Some like it smooth

[gstspoolin]

I recently purchased a carbon fiber rear hatch for my 95gst.

Now my dilemma is should I rock the car clean (no spoiler - smooth as a baby's bottom)

or find someone that can make me the center piece of my spoiler in carbon fiber. So the left and right side would be red, and the center piece of my spoiler that's attached to the hatch would also be carbon fiber.

The hatch is made by VIS. I'll post pics tonight.

 

[james13]

definitely rock it spoilerless!

How much did the hatch cost? Are you using stock glass?


-James

 

[Gary 420A RS]

what he said and i want to see some pictures after you get it up especialy if you use stock glass... Wingless

 

[speedy13]

get the stock looking carbonfiber wing and call it a day.

 

[SnoopySLR]

oem CF wing, or no wing. Are you using lexan or the factory glass? I'm doing this this winter... I'm amped!

 

[SoilentGreen98]

Smoooooooth!

 

[Nanan]

Go smooth!

 

[JST2FST]

I was going to say smooth, but the carbon fiber middle with the red sides sounds damn sexy.

 

[HighPsi92GST]

I was going to say smooth, but the carbon fiber middle with the red sides sounds damn sexy.

Id agree, sounds like it might look kind of cool

 

[gstspoolin]

thanx for the replies guys. I got the CF hatch by luck...from a member on this board. Cost me $450. Trying to get a hold of my sister digi camera to snap some pics.

I was told that the factory glass will work with the hatch. It definetly looks like top quality work, it's made by VIS by the way.

 

[KlowdDragon]

thanx for the replies guys. I got the CF hatch by luck...from a member on this board. Cost me $450. Trying to get a hold of my sister digi camera to snap some pics.

I was told that the factory glass will work with the hatch. It definetly looks like top quality work, it's made by VIS by the way.

the creator of the of the hood which constantly pops up and shattered peoples windows

 

[Wicked96GS-T]

the creator of the of the hood which constantly pops up and shattered peoples windows

I guess that's why 99% of people with carbon fiber hoods recommend getting hood pins . If people would listen, we probably wouldn't see so many smashed hoods/winshields threads.

 

[KlowdDragon]

true true
better get some pins for that hatch, dont wanna break too hard and have it fly up !

 

[SnoopySLR]

Your pins have to be on the top of it, near the roof. Not many people are hitting speeds to pop hoods/hatchs up in reverse.

 

[dsmmyth]

I recently purchased a carbon fiber rear hatch for my 95gst.

Now my dilemma is should I rock the car clean (no spoiler - smooth as a baby's bottom)

or find someone that can make me the center piece of my spoiler in carbon fiber. So the left and right side would be red, and the center piece of my spoiler that's attached to the hatch would also be carbon fiber.

The hatch is made by VIS. I'll post pics tonight.

Totally smooth. It also will depreciate if you put holes in it.

Looking forward to the reveal.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

this thread definitely needs pics

as for the comment on hoods popping up and hitting the windshield.. call it a coincidence, but all the stories i've heard/read about cf hoods flying off are VIS hoods.. so perhaps thats why he mentioned it.

 

[DSMhelex]

this thread definitely needs pics

as for the comment on hoods popping up and hitting the windshield.. call it a coincidence, but all the stories i've heard/read about cf hoods flying off are VIS hoods.. so perhaps thats why he mentioned it.

and im sorry to say this is true... my hood flew up. didnt break the windshield, just cracked the hood in 4 different spots...

oh and guess what kinda hood it was???

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[shpyder]

this thread definitely needs pics

as for the comment on hoods popping up and hitting the windshield.. call it a coincidence, but all the stories i've heard/read about cf hoods flying off are VIS hoods.. so perhaps thats why he mentioned it.

To suggest that it is only ViS hoods that are the culprits is a basless arguement. The reason why all you hear about are ViS hoods, is because people only buy these hoods. ViS makes the best quality CF hoods out there, but given enough leverage, any CF hood can have just enough pressure from airflow to want to pop open, and the latch to fail. It's simple physics. Getting hoodpins is an absolute necessity, no matter how good or bad the hood quality is, or how strong you think the latch will hold.

