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GRNDSM

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May 16, 2002
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Hope you guys have some time… I finally had some time to give you a complete description of this:

Following winning this contest, I started my communication with Extreme Turbo in early January, they told me right a way that they do not have any GT turbos at that moment and will not have any “for a while”. Instead, they offered to me their ETE52, which they could ship right a way.

My initial thought, was: “Hey, I can just take that turbo, sell it and then buy a GT turbo that rally wanted”. But I also knew that this wouldn’t be right, it is certainly not what the contest was all about.

So instead, I politely declined their offer, saying that I ran a turbo slightly larger than ETE52 last year. That is when ET started their search for a GT turbo to give me. Unfortunately, they were not successful at finding the turbo that I wanted.

Here is the basic problem: This contest was set-up by the original DSM Performance and Extreme Turbo (and fabrications) more than a year ago. Since then, ATR bought out this business but kept the name of Extreme Turbo and DSM Performance. These are NOT the same people who started the contest. However, they decided to go ahead with the contest last November/December, IMHO not fully understanding what it entailed…

They had no GT turbos and no apparent desire to sponsor a DSM. But here I was, a winner of their GT turbo and their “12 month sponsorship”…

So far, this does not speak well of ET…

Clearly, there was a miscommunication on their part, which allowed this contest to proceed under its original terms. That is one of those things that just happens, every business can make a mistake. What separates a good business from a bad business is how they handle their mistakes. Well, ATR/ET stuck to their shop’s word to provide me a turbo, it is not a GT Turbo, as was originally promised, but these are not the original people who made the promise.

I ended up with a new, “fully loaded” ETE52 turbo with an install kit. Total value of this package is around $1600. Or about as much as what most other shops charge for a basic GT turbo. So as far as I am concerned, they did fine by me and they have been very accommodating though out this process. I would like to thank Sherry, Andrea and George at Extreme Turbo for their very professional handling of this contest despite less than ideal circumstances! You really have to applaud their commitment to seeing this through and not falling back on an excuse that this was all set-up by previous owners and trying to walk away.

So there is no sponsorship, I just get the turbo with which I can do what I whish. That is fine with me as I have just about everything I could want for the car anyway. :)

But here is my next problem, what am I going to do with this turbo?

It is:

-smaller than the T3/T4 60-1 turbo that I ran last year and roughly the same as Frank5 that I also ran last year
-not a GT series
-Does not have ball bearings

On top of it all, I am no longer required to install it for a dyno run and a ¼ mile pass as was specified in the original contest outline.

After carefully weighing all of my options, I decided to sell it and buy a turbo that I originally wanted: a GT series ball bearing turbo… I sort of feel like a jerk for doing this, but I really see no point in trying out this turbo at this time.

I would like to thank everyone who has voted for me in this contest and want to assure you that I am going to end up with a GT series style turbo that most of you wanted to see me run.

Thanks!

Leon
RR
 
Man that sucks its going to be hard to sell a turbo made by extreme turbo, I hate to say I knew it but I honestly did. I cant see how that place stays in business, they must operate at a loss at this point.
 
Well, I have a personal assurance of ET's current owner that this turbo does, in fact, have 360 deg bearing. I know that there have been many people in the past who got 270 deg bearings, instead of advertised 360 deg bearings. But I am willing to give the new management the benefit of a doubt, unit it is proven otherwise…

Leon
RR
 
To each their own.

In the last year there has been SO many new turbos pop up that you never know what's next.

It is getting harder and harder to choose. Forced Performance, Extreme Turbo, APG, Slow Boy, Bullseye. who knows whats next.

Hope you get what you are looking for. LAter
 
You could always just give the turbo to someone who cant afford one......i am in um no way refering to me...

But good luck on the GT hunt, and sorry to hear that they was not able to get you what you really wanted.
 
Thanks for the update.

It sucks that it couldn't work out how it did.

In your situation I would sell the turbo you did recive as well to get what you really wanted.
 
Originally posted by 9DTSiAWD
You could always just give the turbo to someone who cant afford one......i am in um no way refering to me...
he's referring to me-- in my quest for a daily driven auto dsm to beat the crap out of v-8's at the track...along with our local DSM "fast guys" (bros.) :D
But good luck on the GT hunt, and sorry to hear that they was not able to get you what you really wanted.
Yeah man, you do have a nice ride, and i bet you'll love a nice GT as well:thumb:
 
That's pretty much how I would've done it.
 
Sorry to drag up this old topic but there have been some developments… I sold this turbo to a friend of a friend early last summer. This winter (he still has not installed it), I had him send it to SBR to check if it had 270 deg or 360 thrust bearing. As it turns out, despite their insistence this was a 360 deg turbo (believe me, I made a BIG deal about it and had a personal guarantee from, then, Extreme Turbo owner!), it ended up having the same 270 deg thrust bearing that cost them their reputation in the first place!

Since I sold it to this friend of a friend as a “360 deg turbo”, I am going to have it converted to what it was supposed to be in the first place.

Oh well, I can’t complain too much, as this turbo was free and that company is no longer around, but I just thought you might want to know…

Leon
RR
 
I agree. When you lie to the people that fund your business and fill your payroll(obviously not Leon in this case, but I doubt it's the first and only time), you deserve whatever bad happens to you from that point on.
 
Originally posted by GRNDSM
Sorry to drag up this old topic but there have been some developments… I sold this turbo to a friend of a friend early last summer. This winter (he still has not installed it), I had him send it to SBR to check if it had 270 deg or 360 thrust bearing. As it turns out, despite their insistence this was a 360 deg turbo (believe me, I made a BIG deal about it and had a personal guarantee from, then, Extreme Turbo owner!), it ended up having the same 270 deg thrust bearing that cost them their reputation in the first place!

Since I sold it to this friend of a friend as a “360 deg turbo”, I am going to have it converted to what it was supposed to be in the first place.

Oh well, I can’t complain too much, as this turbo was free and that company is no longer around, but I just thought you might want to know…

Leon
RR

Thats shady of them that they did that to you.
Did you contact them to let them know that it wasnt a 360deg bearing?
 
There is no one to contact anymore... Portera Motorsports now owns extremeturbo domain, but it once again different set of people. DSM performance is now owned by spammers (do not go there!) So we are now, 3 people removed from who originally set-up that contest.

No big deal, I am going to cover the cost of conversion and call it the day.

Leon
RR
 
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