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TERRIBLE suspension noise! Please Help!

FlamingWeasel

Proven Member
103
0
Aug 25, 2002
California
Okay, here's my dilemma. I've had this annoying suspension noise for a while now. For at least 5 months. It sounds like something's loose in the back suspension wise. If i hit a small bump, or go across uneven road, the back of the car rattles. It sounds like something's loose. It is a kind of rattling combined with a squeak that only happens on rough, uneven roads or small bumps. I thought it was the shocks/springs at first. The stock shocks, when i took them out, were obviously not useable. They would compress and would not depress. However, when i replaced the shock and the spring. The problem still existed. I'm wondering if the blown shocks could have somehow broken something else on my rear suspension. And i'm also wondering if i should go in for an alignment now and see if that fixes it. This is because i THINK it might be the shock/spring hitting the wishbone shaped arm/assembly that goes around the shock/spring because there's only about a little less than an inch of clearance between the spring and that assembly. However, if i get an alignment and discover the problem to orginate from somewhere else, i'll have to get the car aligned again after i alter the components. If anyone has had this problem, or has any ideas as to the possible cause of this problem, please tell me. This is getting truly mad. Also, I've shaken each component on my suspension and none seem to be loose or wobbling. Thanks in advance for your help.
 

97GSTURBO

Proven Member
1,048
0
Aug 16, 2002
B.F.E._AZ
SEARCH! The ratteling is usually caused by one of the wires in the hatch ratteling around on a panel. Pull the panels on your hatch and see if you've got any wires hanging. If you do, Duct tape is your friend! :thumb:
 

Doug99RS

DSM N/T Wiseman
DSM Wiseman
2,022
16
Nov 10, 2002
Raleigh, North_Carolina
OK. If I'm reading this right you've got two different noises that happen at the same time. One is a squeek and the other is a rattle of sorts. Both happen when the suspension is loaded then unloaded.

I'm just looking at your info on the right and all it says is a 2gnt Is it a GS, or an RS with a rear sway bar?

If it is:
Do this. Go over a speed bump head on squared up to it. Do this slowly. See if you hear the squeek when the rear wheels meet and travel over the bump. Then, go at the speed bump at an angle. See if the knocking/rattle noise then appears.

What I suspect are two different problems both relating to a sway bar issue. The squeek may be dried out sway bar bushings. The second knocking/rattle noise may be the sway bar link ball joints. The 96-00 chrysler minivans are notorious for making both noises. Replacement of the bushings and links is the normal procedure for high milage cars. On lower mileage cars the bushings can be lubed with grease but the links still need replacing.

To determine if this is the problem, you can remove the sway bar (rear) from the car. See if your noise goes away. If it does then you know it's related to your bushings and probably your links as well. If the problem does not go away then you at least know your bushings and links are good.

If you have no sway bar on the rear... uh. I'll think of something else.
Doug
 

FlamingWeasel

Proven Member
103
0
Aug 25, 2002
California
Also, It's not any of the wires, i know that for a fact. I've tried the taping thing to no avail.
 

leafpave

Proven Member
7
0
Nov 9, 2002
gillette_wyoming
I seem to have the same problem on my 91'. I began noticing it right after I lowered it. All new struts and susp. tech springs. It seems like every time I lift the car off the ground it stops then slowly goes away. I have yet to try the sway bar. but I am going to try soon. My gues(even though our suspensions are differant) is the springs in upside down. I honestly dont know, but will try to keep in touch.
 

Defiant

DSM Wiseman
34,772
167
Jan 13, 2003
glorious Galt, California
Originally posted by FlamingWeasel
I've had this annoying suspension noise for a while now. For at least 5 months. It sounds like something's loose in the back suspension wise.
Glad you're all over that, in case it's something fiddly like a wheel about to fall off.

Check the suspension bushings, and make sure the shock mount is tight.
 

leafpave

Proven Member
7
0
Nov 9, 2002
gillette_wyoming
well after a new sway bar and new bushings the noise just got a little quiter and happens less often. Now I'm totaly stumped. I'm wondering if 1g's and 2g's have something in common with each other in this problem.
 

Doug99RS

DSM N/T Wiseman
DSM Wiseman
2,022
16
Nov 10, 2002
Raleigh, North_Carolina
Does the the sway bar link incorporate a ball joint type sway bar link or is it like a threaded section-nut-bushing-bar-bushing bushing lower control arm-bushing-nut-threaded section? I'm just wondering if going in there and disturbing any of the suspension may have changed the noise. If it has sway bar links with ball joints in them, you may want to replace them.
Doug
 

leafpave

Proven Member
7
0
Nov 9, 2002
gillette_wyoming
I bet your right. Its the only thing left that could do that, thats in the sway bar. Guess I'll run down to napa tomaro. Hopefully there not to expensive.
 

leafpave

Proven Member
7
0
Nov 9, 2002
gillette_wyoming
well napa, checkers, and car quest dont even make the part. I literaly went through three wrong oreders to figure it out. I pulled the bar and bushings again and re-greased them with a high grade lithium grease and the noise was almost gone. Untill today when it rained it started to come back, but not nearly as bad. I still think its the endlinks. Thanks for all your help!
 
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