Vortex Generator for a 2G

[RedTurboEclipse]

Hideki, do you have full car shots with them on.

[cotsi95]

I like them i think im gonna buy them...for 25 bucks u cant really beat the price!

[Hideki]

I'll put a pic up tomorrow (it's dark outside right now) but they actually dont look half bad. You can barely notice them when you're at a distance, and the car looks absolutely spartan with them. I'd only install them if you're going for the whole "look at me, I'm a baby EVO" thing. I also call them "cop magnets"

[RedTurboEclipse]

Yea it might change people's opinion on it with a pic of the entire car.

[Hideki]

[Rice Over Wheat]

I don't get how you think a 2G looks anything remotely like an evo?

[RedTurboEclipse]

It doesn't look too bad. Definitely makes your car different, esp in the world of DSMs where stock look is preferred.

But yea, 2g, esp 2gb does not look anything like an EVO.. its like comparing a SQUARE and a CIRCLE.

[1stGenRocks]

i wonder how it would look on a wingless 2g. probably be a bit more effective too.

[TrboANTsi]

i think he was just referring to the fact that he has the vortex gen. on his eclipse and the evo or evo style enkei rims on it..which i was gonna say too..

[Rice Over Wheat]

Looks like a cheese grater.

[92BoostedDSM]

i wouldn't put them on my car but to each his own.

[Dragon TalonTsi]

I am taking some pics on a 2gb talon, on my 98 of course... I still have the 2 tone paint job, and the main color is Indy Red, so yeah, it looks sleek and glossy... I will take some pics tomorrow, full and angled shots, that way, you can see how they look on a Talon as well...

[ibrkalot]

Originally Posted by Hideki

Sexy, plain and simple. Nice to see a DSM that isnt stock, but isnt overdone.

[gsxeclipse97]

Well I have been doing a little reasearch on these and I thought that i would get a second opinion on these. There are really cheap so if they didn't work i wouldn't be a big loss. According to this it says that they decrease drag on our car and improve gas mileage because of the decreased drag. I know that these come on the evo MR's to help keep the car stiff at high speed and provide more down force on the rear spoiler. I know our spoliers on are cars are just for looks and provide very little if any down force at all. But do you think that it would help any. Also the way that they are showing you put them on is at an angle in the middle and straight towards the ends. The evos are straight all the way across so why would you put them on differently?

http://www.manufacturersdepot.com/Pr...0A6-1180622063

I know that the drag on the reap bumper is also really bad since the air comes up and runs right into it so I was looking into a rear diffuser but i haven't found anyone that makes them for our cars with out changing the rear bumper

[EVOL_TURBO]

I read something before that stated our cars (2g's) are very well designed aerodynamically and had very little drag.

Sorry, I'm trying to recall where I read that so I can quote it.

[roadrunner2176]

The eclipse talons from 90 - 99 had a drag coefficient from .29 - .34. Only differences were from the side skirts and high rise spoiler.

For a little research about testing drag coefficient http://autospeed.drive.com.au/A_108656/cms/article.html.

Vortex generators on hatchback or liftback cars are non functional. Comes down to personal prefenerce, you like them, put them on.

[gsxeclipse97]

wow thats great to know but the tall spoiler does chang how the car drives quite a bit. When i had my rs i put a tall spoiler on there and there was a noticeable difference in how the car felt at higher speeds.

[DGajre777]

Originally Posted by gsxeclipse97

I know our spoliers on are cars are just for looks and provide very little if any down force at all.

I've heard that the Talon high rise 97-98 spoiler is more effective in creating downforce than the 2G Eclipse spoiler.

[GloriousDSM]

Originally Posted by EVOL_TURBO

I read something before that stated our cars (2g's) are very well designed aerodynamically and had very little drag.

Sorry, I'm trying to recall where I read that so I can quote it.

dsmtuners.com lol

[JFZERO ECLIPSE]

Any idea how someone would start undertraying their car?
A good while ago I remember seeing a car with multiple steel plates under it, if thats what you mean. Not exactly sure how thick they were though. Looked very clean and no worries from rocks or road debris getting up in the cracks or whatever...Just hate to know how much weight was added from the plates...

Originally Posted by leet

Don't really care for how they look on a DSM. Plus the fact that they aren't really needed on them.

As stated before, fastback style cars do not suffer from the aerodynamic deficiency of having a large low pressure area immediately following the roof (where the rear window glass is). Theirs are behind the car, where the trunk lid ends. Your non-functional 2G basket wing is getting all the air it needs already.

Now, if you want to get crazy with aerodynamics, undertray your car and notice a drastic improvement at high speed.

[Defiant]

Drop on a front skirt, push the air to the sides, and don't worry about the underside. You're not getting payoff out of it until over 50 anyway, which is probably about 15% of your driving.
Both 1G and 2G DSMs were amongst the lowest Cx of any production car when they were current. They've seldom been surpassed.
The rear wing or toenail makes no difference. What you think you feel with a hoop is merely thought.
Vortex generators will only look like they do, whether you believe they're cool or ghastly. Their effect will be trivial, and again, only over fifty mile an hour.