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What Turbo is this? [Merged] Turbo ID Identification

Zufelt

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Oct 15, 2012
Lemoore, California
Hey guys. Curious if anyone can name this turbo.. I apologize ahead of time for the minimal informatio. The turbo is on a car I plan on purchasing but the owner seems to think it's stock.. Which it's obviously not. Here are the two pictures I have. Unfortunately none of the wheel itself.
 

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dc320

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Dec 22, 2011
CARMEL, New_York
Hey guys. Curious if anyone can name this turbo.. I apologize ahead of time for the minimal informatio. The turbo is on a car I plan on purchasing but the owner seems to think it's stock.. Which it's obviously not. Here are the two pictures I have. Unfortunately none of the wheel itself.
Its a Garrett thats for sure, maybe a t25. I am only guessing though.
 

Mikr

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Jun 4, 2015
mesa, Arizona
I need help identifying this turbo, thought it was suppose to be a 20g but from the serial numbers I am confused.

On the Hot side:
(mitsubishi symbol) 78-13700 070 p5 2s/X26
On the Cold side:
TDO5 A3 (1K) (6/0) S k301011 49178-01410

The turbo looks ported with duel fins also.
 

Chumpaumpalumpa

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Jun 16, 2014
La Habra, California
Hello everyone, just picked up 3 good sized turbos for dirt cheap and was wondering what they are so I can get some flow numbers on these. I have a feeling they are Chinese but I am not 100% what they are. I will upload pics of one of them at a time and when that one is figured out, move on to the next one and post a group of pictures for it. This 1st one had "HX" stamped on the turbine side. Fake Holset something?
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Steve93Talon

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Jan 20, 2005
Philly Burbs, Pennsylvania
Hello everyone, just picked up 3 good sized turbos for dirt cheap and was wondering what they are so I can get some flow numbers on these. I have a feeling they are Chinese but I am not 100% what they are. I will upload pics of one of them at a time and when that one is figured out, move on to the next one and post a group of pictures for it. This 1st one had "HX" stamped on the turbine side. Fake Holset something?

Looks like some variant/knock-off of a Ford Powerstroke diesel OEM turbo - reverse rotation and v-band divided turbine.
 

Chumpaumpalumpa

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Jun 16, 2014
La Habra, California
Knockoff GTP38 from a 7.3 Powerstroke....99-03 models specifically. Basically useless on anything except a 7.3 Powerstroke due to how these turbos are supplied oil.
Thanks for the replies. Yea all 3 have the same weird looking center housing for the oil supply so I suspect all 3 are for the powerstroke. Still would like to know what they are. Even with them being knockoffs, do you think that they would all flow fairly close to their genuine counterparts? This one's a little smaller housing wise and has a 9 blade wheel.
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JusMX141

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Dec 13, 2005
Greensburg, Pennsylvania
Another knockoff GTP38.

A local guy installed one of these once on a higher-mileage 7.3 Powerstroke and the turbine came apart BAD at around 15,000 miles. He had already sold/scrapped the failed OEM turbo so I ended up rebuilding/installing a Genuine Garrett GTP38 CHRA into his knockoff housings to get him back on the road as the GTP38 core I had wasn't the correct unit for his truck (housings were different).

I wouldn't do anything with these if I were you...they're around $350-$400 new, maybe you can get $100-$150 a piece for them on Craigslist or something and use that money toward an actual turbo worth using.
 

Chumpaumpalumpa

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Jun 16, 2014
La Habra, California
Another knockoff GTP38.

A local guy installed one of these once on a higher-mileage 7.3 Powerstroke and the turbine came apart BAD at around 15,000 miles. He had already sold/scrapped the failed OEM turbo so I ended up rebuilding/installing a Genuine Garrett GTP38 CHRA into his knockoff housings to get him back on the road as the GTP38 core I had wasn't the correct unit for his truck (housings were different).

I wouldn't do anything with these if I were you...they're around $350-$400 new, maybe you can get $100-$150 a piece for them on Craigslist or something and use that money toward an actual turbo worth using.
Agreed, this isn't going on my DSM. Just wanted to know what they were. Figured they would most likely be junk anyhow. I won't bother posting the 3rd one because I'm sure it's more of the same. Still curious; would these knockoffs flow similar to the real things? The real ones flow about 60lb/min from what I have read. I'm guessing the 9 blade one would flow a bit less than that?
 

JusMX141

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Dec 13, 2005
Greensburg, Pennsylvania
The 9-blade compressor is the "newest" tech but it's the one everybody can't wait to get rid of because it surges like a bi***. The 10-blade (5-major, 5-minor) older GTP38 compressor is the one everybody wants, and some diesel vendors label as a "wicked wheel" even though it's just a stock compressor from a 94-98 GTP38.

I have no clue what that 12-blade (6-major, 6-minor) wheel you have there is....likely just a Chinese revision of the stock wheel to get around copyright laws or something.
 

Chumpaumpalumpa

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Jun 16, 2014
La Habra, California
The 9-blade compressor is the "newest" tech but it's the one everybody can't wait to get rid of because it surges like a bi***. The 10-blade (5-major, 5-minor) older GTP38 compressor is the one everybody wants, and some diesel vendors label as a "wicked wheel" even though it's just a stock compressor from a 94-98 GTP38.

I have no clue what that 12-blade (6-major, 6-minor) wheel you have there is....likely just a Chinese revision of the stock wheel to get around copyright laws or something.
Great, that's all good to know. Thank you very much.
 

Mikr

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Jun 4, 2015
mesa, Arizona
I need help identifying this turbo, thought it was suppose to be a 20g but from the serial numbers I am confused.

On the Hot side:
(mitsubishi symbol) 78-13700 070 p5 2s/X26
On the Cold side:
TDO5 A3 (1K) (6/0) S k301011 49178-01410

The turbo looks ported with duel fins also.
We're going to need photos or compressor specs at the very least. You gave us the turbine housing part number from an Evo III 16G and the compressor housing part number from a 14B.
 

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Chumpaumpalumpa

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Jun 16, 2014
La Habra, California
It's a big 16G. You have a 16G style wheel.
We're going to need photos or compressor specs at the very least. You gave us the turbine housing part number from an Evo III 16G and the compressor housing part number from a 14B.
That serial number can also apply to big 16G's too can't it?
The 49178-01410 turbos are 14B's, also. I have more than one at my shop.
 
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lasthope05

Proven Member
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Mar 31, 2006
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
That Turbo is most definitely not a 16g. Thats looks like a turbo lab cast 20g conversion. The polished and milled inlet is a dead give away.
 

BogusSVO

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Jul 1, 2009
Pensacola, Florida
Came off a 2014 Sonata and has a flange (no pic of flange). low mileage warranty turbo, no shaft play.
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Just trying to find a bit of info out and if it worth picking up.
 

YUPOK

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Aug 13, 2013
Riverdale, New_Jersey
It looks like a K04 turbo off a Volvo. If you could take a few more pics of the hot side flanges it would help. If it is a K04 they are good turbo's. Do you want to put this on a DSM?
 

YUPOK

Proven Member
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Aug 13, 2013
Riverdale, New_Jersey
That makes sense and I completely missed his post that said it came off a sonata. Still good turbo.
 

JusMX141

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Dec 13, 2005
Greensburg, Pennsylvania
Came off a 2014 Sonata and has a flange (no pic of flange). low mileage warranty turbo, no shaft play.
Standard TD04 13T rotating assembly- roughly the same potential as a DSM 13G, Subie 13T, and a few Saab/Volvo turbos of the same size which were also built by Mitsubishi. :)
 
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