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Street Build #Sleeper_Beauty

Year:
1998
Model/Trim:
Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
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  1. Ludachris

    Ludachris Founder & Zookeeper

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    Don't you just love how one project turns into 20 nearly every time you dig into something? The wiring and the brake lines aren't going to be an improvement you feel, but the suspension and subframe bushing updates will be. The car will feel so much better because of that. I bet your fab skills are improving every day with all of the custom work you're doing.
     

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    1997 Eagle Talon TSi AWD (sold)
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    1991 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
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  2. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Yeah, the rear suspension was really unplanned. I wanted to do the bushings and coil overs... in 3 months. The rear diff bushings actually looked okay from afar - 100% misleading. The wiring and brakes may not help how it feels, but it will definitely help how I feel - as in I at least know that its safe and right. Add the OE brake hardlines to the list of things I'll never do myself again. Ever. When this thing blesses the ground it touches, I expect it to be a truly amazing experience.

    My fab skills are definitely growing, and I love that. I'm able to hook that into so many other projects now, too, and have no intentions of slowing that down.
     

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  3. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captains Log 07202020;

    Any one notice how hot it is outside? Its really hot outside. And it is slowing me down. Looks like the #6 rigid fuel line I'm using for the return is in the best place its going to get. Hoping to re-flare it today and mount the afpr. I'm going to have to lower the front subframe a little bit, my #8 send line has a permanent kink at the fitting due to poor bending technique. Not mad about it, plenty of line to work with, just need to pull it through and redo the flare.

    The rear subframe has new bushings, rear diff has new bushings - the POM's that GSX_Dude sells. The k-sport coil overs are lightly mounted to the body, for now. I'm so damn excited to see how this feels. But wait, there is more! My box of rear toe-arms from Rock Auto arrived today and I'm waiting on USPS to deliver the poly-bushing master kit from extremepsi, ETA is about 2 hours on that. So damn excited to see how this feels. Not excited about being in the heat to replace all the bushings, but meh. Slow and steady.

    I've also started running the wire I have for my battery relocation. I haven't spoken much about that, there is nothing really special about it, except I'm running the wire much like the fuel lines while the rear subframe is out. It feels like I'm counting down the days until "The Crankening" but it also feels like its never going to arrive.

    That is all I have for now. Roll credits.
     

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  4. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captain's log 07282020;

    Work on the suspension is so slow. I've received all of the bushings and arms that require replacement. I've got the bushings in for the sub-frame, diff, rear passenger side knuckle, upper control arm and .... what I believe to be called the rear toe arm? Its the rear arm with the ball joint. I actually have both of those with prothane bushings in them.

    Today, I've already started trying to remove the lower control arm from the sub-frame, so that I can replace those bushings as well - they're certainly bad though not the worst. While trying to remove the passenger side, the sway bar link fell apart. Another $50-you-to-death punch to the face. Already got replacement Moog's on the way from RockAuto. While this journey is exhausting in itself, the heat is certainly not helping. Even though its only 8:30am, its already too hot to handle more than 30 minutes out at a time. It feels like I'm never going to make progress on this and I'm becoming discouraged.

    I'm going to try to keep chipping away at this, so that maybe one day this year I can get things reassembled back there.

    Roll Credits.
     

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  5. Ludachris

    Ludachris Founder & Zookeeper

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    Dealing with old bushings and seized up bolts in 90 degree heat and high humidity can't be much fun. I remember burning out my bushings with a torch in the rainy (yet very mild temp) winter and it was a pain in the ass.
     

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  6. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Its soooooo miserable. I'm spending 20 to 30 minutes out at a time, coming in completely soaked and exhausted. Looks like I finally got all of the old out of the passenger side. I may try to video the driver side, dont know yet. It shouldn't take as long with the 'more right' tools. Sway bar links appear to want to arrive on Thursday - that is pretty decent ... and should conclude the adventures of a 'built rear suspension'.
     

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  7. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captains log, 08032020;

    This week, I struggle to get back into a routine of updating on Mondays. Mission success... this time. I spent most of my weekend exporting a migraine stimulating amount of effort from my back, shoulders, and arms directly to the remaining rear bushings. In addition to that work, I spent a lot of my week also doing the same. We're in a mostly good place now. The subframe is virtually ready to go back in. The lower control arms are really testing me, as pushing in the new bushings causes the end of the arm to deform slightly - easy enough to bend back into position. Would not recommend to friends and family, will likely look for something that isn't stamped metal for the future. Also .... keeping 3G eclipse rear end open as a possibility. Until then, we move along.

