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Originally Posted by VelocitąPaola
How is anything "PnP" supposed to work on a hacked and modified car with an entirely different engine? If there are any changes to the sensors, etc., it probably will not be a PnP affair.
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What do you mean? I think you thought I was referring to PnP used with a 2.4 swap or something like that I was just talking about with high compression piston turbo setup not the other crazy setup stuff he was talking about with engine swaps.
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Originally Posted by dr1665
It's been done before. 2GNT with highly customized 2.4L out of a Stratus. Unfortunately, the shop that did the build down in Texas was fairly inept. After the car changed hands, it underwent a great deal of clean up and proper tuning. Ended up putting just over 300 to the wheels. Less than impressive.
Exactly.
Those who can't handle the installation of a non-PnP tuning tool should seriously reconsider their build goals. There is really minimal-to-zero aftermarket support for 2GNT 420A tuning, so if you don't want to learn to install the one proven tuning package, then don't bother building a powerful 2GNT, as it's only going to end in tears.
10.5:1CR with forced induction is doable. Keep a close eye on your AFR and EGTs. The ability to adjust ignition timing will be paramount. I would suggest anyone with serious aspirations for their forced induction 2GNT to make MS one of their first purchases. Even on a stock 2GNT, you can become familiar with tuning and see the benefit of improved economy, which will save you money between fill-ups.
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I disagree with this statement. I would not try and tackle a full non PnP MSnS install even though with enough time and research I know I could probably do it I wouldn't. Yet I know how to tune and the key things to look for when tuning. I tuned my 90 tsi with dsmlink(similar to PnP MSnS) and it took me all of 10 minutes to install.
My suggestion wait for MSnS PnP get a wideband with logging capabilities and a egt gauge and the sky is the limit with tuning capabilities. Not to mention the fastest 420a on here with the exception of Hahn's car is a turbo 420a with portfueler(PnP)