To RICE, or not to RICE that is the question

[Slow99x]

I would like to see what some of you in DSM land think about Show VS. Go. In my neck of the woods it is taboo to modify the exterior of your DSM past some clear bumper lenses and a painted center section of your tail lights. Rims are ok if they serve a perpose like being lighter for unsprung weight reduction but even a lowered car is a no-no. Now keep in mind that most of my friends and myself included drive 97-99 GSXs we see alot of 1g guys not even fixing rust spots and going all motor work. There was one guy who had a 96 GS-T but he changed over to a full 97-99 conversion witch is as drastic of an exterior mod we've seen. I just wanted to see how everyone else feels about this topic. Thanks.

 

[Airpoppoff]

i am in the process of changing mine over and i think it looks a hell of alot better now in the process, i personally think both shoul be a factor but not to extreme

 

[JohnWH]

IMO, It doesn't matter how fast your car is if it looks like isht. A car is seen more than it's raced.

 

[chrysler kid]

if i had a 1999 GSX i wouldnt be blowing money on body kits or a new paint job. I like the 97-99 eclipse good enough so i would mod the engine, cause the car already looks good. so if you have enough cash you could do both, but i would do performance first. And remember i'm not only the rice club, i am also the president

 

[Slow99x]

Originally posted by JohnWH
IMO, It doesn't matter how fast your car is if it looks like isht. A car is seen more than it's raced.

I don't think you understand the whole point of what these guys are trying to accomplish. Their cars are purpose built for money racing, so the less money you look like you have dropped into the car the better.
Here in Chicago the "free race" is becominng a thing of the past because it is too risky but lots of peole still line 'em up for cash.

 

[redeclipse97]

IMO, who gives a flying f*ck what people think about your car, you do what makes you happy...look at me, instead of being cool and putting a pic of my car in my sig, I put a picture of a zombie cause I like horror movies...I shouldn't matter what people think, you do what is visually apealling to yourself. If you do what everyone else is doing then you'll look like everyone else when the whole bassis of imports was origonally to be "different", so why would you want to be like everyone else. people give me sh!t for modding an RS, but you know what...I don't care, cause I love my car and I'm doing modifications to it that make me happy cause I don't give a sh!t what people think..

 

[nutshot]

It's true that each car is modded to personal satisfaction, and that's how it should be, but there are some boundaries. DO NOT buy a body-kit for cosmetic reasons, this is what our community has labeled 'rice', and we will strive towards eradicating ricers. DO NOT apply 'racing' stickers to the exterior of your vehicle for the same reason. A rusty car that runs faster than rice is awesome, and is more deserving of praise than an RS with lamorghini style doors. Keep it tasteful and we will change the industry, follow the pack and it will only get worse.

 

[chrysler kid]

Originally posted by nutshot
DO NOT buy a body-kit for cosmetic reasons, this is what our community has labeled 'rice', and we will strive towards eradicating ricers. DO NOT apply 'racing' stickers to the exterior of your vehicle for the same reason. A rusty car that runs faster than rice is awesome, and is more deserving of praise than an RS with lamorghini style doors.

HeY y0, d0nt Diss a BRothA !!!! :laugh:

 

[redeclipse97]

I hate chromed out mexi-ricers as much as anyone in here, but some people don't care about speed and would just rather have a "cosmetically" good looking car. I don't care where you live, you should be able to do what ever the hell you want free from ridicule. Now if you have a rediculously riced out non-turbo DSM and you run around thinking your the sh!t then you need to be slapped. I agree, things just need to be done tastefully but just cause one person cares about looks when all the rest care about speed is no reason to ridicule that one person. (as long as the car isn't mexi-riced)...catch my drift???

 

[JJay]

