Nosss

[NyteDSM96]

i wanna put nos on a 95 rs that belongs to my friend. i was thinkin it would be best to put a 25 shot of nos. he suggests higher. i believe that 25 is the safest way to go. is it, or is it not? how much could his tranny take all together?

 

[Ghost1984]

I think the tranny could handle more, you could propably do a 50hp shot safely, but thats my $.02

 

[NyteDSM96]

i guess a 50 shot is reasonable, but i dont really trust mitsubishi transmissions that much. heard too many bad things about them.

 

[Ghost1984]

i guess a 50 shot is reasonable, but i dont really trust mitsubishi transmissions that much. heard too many bad things about them.

i read in another thread that the 2g tranny can handle up to 500hp, im pretty sure a 50 shot wouldnt do anything to it, might want to upgrade clutch if 5 speed.

 

[awd4g63]

If you learn to launch the car right, I'd hit a 75 shot on there.

 

[awd4g63]

btw, make sure you use a wet-kit if you go that high.

 

[NyteDSM96]

i heard sum crap that dry kits only work on carburetors. i think the guy was bs-ing me. wats the difference, im not really into nos, wouldnt really know how to use it.

 

[SPEED-RACER 97]

i guess a 50 shot is reasonable, but i dont really trust mitsubishi transmissions that much. heard too many bad things about them.

Not to be an ass, but if its an RS, it would have a chrysler transmission, not a mitsubishi.

 

[Turbo 420a]

Uhhhh a 25-shot too conservative? I think I've spent a total of three seconds of my life thinking of nitrous oxide in relation to my car, but I do know the 420a can handle more than 25.

If you insist on using nitrous (or your friend for that matter) - I'm sure a 50-shot would be acceptable. The 420a transmission has supported 400+ horsepower.. The tranny will be fine with a 25-50 shot. It would just be the stock motor I would be worried about spraying with. But I'm no nitrous expert with the 420a so I will shut my stinkhole.

Oh, you might get a more informed response if you post this in the N/T Performance section (you posted in the N/T Turbo section). Or even the the Nitrous Oxide forum on this site would be of more use...

 

[97eclipseRS]

first off, i dont know of any nitrous manufacturer that actually uses a shot as low as a 25. nx's lowest that i am aware of is a 35. there is no reason to be that damn conservative. you will be fine with a 50 shot but there are some 2gnt'ers running around with 75 shots that are still fine

 

[NyteDSM96]

how could u not know of a manufacturer that does lower than 35, dats ridiculous. why should he put a 75 hp shot of nos? so dat he could blow his block? this guy is stock up the ass beside ur usual muffler (not exhaust, muffler), and aem cold air intake. i'd be most worried about that block. i didnt know the transmission is that good (or at least thats what im hearing), all chrysler transmissions i know of are the definition of crap. even if the block could handle the spray, theres still gonna be complications in the long run, THATS what im afraid of for him.

 

[SilverEclipseT]

The stock internals should be able to handle 250hp according to turbo standards so i assume it should be the same with using NOS. Whatever spray that equals I'm not sure.

As for the tranny you won't have to worry about that.

 

[NyteDSM96]

whoa there, 250 hp just from just nos??? thats around a 110 shot of nos, depending on the brand of course. i still dont know wat the difference between a dry and wet kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[awd4g63]

whoa there, 250 hp just from just nos??? thats around a 110 shot of nos, depending on the brand of course. i still dont know wat the difference between a dry and wet kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 shot = (all things being equal, ie: air density, etc.) 1 horsey.

Wet kit: Nitrous + Fuel
Dry kit: Nitrous w/no fuel

A wet kit uses it's own fuel lines to inject fuel right beside the nitrous jet. Since nitrous breaks down into Oxygen when it's 'ignited' in the combustion chamber, it's basically like having a turbo, forcing air inside the cylinders. A dry kit would be like using a bigger turbo without the added upgraded fuel injectors needed.

 

[GSGoinFast]

dont worry about the tranny 1 bit unless your spraying a 250 shot . i would be more worried about the brittle rods and pistons if i were you. the reason the engine can hold 250hp with a turbo is cause the turbo builds up the power, while the nitrous shoves it in all at once, which can be rouhg on the engine. but your definatly safe with a 50 shot, and if he uses it right and doesnt abuse it, there shouldnt be any complications.

 

[TimG]

whoa there, 250 hp just from just nos??? thats around a 110 shot of nos, depending on the brand of course. i still dont know wat the difference between a dry and wet kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All he was saying is that the motor should be able to handle 250HP IF need be. A turbo set-up can put out that much HP, so if nitrous is used, the motor will also handle 250HP. Just go with a 75shot, wet kit with direct port injection. You'll need to drill into your intake manifold but just take it off and install everything right when you are done.