    While prepping everything to go back together, I took off the sway bar to install those bushings - they are the last ones to do. I'm not sure how to go about it just yet - the old ones are cut or split, making it easy to get on/off - new ones are solid..... and look like they slide on. Meh. I'll figure it out, I'm sure its documented here some where. The sway bar itself is pretty rusty. We're going to run it, for better or for worse, until I figure out what I'm doing next. Replace it with a larger one? Or again with the 3G rear? The future is uncertain. The new sway bar links are here, and MOOG isn't disappointing. They're looking quiet strong compared to what ever was there. OE? Autozone? Ebay? Who knows. I bent the bar trying to get them out. Don't think I'll be doing that with these replacements.

    I did get to spend some time away from the suspension drama long enough to work on the fuel system. Another test of mental, physical, emotional endurance. I had to cut my -8AN rigid send line at the front subframe because I kinked it not once but twice. I then had to lower said subframe enough to get the line back to where it should be. Looks like my next best course of action is actually to go braided from this point to the filter. I wanted to avoid that... but it'll be fine. There is no gain or loss in either direction. I picked up a 90 degree -8AN fitting for the sending unit. Guess what. Too tall. Doesn't clear the metal pan/cap under the seat. No surprise and because I expected that, I only bought one of them. I think what I'm going to do with this is cut a small hole in that metal plate around the 'working area' of the fitting, and weld up a slightly higher spot that clears the unit ... yet still hopefully large enough that it doesn't interfere with the seat. Honestly, I don't like a lot of passengers, but my kids do ride back there. I need it safe for them to be back there. At the end of the day, none of these are show-stoppers, just more work. More unexpected work. More delays. Sigh.

    Picture time.
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    Roll credits.
     

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  8. ThunderChild

    ThunderChild Supporting VIP

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    I dig the perseverance. Keep at it, sometimes you'll beat your head against the wall, then turn around with raised hands of joy on the DSM roller coaster of love/hate.

    It's all worth it in the end if you asked me!
     

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  9. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captain's Log 08102020;

    Waiting on parts. This is the story of my life. Not a lot to update with today.

    The eccentric bolts for the rear arms with ball joints are also seized in the bushing. I've torched them, I've hammered them. I'm sawing them. It sucks. Also waiting for new bolts, which should be here this week.

    In other news, my figure skating coach has me learning my basic jumps and spins. Jumps are terrifying, spins are fun. I photographed a wedding on Saturday, which left my arms and shoulders sore and in muscle failure. Guess I need to lay under the car with more tools for more hours. Bleh.

    Roll Credits.
     

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  10. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captains Log 08132020;

    The week just doesn't seem to end, not sure if that is a good thing or a bad. I got my bolts for the rear end, thankfully. How ever, I did have to take a saw to the old ones to get them out. Using a carbide blade and some cutting fluid, I cut as close as I could to the inside parts. Arms fell out, as expected. I had to take a torch to the sleeve and light'er up to get the rest of it apart. Easier done than said. I put a short video together the most of that work, as well as me using the jack as leverage to pop some other bolts loose. Seeing that it worked, I both chuckled and felt proud at the same time.

    So today, I'm spending the most of my time putting the subframe back in. At the time of this post, I have the driver side to completely re-assembly, and I need to bolt up the the u-joint of the drive shaft. Then add exhaust. I'm feeling pretty good about this, finally. Just in time to see my shopping cart crying at $300 in fittings just to finish the fuel system, oil and coolant lines. Whoops. Yeah, we'll have to see about all of that.



    Roll credits.
     

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  11. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captains Log 08242020;

    Made a bit of progress over the last few days - mostly over the weekend. Skating has taken up a great deal of my time outside of work. Its a double edge sword because I spend too much time in the car due to only having one car to do any work to the second car. But I'm getting stuff done.

    I spent virtually all day Saturday in the garage. I decided that instead of trying to source some second hand grade 10 bolts for the suspension from donor/parts cars, 1g parts I have sitting around, and so on - I would be better off just ordering some new ones. They're bolts. They aren't expensive. And they hold wheels to cars. It was important enough to me. I ordered 3 total to account for the three that I rounded off from the 2 sides. I ended up taking all of my original bolts and using them to go ahead and assemble the passenger side, used the new bolts on the driver side.

    Re-assembly of the driver side wasn't really 'easier', but it went by in less time. I do still need to toque everything to spec. For the passenger side..... well I was trying to mount up the brakes. Once I got everything mostly together, I tried to push in the piston to get it to clear the last tiny bit of brake pad. No go. Totally wouldn't move. I assumed that the reason for this was that the way the line was pinched off, perhaps there was a vacuum on the it and I could just release the bleeder valve. Lol... just release it, eh? I released it alright - into two pieces, only to have a ball of rust staring back at me. motherf*r. Turns out, both sides are f'd. Lucky me, RockAuto was running a special on powder coated stoptech's, and they arrived today.