All I hear all the time is rice is bad and rice is stupid, but you all are not addressing the real issue. Everybody has personal choices and differences. A lot of people have cultural boundaries on this web page. I also think it depends on what part of the continental U.S.A. that you live in. First off I am African American and I went to a college of Art & Design. I have seen crazy white kids with punked out spiked hair and also Death to us all "Mega Goths" that look like rock star vampires with and attitude. So ....I have seen a lot of different types of people. I have seen really cool Asian kids with lots of money to blow on looks for a car and didn't give a sh*&$# about performance and I have seen caucasion americans....white boys that only care about just nothing, but performance.
I have been to Miami, Florida several times and seen Latino/spanish/Cuban or mexican americans with lowered Hondas and big rims and even plushed out velvet interiors. Bottom line is that we are all different culturally. Some Black guys that I know would never buy a DSM car because it would be considered a "White Boy" car, but it is just a car. Some guys I know would only get an SUV and put 20's, 22's, 24's or 26 inch rims on it, loud pipes and mega loud sound systems.
My definition of a "Ricer" is a person who puts stickers on their car and a Fast and Furious II wing and maybe a loud exhaust and pretends that their car is fast. My definition of a ricer is not anyone who put bodykits or wings on a car, but also trys to make it faster too. If you are a home super mechanic it is easier for you to make go fast modifications at will. Also if you have a lot of $$$$$ and are in an area where performance shops are abundant like in Florida or California than you are at a unfair advantage. Also if you already have a Turbo AWD DSM than you are fast and can of course become faster.
A lot of you guys here on this page I am sure are caucasion and have no black, or mexican or Latino friends of color. You are only around one type of american culture/subculture and you only understand one type of american culture. I think that you should broaden your horizons and respect that America is comprised of many different cultures and individuals. We all like different levels of embellishment/aesthetics and there is no one right way to do any import or domestic car. You do it the way that pleases you and F" all this rice Bullsh$#%
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOODNIGHT EVEN RICERS.

 

[BoostinDSM]

"to each his own"....if you like a "fancy show car" then go for it. If you like a stock looking car that's fast go for it. I think the word "rice" is used way too much. If you like body kits good for you, if you like big turbos good for you. It all comes down to personal preference. Although I have been wanting to change all my interior lights to blue LED's, I'm afraid to because of being labeled "rice" so I haven't yet. But I do agree with redeclipse that a real ricer has a really slow car but thinks they're the s***. I still like the look of show cars , but like the speed better.


PS redeclipse, that "zombie" is pretty creepy!!

 

[ZoomBy]

I AM NOT A RICER...

allthough i plan on getting a ground kit, big rims, take the orange out my lights, get altezzas, carbon fiber hood, roof scoop, big not oversized though wing, plan on dropping the car down a few inches, m3 style mirrors, a europlate, sparco racing seats, neons, and plan on adding stickers to my car, but im still not a ricer, im just the kid who wants my car to look nice, really i think the term rice was made "duragatory" from another kid who didnt have the money to make his car look nice, cuz really all that i plan to add to my car will cost more than a stage 5 hahn turbo kit by about 2x, get what im saying? rice is an attitude not a physicality

 

[redeclipse97]

Originally posted by ZoomBy
I AM NOT A RICER...

allthough i plan on getting a ground kit, big rims, take the orange out my lights, get altezzas, carbon fiber hood, roof scoop, big not oversized though wing, plan on dropping the car down a few inches, m3 style mirrors, a europlate, sparco racing seats, neons, and plan on adding stickers to my car, but im still not a ricer, im just the kid who wants my car to look nice, really i think the term rice was made "duragatory" from another kid who didnt have the money to make his car look nice, cuz really all that i plan to add to my car will cost more than a stage 5 hahn turbo kit by about 2x, get what im saying? rice is an attitude not a physicality

AMEN to that...couldn't have said it better myself

 

[JohnWH]

Originally posted by ZoomBy
I AM NOT A RICER...

allthough i plan on getting a ground kit, big rims, take the orange out my lights, get altezzas, carbon fiber hood, roof scoop, big not oversized though wing, plan on dropping the car down a few inches, m3 style mirrors, a europlate, sparco racing seats, neons, and plan on adding stickers to my car, but im still not a ricer, im just the kid who wants my car to look nice, really i think the term rice was made "duragatory" from another kid who didnt have the money to make his car look nice, cuz really all that i plan to add to my car will cost more than a stage 5 hahn turbo kit by about 2x, get what im saying? rice is an attitude not a physicality

If turbo kit was first on that list...you wouldn't be a ricer, buuuut........

 

[redeclipse97]

Originally posted by BoostinDSM
"to each his own"....if you like a "fancy show car" then go for it. If you like a stock looking car that's fast go for it. I think the word "rice" is used way too much. If you like body kits good for you, if you like big turbos good for you. It all comes down to personal preference. Although I have been wanting to change all my interior lights to blue LED's, I'm afraid to because of being labeled "rice" so I haven't yet. But I do agree with redeclipse that a real ricer has a really slow car but thinks they're the s***. I still like the look of show cars , but like the speed better.


