Venom 400 performance module

[lilbayz311]

I am thinking about buying a venom 400 performance module for my 97 eclipse GS. I was wondering if anyone has experienced with one, if it is worth the $300? How much horsepower would you say that you gained?

 

[dr1665]

I am thinking about buying a venom 400 performance module for my 97 eclipse GS.

Stop doing that.

I was wondering if anyone has experienced with one, if it is worth the $300?

They are a joke and there are much better ways to spend your $300. Cheap liquor and whores come to mind.

How much horsepower would you say that you gained?

Not as much as you would gain from a full exhaust set up (which you could do for that price if you do your homework).

Try searching this subject and see what you get. General consensus is that these things are more a risk to your engine than anything else. If you believe the bullshit claims of the companies that sell these things, then I have a bridge I'd like you to take a look at.

 

[SoilentGreen98]

Do a search, this has been covered several times. They're pure garbage.

 

[lilbayz311]

thanks dude
what would you recommend me to get next to gain the most horsepower then?

 

[SoilentGreen98]

be more specific, get more horsepower how? You just looking for something that is like a chip or plug and play? I know little about things like that and for the most part I prefer not to cause a lot of them are myths about boosting hp.

 

[lilbayz311]

this is another thread that I have posted...

I have a 97 eclipse GS. I just barely bought it and I want to fix it up. I have already bought the cold air intake. I have ordered an OBX intake manifold off ebay but it hasn't arrived yet. I have read another persons thread about the OBX manifold and what I got out of it is that it won't increase horsepower unless I have more mods and that it is hard to install. I have already purchased it so I am going to use it. I want to know what I should buy next to increase horsepower the most without a turbo. I am on a tight budget working part-time getting paid only $6 an hour.

bored throttle body 58-60 mm - which would be better?
venom 400 performance module
header
fuel injectors
exhaust
or something else

 

[bullettdsm]

First re-read dr1665 post.
The flow of air through the engine is a weak link kind of thing. It is only as good as your weakest link. What you are trying to do is get the most amount of air through the engine as fast and efficiently as you can. That being said, what the others are trying to tell you is that an intake alone won't really help because it is restricted by the rest of the system (TB, head,header, flex pipe, cat, exhaust). So what you really want is to open up that whole system. Now I don't know how tight your money is but you can go to Concept Illusions (or ebay if you dare) and port out your TB. I don't know who is offering 58mm but Concept Illusions will port your TB to 52 ($40?) or 55($70?). If you want the 60mm you can go to get the Modern Performance (for around $250) or you can get a Jeep TB and make a hybrid (do search). Pacesetter header is all you need (around $120). Cheap high flow cat (really a resonator-$40) and a cat back system (see e-bay). I would not recommend the 58? or 60mm TB. Too much for what you are doing. I would say that 55mm leaves you a little room to expand until you do nitrous or turbo

I would suggest that you don't go for the "magic chip." It ain't out there. You need to produce more efficient flow.

My suggestion is to take this and do a search on each item so that you can make an educated choice. this is just my 2 sense

 

[Redmachine]

Get a AF/X computer from howell automotive. It learns on its own and tweaks the fuel/air curve per mod you do. 399 for it. Then af/x UDP's, a full exhuast-header back, and don't get a axle back, go full out with testpipe/hiflo cat(same thing). Cam gears with nice cams, a CAI(most perfer AEM but pick what ya like) The 60mm would work great but so would the 55mm TB. Don't expect ungodly HP numbers from our engines because it ain't happening. BUT do have fun modding your car(that's whats it's all about)

 

[JRichter]

I'm w/ them... What bullitdsm and Redmachine said is exactly is what you need to do broke down straight.

 

[lilbayz311]

so I guess I will save my money up for an AF/X ECU. Are they easy to install? Then I will buy a bigger throttle body. would you recommend a 60 mm one from modern performance, or a 58 mm bored throttle body off ebay if I am not planning on putting a turbo on my car?
And what should I do about the OBX intake manifold that I have already ordered off ebay?
I didnt no about this forum until today or I wouldn't have ordered it. The return policy for it is I can only return if damaged on arrival then I have to pay a restocking fee. Plus the extra shipping and handling.
Would cold air intake, bigger throttle body, AF/X ECU, and exhaust make the intake manifold help out at all?