 

[ddavisaf]

To suggest that it is only ViS hoods that are the culprits is a basless arguement. The reason why all you hear about are ViS hoods, is because people only buy these hoods. ViS makes the best quality CF hoods out there, but given enough leverage, any CF hood can have just enough pressure from airflow to want to pop open, and the latch to fail. It's simple physics. Getting hoodpins is an absolute necessity, no matter how good or bad the hood quality is, or how strong you think the latch will hold.

Is that a picture of hood pins I see on your car? So how many times has YOUR hood smashed your windshield?

 

[blcknspo0ln]

hood pins, hood pins, hood pins.. you guys should know better.

and to add to the topic... try the RUDORA chin wing.. I think it'd look sick with a CF hatch

 

[shpyder]

Is that a picture of hood pins I see on your car? So how many times has YOUR hood smashed your windshield?

None actually, knock on wood. I didn't get the sarcasm though.

The basic point is that there is no carbon fiber hood out there that is safe to run without pins, be it a ViS or any other brand.

A bad analogy, but the only one I can think of right now, is "I got an MBC and turned the boost up. It blew my engine. Bad MBC." No, bad you for failing to operate the MBC correctly. The MBC has nothing to do with it. Just like the quality or make of the hood has little to do with the latch. "I got a ViS hood and didn't buy hood pins, and it flew right up into the windshield. ViS is bad". No its not. I don't buy a CF hood because the latch is strong. The latch is the least of my concerns, because I know that the only proper way to run a CF hood on any car is with hood pins, and that makes the latch merely secondary, if not out right redundant. Capice?

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

To suggest that it is only ViS hoods that are the culprits is a basless arguement. The reason why all you hear about are ViS hoods, is because people only buy these hoods. ViS makes the best quality CF hoods out there, but given enough leverage, any CF hood can have just enough pressure from airflow to want to pop open, and the latch to fail. It's simple physics. Getting hoodpins is an absolute necessity, no matter how good or bad the hood quality is, or how strong you think the latch will hold.

it was all based on observation.. however, to say that "VIS makes the best quality CF hoods out there" is definitely a baseless argument.. esp when I work at a major company that deals with aftermarket parts, bodykits, hoods, etc.. ive seen a bunch.. VIS is NOT the best quality.. they are mediocore at most.. esp their customer service.. if you want QUALITY CF hoods.. seibon, and fibre images are much better than VIS..

for reference.. i myself do not have a VIS CF hood.. i have a Wayson USA (AeroGear) OEM style hood.. i have hoodpins but not installed.. I do plan to install them, but my car only sees 100 miles a month and it is usually cruising on familiar roads.. and I tend to neglect doing it because besides that my car is finished.. I have stupidly, because of forgetfulness.. gone 140MPH WOT accelerations on the freeway.. and countless of 3rd gear pulls to tune my t3/t4 DSMLink equipped vehicle.., due to my stubborness. and my hood has held solid.. I will vouch for my CF hood.. maybe i'm just lucky.. but im not complaining.. knock on wood..

here is is:

BLING

 

[shpyder]

it was all based on observation.. however, to say that "VIS makes the best quality CF hoods out there" is definitely a baseless argument.. esp when I work at a major company that deals with aftermarket parts, bodykits, hoods, etc.. ive seen a bunch.. VIS is NOT the best quality.. they are mediocore at most.. esp their customer service.. if you want QUALITY CF hoods.. seibon, and fibre images are much better than VIS..

for reference.. i myself do not have a VIS CF hood.. i have a Wayson USA (AeroGear) OEM style hood.. i have hoodpins but not installed.. I do plan to install them, but my car only sees 100 miles a month and it is usually cruising on familiar roads.. and I tend to neglect doing it because besides that my car is finished.. I have stupidly, because of forgetfulness.. gone 140MPH WOT accelerations on the freeway.. and countless of 3rd gear pulls to tune my t3/t4 DSMLink equipped vehicle.., due to my stubborness. and my hood has held solid.. I will vouch for my CF hood.. maybe i'm just lucky.. but im not complaining.. knock on wood..

here is is:

BLING

Firstly: It's not an arguement, its an opinion. It isn't baselss, on account of the following observations:

ViS hoods seem to be the most popular CF hoods people run (on the forums and at car meets). I keep hearing ViS almost every time a reccommendation is requested or a review of excellence required. A huge majority of people out there have not even heard of Seibon and Fiber Images (not thereby demeaning their quality).