PS redeclipse, that "zombie" is pretty creepy!!

thank you...BTW the zombie is from the movie "DAY OF THE DEAD"

 

[redeclipse97]

Originally posted by JJay
All I hear all the time is rice is bad and rice is stupid, but you all are not addressing the real issue. Everybody has personal choices and differences. A lot of people have cultural boundaries on this web page. I also think it depends on what part of the continental U.S.A. that you live in. First off I am African American and I went to a college of Art & Design. I have seen crazy white kids with punked out spiked hair and also Death to us all "Mega Goths" that look like rock star vampires with and attitude. So ....I have seen a lot of different types of people. I have seen really cool Asian kids with lots of money to blow on looks for a car and didn't give a sh*&$# about performance and I have seen caucasion americans....white boys that only care about just nothing, but performance.
I have been to Miami, Florida several times and seen Latino/spanish/Cuban or mexican americans with lowered Hondas and big rims and even plushed out velvet interiors. Bottom line is that we are all different culturally. Some Black guys that I know would never buy a DSM car because it would be considered a "White Boy" car, but it is just a car. Some guys I know would only get an SUV and put 20's, 22's, 24's or 26 inch rims on it, loud pipes and mega loud sound systems.
My definition of a "Ricer" is a person who puts stickers on their car and a Fast and Furious II wing and maybe a loud exhaust and pretends that their car is fast. My definition of a ricer is not anyone who put bodykits or wings on a car, but also trys to make it faster too. If you are a home super mechanic it is easier for you to make go fast modifications at will. Also if you have a lot of $$$$$ and are in an area where performance shops are abundant like in Florida or California than you are at a unfair advantage. Also if you already have a Turbo AWD DSM than you are fast and can of course become faster.
A lot of you guys here on this page I am sure are caucasion and have no black, or mexican or Latino friends of color. You are only around one type of american culture/subculture and you only understand one type of american culture. I think that you should broaden your horizons and respect that America is comprised of many different cultures and individuals. We all like different levels of embellishment/aesthetics and there is no one right way to do any import or domestic car. You do it the way that pleases you and F" all this rice Bullsh$#%
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOODNIGHT EVEN RICERS.

I still haven't bothered to read all of this yet

 

[redeclipse97]

Originally posted by JohnWH


If turbo kit was first on that list...you wouldn't be a ricer, buuuut........

Can you read??? He said he just wants his car to look good and I doubt he gives a f*ck what you think, so do us all a favor and keep your "ricer" opinions to yourself cause your the exact kind of person that we're talking about!!! Read this whole thread again cause you obviously don't get the point...

 

[JohnWH]

Originally posted by redeclipse97


Can you read??? He said he just wants his car to look good and I doubt he gives a f*ck what you think, so do us all a favor and keep your "ricer" opinions to yourself cause your the exact kind of person that we're talking about!!! Read this whole thread again cause you obviously don't get the point...

Calm down tough guy and go play with your "horror movies." :laugh:




I wasn't talking to you in the first place.

 

[Slow99x]

Well JJAY, I have to let you know that in our group of racers is a little bit of each culture, we have an Asian, Hispanic, African-American, and us spikey haired white boys. There are no body kits, chrome, or loud sterios on any of the cars. In short, your cultural difference theory has been debunked. Let me run down a list of the types of cars too:

Asian) 99 GSX that runs elevens on a FP Green turbo

Hispanic #1) 98 GSX with a 14B

Hispanic #2) 01 Nissan Maxima with a Vortec supercharger

African-American) Honda S2000 with a Vortec supercharger

White guy #1) 97 GSX that runs twelves on a 16g and 1g motor

White guy #2) Toyota Camry with a TRD supercharger and a baby seat

White guy #3) Nissan 300ZX with a JDM Fairlady motor swap

White guy #4 myself) 99 GSX with a broken clutch

 

[scorpion]

Well I just want to throw in my two cents on the subject...to me the term "rice" is for the kid who has the honda, still running the stock steel rims, has stickers for AEM, HKS, Greddy but yet buys all of his parts at autozone, has a coffe can for an exhaust, the cheap fiberglass body kit still unpainted on his car....yet at every stop light want's to race you and every other thing on the road. He'll even tell the story of how he beat a YZF-R1 once. If none of this applies to you than you are fine and not ricing it, and don't worry so much about what other people think of YOUR car.