    In other news, I got all of the new bushings installed on the front components. I waited as long as I could to not move on to that buts time. I also got some TorqueSolutions carrier bearing bushings for the drive shaft. The ones that came off weren't 'bad', but they looked tired and definitely didn't have the firmness that the bushings have every where else. It made sense to just do it now. I applied my final rust treatment to the inside of the driver wheel well to protect the welds I had to make. Undercoating goes on tomorrow.

    Lastly, I did something that I hope I don't beat myself up over later. I spent $120 out of pocket on some evilenergy AN kits on Amazon. These things are cheap. I mean, really cheap. I'll have to check several times for leaks once everything is together. How ever, that is really a problem I have at the moment. The -8AN rigid send line is just kinking up every time I try to route it to the filter. I've decided to have a short run of cheap line there to fix that issue. I got the 8AN and the 4AN kits which included several fittings. The best part of it is, as long as it holds for a while, I can always replace it with quality one section at a time if/as needed.

    No pictures today, I want to save that for when the tires are reinstalled on the rear, which I'm aiming for this week to do. We'll see. Roll Credits.
     

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  12. TK's9d2TSi

    TK's9d2TSi Supporting Member

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    Was that an fd? If so, any plans for it?
     

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  13. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    YES! That is a 94 FD, with a 13BREW, stock twins. No specific plans yet, other than to get the drive train back together. Good eye :D
     

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  14. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captain's Log 08302020;

    Whew. What a weekend. If it were a battle ground, I would be marching home, victoriously drinking mead from the skulls of my enemies. But it wasn't that and instead, I sit on my couch enjoying a milk shake. The past few days have been hyper-focused on getting the car ready to roll out of the garage, running or not.

    Friday night, I managed to get the driver suspension assembled. I wasn't able to get everything snugged down until Saturday - which is also the day I tightened up everything on the passenger side too. I spent the major of both days trying to locate bolts and nuts since they've all run away since being freed.

    Saturday, I also got everything on the brakes correct. The rear brakes had been on for a few days, but I realized that I reversed what sides they were supposed to be on. I thought the bleeder valves should point down - it would make perfect sense so that the fluid would drain straight down, not hurt anything. How ever, I didn't account for the bleeder valve being the highest point of air collection and that should be closest to the bleeders. Easy fix, simple swap. I also got the clutch slave cylinder on today. Not a lot to talk about there.

    Today, I actually put the wheels on. Dudes, the wheels are on the car. The circus isn't over yet, though. I had used some lift extenders to raise the car off the life a little higher than normal. The lift has these and they lock into to place to prevent an unsafe situation from coming down. Once off the jack stands, I got the exhaust some what in place, also. Things are looking great - time to lay it down.

    Or so you'd think. As the lift folded into itself and lowered the car, the wheels started to hug the ground. Once all the way down, the lift stopped moving.... but the car still has weight on the arms. :| :| :| :| Because ..... the coil overs are lowering the car too much. Now, I think its actually at ride height, or pretty close, but there is still enough weight that it's stuck. Maybe best described as a 'docked' position. I think if i were to raise it up and place a 2x4 under each tire, the lift would clear, and I could remove the extenders - allowing the car to roll free. Even off the 2x4's, i think itll (barely) clear the lift.

    So what is left?
    Plumbing the rest of the fuel system
    Plumbing oil cooler
    Plumbing the vac/boost lines
    Plumbing the coolant lines (Yep, all of them)
    Assembling the power steering lines
    Some work on the upper intake piping
    Finishing the main lines of the battery relocation
    Secure shifter linkage and bushings
    Bolting up the down pipe.

    With the car officially being on its own weight again, at least mostly, all of these little things feel super manageable. There is my update, picture time.

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  15. ThunderChild

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    Great milestone!
     

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  16. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Captain's Log 09102020;

    Progress has slowed down a bit. I've been terrified of working on my own intake piping. In an attempt to distract and not deal with that right now - I turned my attention else where and made this video. Enjoy.

     

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  17. TK's9d2TSi

    TK's9d2TSi Supporting Member

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    Glad I'm not the only one that wire brushes old bolts LOL. Nice catch btw OMG:thumb:
     

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  18. SlipknotSmoothi

    SlipknotSmoothi Proven Member

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    Thanks! Its hard to see the grade stamp if the head is all caked in grease ... and you can't get a good thread lock if the threads are dirty - So I chased every threaded hole I could find, I brushed every bolt I used LOLoLOL Hoped you like the video!
     

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