Several members of this forum, and another that I visit frequently, have been using ViS hoods, and swear by their quality.

The old school performance shop I go to couldn't care less about CF hoods types, but the hood on one of their many Mustangs is a ViS hood. After a year, it still looks great and they will buy a ViS again.

10 people I have personally known, have been running ViS hoods, and having nice things to say about them.

3 of these people switched from other brands to ViS due to previous hood quality problems, including one person melting two previous non-ViS hoods from engine heat before.

I have had a ViS hood for 5 months, and the resin is perfectly laid and the fitment is excellent. It has withstood SoCal sunshine and the rainy spell before that, and ofcourse, the notorious barbecue that it sits on, the 4g63T. I call that a good hood.

A little less 'baseless' than throwing around "I work at a major company that deals with aftermarket parts, bodykits, hoods, etc.. ive seen a bunch.. VIS is NOT the best quality.. they are mediocore at most".

Secondly: I couldnt care less about ViS's customer service, because I did not deal with ViS, I wanted their hood, not to get into their pants. ViS hoods are sold by many other vendors as part of their inventory. From all the one's I have seen, the resin is excellently laid and and fitment is accurate. They also outlast generic "Grade A" wannabe hoods from E-Bay. They also have held up to engine heat without melting, compared to these generic hoods. As a matter of statistics, there must be severel people out there in minority, that hate ViS, because their hoods went bad or faded. Merely lemons of the hood world, nothing more, bad luck sucks.


Thirdly: It doesn't matter how slow you think youre going, or how fast you gone without the hood fly up yet. The issue here is aftermarket latch failure. The aftermarket latch can hold forever (as my friend's 96 GS-T has held up over a year, ViS), or fail out the door, read: http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193164&highlight=hood+pins

I ran my car without pins for 2 months up and down the freeway and horrendous speeds. I am a very lucky idiot, to say the least, that my latch just happened to hold. I got pins the very next day after I saw a similar thread elsewhere. The issue here is latch failure, as I have screamed before, and not hood quality. An excellently laid hood can have a latch gone bad, but as I said earlier, the latch isn't even considered (if you are playing by the rules and are smart) when you buy a hood, because you must run hood pins anyway. A bad latch does not mean a bad hood, and vice versa, even though they are parts of the same object. Have you ever heard anyone say "I don't need hood pins because I'm going with Seibon!! or Fiber Images!!". No. That's because the welds on these aftermarket hoods are the stress points that weaken and lead to the latch breaking apart. There is enough air pressure under the hood to lift the CF hood onto the windshield at even 35 mph. All it takes is a gust of wing or angle of the road to help you along to getting a new windshield.

A solid 2 cents.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

did i hurt your feelings? calm down buddy.. its a cf hood.. again my response was based on my observations.. you can go ahead and write a 10 page argument.. im not going to waste my time arguing on something with appearance.

but when it all comes down to it.. as i said in my first post in this thread.. most if not all of the post regarding CF hoods flying off are VIS hoods.. you can argue and give me how many friends you got and what not.. but i don't care about that.. as I originally stated in my first post.. thats whats been the trend lately and I was just justifying the previous poster KlowdDragon

if you think VIS is the best CF hood however.. you should look at other brands.. keep in mind i did not say VIS was bad.. but they are far from being the best..

and of course hoodpins are always recommended

 

[blcknspo0ln]

and of course hoodpins are always recommended

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where are yours?