 

[New2Dsms]

If you believe the bullshit claims of the companies that sell these things, then I have a bridge I'd like you to take a look at.

Z! :laugh:

 

[JRichter]

And what should I do about the OBX intake manifold that I have already ordered off ebay?
I didnt no about this forum until today or I wouldn't have ordered it. The return policy for it is I can only return if damaged on arrival then I have to pay a restocking fee. Plus the extra shipping and handling.

Resale it on ebay. Someone will buy it.

 

[GSGoinFast]

does anyone else think that when you first register on this site, the first 20 times you click on "create new thread" it should link you directly to the advanced search page?

 

[lilbayz311]

do you guys think that this is worth the money:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5752425126&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcN__Stores
what about this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...11233&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcN__Stores

 

[Redmachine]

do you guys think that this is worth the money:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5752425126&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcN__Stores
what about this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...11233&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcN__Stores

I say spend the extra 50 bucks per sub and get some JL audio subs, they sound way better than the explodes and will probablly last longer. A sealed box sounds better than the bandpass IMO
http://www.tweeter.com/product/inde....1124550.1124488&sublevel=2&parentPage=family

 

[SoilentGreen98]

Sony is garbage for car audio

 

[lilbayz311]

Does anyone know where I can get a decent turbo for cheap? Like a used one or something.

 

[SoilentGreen98]

Depends on what your idea of cheap is. Plus, if you're gonna go cheap on something, I suggest a turbo kit not be it.

 

[lilbayz311]

what about this:
http://www.rnrracing.com/cgi-bin/cc...=69.104.156.109&pg=cat&ref=PTE+Bolt-on+Turbos

I found this link at the top of this page it said $895 shipped

 

[GSGoinFast]

what about this:
http://www.rnrracing.com/cgi-bin/cc...=69.104.156.109&pg=cat&ref=PTE+Bolt-on+Turbos

I found this link at the top of this page it said $895 shipped

why would you buy just a turbo for $895 when you could buy a whole star kit for $1900?

 

[lilbayz311]

becuase I don't have $1,900. Shit my whole car cost me $4,000 and I'm still making payments

 

[Redmachine]

The turbo isn't everything you need. You need the fuel portion as well as a turbo maniold(a N/T header will not do) You can't just throw a turbo on and expect it to work. Save your bucks and then get everything at once. You said you can't afford 1900 but you can 895? The 1900 covers the turbo, manifold, oil lines, connectors, piping, FMU, etc so you are getting alot for that and you get support from the company. Just save the cash.

 

[SoilentGreen98]

Man, I wish it was just that easy as to buy a turbo and that's it! I've strongly contemplating turboing my car but I've chosen to buy a 2nd DSM instead, so right now I'm on the lookout.



Also, you don't seem to have much knowledge on the subject. I really strongly urge you to stay away from going turbo. If you don't know anything about turbos, especially aftermarket ones, you shouldn't be around them cause you'll end up ruining your car/engine and wasting a ton of cash. Learn about the whole subject first.

 

[dr1665]

In skimming through this thread, it's obvious to this DSMer that the new guy needs to spend more time reading through the search utility than eBay. If you don't know what you're doing, eBay will eat your lunch, man. If you can't use it, or it's garbage, even $5 for something on eBay is a waste of money better spent elsewhere. You're not going to just have the best information simply handed over to you. You need to work for some of it. Modifying a DSM is more than just half-ass shopping for cheap parts on eBay and slapping them on. It's about defining a specific set of goals you want to achieve and then carefully selecting the components which will get you to those goals as effciently as possible. You have to weigh cost, speed and quality. You only get two at a time. Remember that.

 

[lilbayz311]

Also, you don't seem to have much knowledge on the subject. I really strongly urge you to stay away from going turbo. If you don't know anything about turbos, especially aftermarket ones, you shouldn't be around them cause you'll end up ruining your car/engine and wasting a ton of cash. Learn about the whole subject first.

I really was not planning on going turbo, I just wanted to know if anyone had a used one that they didn't use anymore. I know that there is more to turboing your car than just the turbo itself. I've heard of a lot of people blowing their engines by installing turbos. Since I am not all into racing at the track then I really don't need one unless I want more tickets than I already have.