Shearer or Full Race??

[L2RTSiAWD]

Lets stay on topic. Anymore, bickering from members or other vendors will get this thread locked.

Any wild claims as to who makes more power will get this locked.

So far I haven't seen any real information in this thread.

 

[PSI2HI]

Lets stay on topic. Anymore, bickering from members or other vendors will get this thread locked.

Any wild claims as to who makes more power will get this locked.

So far I haven't seen any real information in this thread.

Is there no real information to be posted, either manifold is going to perform great and be plenty durable, what more information is there to be posted? It comes down to personal prefrence.

Shearer, do you have any mock up pics of your top mount? I'd like to see your design and how you laid it out.

 

[PSI2HI]

I am using a South Florida Performance mani made out of mild steel. Design looks decent, although some of the angles exiting the exhaust ports on the head do not seem ideal. I ran this mani with an N1 downpipe, which was secured to the block. The T3 flange cracked along the back side of the collector. I was able to get it replaced through SFP with some difficulty, however I see the same thing happening again.

Dan

I've seen that commonly on SFP manifolds, mostly due to the fact that their mig welded. The do use a lot of odd angle to get things to line up as the don't really use a true merge collector.

 

[Scrymerr]

I've seen that commonly on SFP manifolds, mostly due to the fact that their mig welded. The do use a lot of odd angle to get things to line up as the don't really use a true merge collector.

Yea, whatever. It came with my kit and I would like a "real" one but cannot afford it at the moment.

And as far as more information in this thread: do any of you guys backpurge the mani's when constructing?

Dan

 

[PSI2HI]

Yea, whatever. It came with my kit and I would like a "real" one but cannot afford it at the moment.

And as far as more information in this thread: do any of you guys backpurge the mani's when constructing?

Dan

We have a few different flange plates w/ nozzles mounted in them for purging.

 

[DSM90AWD]

And as far as more information in this thread: do any of you guys backpurge the mani's when constructing

Are you a welder or did you pick up the "Performance Welding" book? These guys are and do this for a living. You do know that there are better/easier ways to keep the backside weld free of contamination and strong using flux.

Stainless Steel Flux A powder flux for gas-welding stainless steels and other chromium-nickel alloys. Especially formulated for welding both the 300 and 400 series of stainless steel. Promotes excellent weld joints; the glassy residue is self cleaning, exposing clean and bright metal. Applications include industrial equipment and maintenance.

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Backside StainFlux A powder flux used on the back-side of stainless steel, with MIG or TIG welding. It is designed to take the place of an argon purge or ceramic backup tape. This flux increases weld penetration, reduces oxide inclusions, and significantly improves the quality of the weld. Applications include appliances, food and restaurant equipment, paper-making machinery, and maintenance.

A better question would be what grade/gauge Stainless is being used, though whatever it is, it must work well as I've not heard of failures in either.

 

[Shearer]

Slowimport,
Yes we can provide you with a downpipe. If you decide to go with a DSM Replacement manifold or a T3 manifold we can supply you with an o2 housing that will work with any aftermarket downpipe as long as it can bolt to a stock style o2 housing.

Scrymerr, yes we backpurge all manifolds.

PSI2HI, I have some crappy cel phone pictures laying around somewhere. I'll dig them up.

DSM90AWD, we do not use Solar Flux. Backpurging with an inert gas is the most efficient way to get the job done. All of our producion manifolds use a heavy wall 304L pipe for construction. Custom thin wall manifolds use 321 Stainless.

 

[Shearer]

Here are the pics you asked for. This is the first production piece, there will be some minor design diferences in the folowing units.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/5.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/4.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/3.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/2.jpg

This is our divided T4 manifold. It will fit any T4 turbo up to the GT42 housings, and requires no hacking of the the compressor outlet to fit. It allows the use of a full 4" downpipe, 3" hot side I/C Pipe, and 5" intake. All behind the stock radiator. The only drawbacks are that a alternator relocator kit is required on the 1g's with use of the 4" downpipe, which is commonly available through me or Buschur Racing. I may also have a relocation kit available for 2g's shortly. Also 2g's using this manifold will require a 1g style raditor inlet, and those who use a gt42 may have to swap out to a half radiator.

