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Old 08-31-2008, 10:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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T3??

Well I just received my manifold and downpipe. I have had the turbo for a couple weeks now which was off of ebay. It is supposedly a T3 turbine. So I get a T3 flanged downpipe and manifold. The turbo inlet fits fine to the manifold as it should. The exhaust side isnt quite there though. ha. Sooo, I am basically confused as I have looked for different size turbos, gaskets, flanges and other options to find what is going on here. Am I missing something or is it some sort of special T3 that I dont know about yet? The turbine is Garrett. Apparently the compressor is Turbonetics but anyway... The second pic is the downpipe
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What's the problem? The part your showing is the 5 bolt hotside of a T3 turbo. as long as the inlet of the turbo where it bolts up to the manifold is the same then that 5 bolt pattern should be the same. Is that downpipe custom or did you buy it somewhere? I don't know any company other than hahn that makes dp's that fit our cars out the box so you probably just bought a generic dp that is made for a turbo facing the other direction that's all. Your still going to have to have it customized then.
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It is a custom downpipe and manifold I got off of 2gnt. Its a T3 flanged dp and even the gasket I got for it fits the dp but not the turbo. The dp and gasket arent even close to lining up and are too small. Here is a pic of the gasket on the turbo and one on the dp. Fits the dp but not the turbo.
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It is a custom downpipe and manifold I got off of 2gnt. Its a T3 flanged dp and even the gasket I got for it fits the dp but not the turbo. The dp and gasket arent even close to lining up and are too small. Here is a pic of the gasket on the turbo and one on the dp. Fits the dp but not the turbo.
Well either your ebay turbo is a bad knock off of a 5 bolt which I would imagine is the problem or the guy that sold you the downpipe never bolted that dp up to make sure it fit.
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Thats ebay for you.
The same thing happened to me. I just got a 5 bolt flange off ebay and it didnt line up perfect. However its alot closer then yours, im just going to egg out the holes and it'll work fine. I would suggest the same for you.
Just buy a 5 bolt downpipe flange and have a shop custom make the downpipe for you.


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The downpipe looks like its used by the carbon buildup, though I could be mistaken, so I would imagine it has the correct t3 flange. So buying another pre-drilled downpipe flange would yield the same problem.

I would suggest having the turbine housing re-drilled to the correct pattern or possibly having a shop cut their own flange to match your turbine housing.


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Well according to this http://www.roadraceengineering.com/p...tletflange.jpg my gasket and dp are the right size but the turbo isnt. Its a garrett turbine and is used. Do ebay companies make knock-offs and brand them with garrett? So assuming the RRE site has correct parts which I am sure they do, my turbo is not correct but I dont see how.
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It's very likely that the ebay turbo was produced with the wrong bolt pattern.


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You should contact a garret dealer and inquire about this problem Tell them exactly what you have and ask them if there were differn't 5 bolt housings. either that or just get a new flange made. any welding shop can do it.


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Well I am still confused on this but I have tried two places that sell Garrett turbos and they didnt have an explanation other than I would need a flange made. I went over to a local machine shop that mostly deals with big orders and so he told me it would cost $600 or so, maybe less, to get it done which included tracing it out, cutting it, everything I needed. The turbo was 1/3 of that price so I am obviously not doing that. ha. I havent tried an exhaust shop yet but I figured the machine shop would be easier to make a flange....guess not
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Well I am still confused on this but I have tried two places that sell Garrett turbos and they didnt have an explanation other than I would need a flange made. I went over to a local machine shop that mostly deals with big orders and so he told me it would cost $600 or so, maybe less, to get it done which included tracing it out, cutting it, everything I needed. The turbo was 1/3 of that price so I am obviously not doing that. ha. I havent tried an exhaust shop yet but I figured the machine shop would be easier to make a flange....guess not
A exhaust shop will be should be able to make a flange. I have had a few made in the past. Because $600 is just ridiculous. You should be able to have a whole exhaust made, for less.


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I know that there are to differant type of 5-bolt exhaust housings, but they are not both from Garrett. Let me see I dig it up.


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T3, T3/T4 5 Bolt Outlet:
T3 5 Bolt Outlet Flange Standard - TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

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Well I ended up going to an exhaust shop and the guy told me they didnt have the tools to cut it but told me to take it to a custom fabricator guy that had a plasma cutter and did lots of those types of flanges so I did that. He basically made an outline of the flange using a ballpeene hammer and cardboard. He told me to come back later that day and he would be done with it. I came back and everything was finished. The biggest surprise is that he charged me $40..haha..compared to the $600 from the fabrication place...and it FITS too..woo
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I'm glad you got that fixed.


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