Get preped with all the system needs. You'll be looking to spend close to $500 if you want everything top quality and hidden from the police. I don't know about you, but if I ever go nitrous, I'm only going with the highest quality and it will be hidden.

 

[97eclipseRS]

All he was saying is that the motor should be able to handle 250HP IF need be. A turbo set-up can put out that much HP, so if nitrous is used, the motor will also handle 250HP. Just go with a 75shot, wet kit with direct port injection. You'll need to drill into your intake manifold but just take it off and install everything right when you are done.

Get preped with all the system needs. You'll be looking to spend close to $500 if you want everything top quality and hidden from the police. I don't know about you, but if I ever go nitrous, I'm only going with the highest quality and it will be hidden.

itll cost more than 500. thats how much the kit alone costs

 

[GSGoinFast]

All he was saying is that the motor should be able to handle 250HP IF need be. A turbo set-up can put out that much HP, so if nitrous is used, the motor will also handle 250HP. Just go with a 75shot, wet kit with direct port injection. You'll need to drill into your intake manifold but just take it off and install everything right when you are done.

Get preped with all the system needs. You'll be looking to spend close to $500 if you want everything top quality and hidden from the police. I don't know about you, but if I ever go nitrous, I'm only going with the highest quality and it will be hidden.

i dont think it will be able to handle 250hp on nitrous alone, think, do you think it could handle a 110hp surge? it can handle a gradual buildup, but i dunno about a instant surge of that much power.

by the way, is nitrous illegal to have? why hide it from the police?

 

[97eclipseRS]

i dont think it will be able to handle 250hp on nitrous alone, think, do you think it could handle a 110hp surge? it can handle a gradual buildup, but i dunno about a instant surge of that much power.

by the way, is nitrous illegal to have? why hide it from the police?

i think it is illegal to use it on the street but i could be wrong so dont quote me on that

 

[SilverEclipseT]

i dont think it will be able to handle 250hp on nitrous alone, think, do you think it could handle a 110hp surge? it can handle a gradual buildup, but i dunno about a instant surge of that much power.

by the way, is nitrous illegal to have? why hide it from the police?

It is illegal on the street, but some states like NJ it is illegal to even have possession of it.

 

[awd4g63]

Here in Georgia, you can use it at the track, have it in your possesion, but you can't have it hooked up while on a public roadway. Certain states will be different, of course, but this is the general idea they all have.

 

[GSGoinFast]

well how could they tell if you used it or not?? and doesn anyone know what it is for illinois? i dont think its illegal to have since all the shops sell it, but im might be wrong.

 

[NyteDSM96]

to gsgoinfast - nos is one of those things thats legal to buy, but illegal to use, its f***** stupid. and yes, what i was tryin to say was that theres no way in hell that the engine could be able to reach up to 250 hp with just nos alone.

to awd4g63- one shot of nos does not always equal one horsepower, sometimes more, somtimes less depending on the brand. and yes on average one shot means one hp. why do u think i said to get an rs to 250 from 140 its a 110 hp shot of nos. 250-140=110 thanx for the advice on the kits, but i heard wet kits are better than dry kits, clarrify me on that.

to timg and 97eclipseRS- i could get a nos kit for $100. and i have friend who's a mechanic who could install it just fine with all the tools necessary to drill anything into the intake manifold.

to everyone- THE NOS ISNT FOR ME, ITS FOR MY FRIEND'S RS, I GOT A GS-T.... (no one reads the openin theme i suppose)

 

[97eclipseRS]

to gsgoinfast - nos is one of those things thats legal to buy, but illegal to use, its f***** stupid. and yes, what i was tryin to say was that theres no way in hell that the engine could be able to reach up to 250 hp with just nos alone.

to awd4g63- one shot of nos does not always equal one horsepower, sometimes more, somtimes less depending on the brand. and yes on average one shot means one hp. why do u think i said to get an rs to 250 from 140 its a 110 hp shot of nos. 250-140=110 thanx for the advice on the kits, but i heard wet kits are better than dry kits, clarrify me on that.

to timg and 97eclipseRS- i could get a nos kit for $100. and i have friend who's a mechanic who could install it just fine with all the tools necessary to drill anything into the intake manifold.

to everyone- THE NOS ISNT FOR ME, ITS FOR MY FRIEND'S RS, I GOT A GS-T.... (no one reads the openin theme i suppose)

where the hell are you going to get a nitrous kit for 100 bucks? either you got hook ups or its a shit brand thats gonna #### up on your friend

 

[NyteDSM96]

no shit its a hook up, i never heard of a nitrous kit at $100 when at full price. i wouldnt even think of nos if i had to get at $500, for dat shit i pull out a turbo off of another eclipse and make it boost 6 psi on his rs.