 

[redeclipse97]

Damn straight...

 

[redeclipse97]

Originally posted by JohnWH


Calm down tough guy and go play with your "horror movies." :laugh:




I wasn't talking to you in the first place.

When you post on a thread you talk to everbody slick...

 

[JJay]

Slow99x in Chicago their is a multicultural community, but ask all the other guys in this thread or on this page if they have black, asian or hispanic "close" friends that they respect and treat as a equal. In your area of the continental U.S.A. maybe some integration is there, but no matter what you say the majority of DSM tuners on this webpage don't have your same experiences and they don't understand other cultures and that is one of the reasons they attack and will continue to attack rice.

I think we have established that a REAL RICER is someone who does not have a fast car, but pretends it is fast and has no desire to really make it fast. Pretending it is fast and being an ass about it talking sh@$#$ is what a REAL RICER is. What I am trying to say is different people in different areas of the world like different styles. If I like big wings and groundeffects I don't believe that is rice because I spent that money on aesthetics. It is simply put......my individual style and preference, but we have people saying that is "Rice" or a "Ricer" style. This is silly and juvenile. If you don't want to fix your engine up to be faster than you are not abnormal.......it is simply your preference and the end of this silly argument.
Slow99x you may not be a prejudice idiot and look down on other cultures or subcultures, but you don't make up the MAJORITY of everyone here in the U.S. or the majority of DSM Tuner members. I am glad that you are not like some of them and you feel strongly to tell me, but you cannot debunk my theory just based on you (one person) know some/have some minorities in your club. The point is most clubs are not like yours . If they are please feel free to list them and tell us about these multicultural import teams and friends you all have then. Slow99x trust me you are in rare company.
We do have differences between us culturally and regionally. Where I live I could drive the Green Eclipse from the FAST & FURIOUS everyday if I had it and wanted to without ridicule of being called a ricer, but if I lived where some of you guys do.....I am sure I could not. I live somewhere where you don't understand the people and what they will or will not approve of. It is a cultural difference I am sure. REDeclipse you should read what others say.... that is the point of posting right? I don't care if you agree with me, but you cannot tell me what I have seen personallyand experienced. I am a fair guy, but the world we all live in is not fair and that is just the way it is
To me the bottom line is some white boys, mexican boys, asian boys and black boys don't like bodykits and wings. That is okay, but if you do like it you should not be called rice. Hell a DSM car is basically a Mitsubishi Japanese car anyway and it in itself could be labeled rice by people who buy Domestic cars like Mustangs, Camaros and Trans Ams. A REAL Ricer is someone with a slow ass car with stickers, a wing, a loud muffler and has a ridiculous attitude that their car is fast. This is a ricer.
You can say it fifty million ways around but saying something is rice is a sublime racist statement, it is silly, juvenile and utterly ridiculous. If you like to fix your car up then you just like that style and thats it. In my book rice will never be just putting bodykits on by itself.

 

[redeclipse97]

Thats what I've been trying to say all along, when I say "mexi-riced" its just a way of me saying your same defenition of ricer...I totally agree that just because someone cares about cosmetics over speed dosen't make them a "ricer", if you scroll up you'll see what I mean, its what I've been saying this whole time. I think we can come to a conclusion that this topic will never be settled because we can spend the rest of our lives in this thread deffending our meaning of "ricer" and there will always be someone trying to tell us differently...people have their own tastes, i like looks while other people like speed, what f*cking difference does it make?...really. I'm not going into the extreme tuner forum telling all those guys that they suck cause they didn't fix the rust holes in their car before they made it fast, cause I'm not an extreme tuner and I don't care to be, so I'm not going to act like one.

-taking cheap shortcuts as to doing things professionally
-thinking they're fast when they aren't
-acting like they know everything when they really dont know the difference between "V-tec" and DSM"

I think we all agree that the above mentioned are just some of the real defenitions of the term "ricer", not because I care more about looks then speed...

 

[Dieselboy]

Originally posted by scorpion
Well I just want to throw in my two cents on the subject...to me the term "rice" is for the kid who has the honda....

A part of rice can be pertained to people who are biased toward other model cars soley. Some people havent learned yet that rice has no preference. Its a cold blooded car killing phenomenon that can happen to any make/model of car.