 

[PSI2HI]

Here are the pics you asked for. This is the first production piece, there will be some minor design diferences in the folowing units.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/5.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/4.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/3.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/2.jpg

This is our divided T4 manifold. It will fit any T4 turbo up to the GT42 housings, and requires no hacking of the the compressor outlet to fit. It allows the use of a full 4" downpipe, 3" hot side I/C Pipe, and 5" intake. All behind the stock radiator. The only drawbacks are that a alternator relocator kit is required on the 1g's with use of the 4" downpipe, which is commonly available through me or Buschur Racing. I may also have a relocation kit available for 2g's shortly. Also 2g's using this manifold will require a 1g style raditor inlet, and those who use a gt42 may have to swap out to a half radiator.

Looks pretty good. You mentioned u can run a 3" ic pipe on the hot side, is the clearance to do a back door style IC on w/ the large downpipe on the drivers side? That is the reason primarily i put the turbo facing the drivers side when i did mine.

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[99redgst]

Here are the pics you asked for. This is the first production piece, there will be some minor design diferences in the folowing units.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/5.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/4.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/3.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/2.jpg

This is our divided T4 manifold. It will fit any T4 turbo up to the GT42 housings, and requires no hacking of the the compressor outlet to fit. It allows the use of a full 4" downpipe, 3" hot side I/C Pipe, and 5" intake. All behind the stock radiator. The only drawbacks are that a alternator relocator kit is required on the 1g's with use of the 4" downpipe, which is commonly available through me or Buschur Racing. I may also have a relocation kit available for 2g's shortly. Also 2g's using this manifold will require a 1g style raditor inlet, and those who use a gt42 may have to swap out to a half radiator.

So someone may finally offer an alternator relocation kit for a 2g. I've been waiting for this for years. Please keep us updated on the progress of this. Getting back on topic, Victory Performance is now making tubular manifolds which they guarantee for life of the original owner. However I can't say I've been very impressed with their customer service in the past.

 

[SlowImport]

Here are the pics you asked for. This is the first production piece, there will be some minor design diferences in the folowing units.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/5.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/4.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/3.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/ShearerFab/2.jpg

This is our divided T4 manifold. It will fit any T4 turbo up to the GT42 housings, and requires no hacking of the the compressor outlet to fit. It allows the use of a full 4" downpipe, 3" hot side I/C Pipe, and 5" intake. All behind the stock radiator. The only drawbacks are that a alternator relocator kit is required on the 1g's with use of the 4" downpipe, which is commonly available through me or Buschur Racing. I may also have a relocation kit available for 2g's shortly. Also 2g's using this manifold will require a 1g style raditor inlet, and those who use a gt42 may have to swap out to a half radiator.

What is the ballpark that you think these manifolds are going to cost? I really would love to have a 4" downpipe, so how much for a manifold and 4" downpipe combo?

thanks,
Josh

 

[BoostinAWD]

That topmount manifold is just what I've been looking for. Anticipating the day it's available, or can I get one now

4" downpipe is just a tad over what I'm looking to be using though. Maybe more along the lines of 3 1/2. With 3" to and from the intercooler. Q45 throttle body.

 

[Shearer]

Here are some higher resolution pictures...

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This is shown here with an unfinished 4" dowpipe. The 4" is going to require the use of the forward facing oil filter housing and relocation of the alternator. A 3.5" version will fit with standard style filter housings. Pricing is going to be $1300 for the manifold with a single or twin Tial gates.

 

[nanokpsi]

Does that mean you are going to do an alternator relocation kit for the 2gs? The manifold looks really nice! Looks like the stock radiator may be kept as well. The 42r has a 4" outlet though correct?

 

[coltboostin]

Does that mean you are going to do an alternator relocation kit for the 2gs? The manifold looks really nice! Looks like the stock radiator may be kept as well. The 42r has a 4" outlet though correct?

5inch inlet and 3 inch outlet on the compressor side. 4inch exaust outlet. The DP is a full 4 inches. Yes, it does fit with stock radiator placement, which is nearly unheard of.