The Top DSM Community on the Web

For 1990-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser, and Galant VR-4 Owners. Log in to remove most ads.

  • Join the Community!

    DSMtuners is a massive archive of DSM information - but more importantly, it's a COMMUNITY! Join in and participate with other DSMers, and invite all of your DSM friends to make this place their home. Chat with others, create a build thread, post questions and answers. Get involved! Logging in will also remove many of the advertisements, along with this notice. ;) It will also allow you to view images in threads.

Please Support Rix Racing
Please Support ExtremePSI

water pump and balance shaft???

DCGuerrette89

Proven Member
70
0
Aug 24, 2011
Terryville, Connecticut
ok so my water pump is starting to leak and i know it needs to be replaced but before i go and do the water pump and timing belt i was woundering if there was any way to tell if the balance shafts were removed already with out taking it apart because if there still there i wanted to do that when i do the water pump.
and also are there any recamendations for brands to look at and any oil pump upgrade while im in there?


thank you
 

iugrad92turbo

Supporting Member
12,898
818
May 22, 2007
Kalamazoo, Michigan
OEm oil pump dont chance it, pull the timing cover off and see if the belt is there, only way to visually see it, thats it wp i use store ones never used a oem one ran them since 94 in my dsms never a issue with wp failure, but look at vendors for prices for your build a oem oil pump.
 

RWD4G63

Proven Member
475
134
Dec 7, 2011
Paw Paw, Michigan
Yeah you'll just have to remove the timing cover and check if the belt is still there for the balance shaft. That's really the only way to tell.

Go with an OEM oil pump and whatever brand water pump has the best warranty ;)
 

DCGuerrette89

Proven Member
70
0
Aug 24, 2011
Terryville, Connecticut
dosent the belt that drives the oil pump drive the BS too? and you talkin about the timing cover on the side of the block not on the top with the valve covor right?

thank you for the help so far guys
 

9!'clipseDOHC

Moderator
4,837
230
Aug 24, 2003
El Paso, Texas
dosent the belt that drives the oil pump drive the BS too?

No. The balance shaft belt only turns the balance shafts off the crank as you can see in this picture: (The crankshaft sprocket is in the center, the balance shaft sprocket is circled in the top left of the picture, and the oil pump sprocket is circled in the lower right of the picture.)

You must be logged in to view this image or video.


The timing belt turns the camshafts and the oil pump off the crank as seen in this picture: (note that the balance shafts are removed in this picture)

You must be logged in to view this image or video.


and you talkin about the timing cover on the side of the block not on the top with the valve covor right?

Yes, they are talking about the one and only timing cover on the side of the block.
 

DCGuerrette89

Proven Member
70
0
Aug 24, 2011
Terryville, Connecticut
and to take the covor off does the engine need to come out or what and there is a BS behind the oil pump right but if the other one is removed so is the one behind the oil pump correct
sorry for the stupid questions
 

TSIturbo91

Proven Member
452
0
Dec 19, 2009
Oswegatchie, New_York
I am in the middle of the same project. Go OEM on timing components I went to JNZ tuning. I picked a gates water pump. And BSE kit should be OEM too. eBay kits can kill. Lower timing cover will come off with motor in. I would double check balance shafts. Some people only take the back one out and some just cut the belt. My belt broke a while ago and I never notice it. But I am doing a BSE anyway to do I right.

It was recommended that I redo valve cover gasket and cam seals. But my timing case is in a bad way with grime and coolant. Water pump leaked into it and pulleys chewed through the cover.
 

lancedsm

Proven Member
46
0
Oct 26, 2011
Claremore, Oklahoma
and to take the covor off does the engine need to come out or what

No the engine doesn't need to be pull out the cover is a pain to pull off but it will come off it will be pulled out from the bottom of the engine


there is a BS behind the oil pump right but if the other one is removed so is the one behind the oil pump correct
sorry for the stupid questions

(BS mean the bull shit hole LOL) hole (has a bolt in it) is on the back side of the engine kinda by the oil pump i say its 3'' above the oil pan take the bolt out and put a screwdriver in it if the screwdriver goes all the way in then you don't have balancing shafts if the screwdriver goes in a 1/4''of the way or a little more then you have balancing shafts. hope this helps
 
Support Vendors who Support the DSM Community
Boosted Fabrication ECM Tuning ExtremePSI Fuel Injector Clinic Jacks Transmissions JNZ Tuning Kiggly Racing Morrison Fabrications MyMitsubishiStore.com RixRacing RockAuto RTM Racing STM Tuned VR Speed Factory

Latest posts

Build Thread Updates

Latest Classifieds

Top