AFT.
For more good DSM AT info be sure to check out IPT... Those guys are AWESOME when it comes to these things! -They also have an online forums as well.

IPT Performance Transmissions Torque Converters and Transmission Parts for Ford, GM, Chrysler, and Import vehicles

IIRC, I used 10 quarts for the TC, AT trans, and AT cooler install... I remember buying 12 quarts but I didn't need all of them. -I am using one of the BIGGEST AT coolers (Fluidyne) that I could find though

1glaserturbo · 05-28-2008, 11:50 AM

Also, how is the cooler hooked up? I know there are the two ports on the transmission and then two on the cooler, but which goes to which? Thanks for everything guys!

BoostedTalonTS · 05-28-2008, 11:54 AM

I found this a while back...

1glaserturbo · 05-28-2008, 12:04 PM

Nice! Now does the feed line on the cooler go on top, or bottom?

Like if I mounted this unit sideways where the ports were on the side...

scottr126 · 06-06-2008, 12:31 AM

You want to have the ports either on the top or the side. Never on the bottom as you will get air trapped in the cooler.

As for trans choice. Go with IPT, they build some bad ass transmissions.

1glaserturbo · 07-07-2008, 09:11 PM

So what you're saying is it doesn't matter which line goes to which as long as I have the cooler mounted sideways with the ports sideways? I gotcha, thanks!

Car Cannibal · 07-08-2008, 12:12 AM

If you go with the inlets horizontal, you need to feed the bottom one and exit the top one.
Since you are a 1G non lockup, go with two tranny coolers.

If you are installing a stock 1G auto trans/converter you are stepping down from your manual trans concerning performance.

Defiant · 07-08-2008, 03:29 AM

An oil cooler will purge itself of any air inside, regardless of orientation. One less thing to worry about.

1glaserturbo · 07-17-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Car Cannibal

If you go with the inlets horizontal, you need to feed the bottom one and exit the top one.
Since you are a 1G non lockup, go with two tranny coolers.

If you are installing a stock 1G auto trans/converter you are stepping down from your manual trans concerning performance.

It's not a stock 1g trans, and the coverter is a restall (albeit low it's going to be fine for now)