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BLACK'98DSM

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I know they make aftermarket oil pan gaskets, but from the factory isn’t it just silicone?

That’s a big pile of heads! I wonder how do they keep up with all that
I'm not sure how it is from the factory, but there was a gasket when I took it apart. And yea it must be tough on those guys at the shop. For the past few years it's always been at least a week wait time for a full head service, I've even been told 3 weeks before.
 

BLACK'98DSM

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I restored the driver side headlight today. Will hopefully get the passenger side done tomorrow. I'm also considering swapping to LED bulbs as well but I haven't even seen the brightness and light pattern of the original bulbs yet.

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1990TSIAWDTALON

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BLACK'98DSM

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That seems quite similar to the process on a 2g. I didn't have to damage my connectors though. They fit right on the bulbs. I'll have to double check but those even sound like the same type of bulbs used in a 2g? If that's the case I'll try to remember which brand I bought and just re-order them.
 

BLACK'98DSM

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I thought so. So in theory I won't have to modify anything to swap over, if I can find the same ones I used in my 2g. I remember the low beams fit directly in but the high beams gave me a slight issue because of a cooling fan on the rear but I was still able to use the metal clip to hold it in firmly. If this plays out I might have to update Marty's thread! :thumb:
 

1990TSIAWDTALON

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I "think" you can get LED's now that don't have the fan, just a heat sink. When I put them in my 2004 Silverado, the product I used didn't have a fan. Also, the fans will sometimes interfere with radio signals.
Here are the lights I used in the truck. Not as bulky now days. :thumb:
On a 1g, one beam has to have the polarity switched but other than that, it was pretty simple but more bulky back when I did it to the DSM. These bulbs are BRIGHT!
 

BLACK'98DSM

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I just got a call from the machine shop. They said my head is cracked in multiple places and warped too badly to be resurfaced. Keep in mind it's been over a month since I dropped it off, and I had the car running fine before... I'm going to pick it up and have a look for myself. If what they're saying is true I might be in a hard spot with this car. I would imagine good heads for a 4g37 are few and far. Might end up doing a 4g63 swap just for convenience.
 

BLACK'98DSM

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It's been a while since I messed with the car but today I got something great from the junkyard. To my surprise there was a 92 Eclipse with a 4g37. So I grabbed the head from it. It looks like it was rebuilt very recently and I don't see any cracks. I think with a cleaning, checking and resurfacing this will work good on my engine. Before I found this head I was very deep in thoughts of doing a 4g63 swap LOL But I guess she'll keep the 4g37 this time around.


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I also bought a random floor mat while I was there to safely and cleanly transport it.
 

CrackedDSM

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If you 4G63n/a swap it, keep the transmission. It's the same between the two engines.

But, glad the yard had a good 1.8 head for it. My first DSM ever ever was a 5-speed 4G37 1.8, that had such low compression when I took the oil pan off, you could pull the crank down via the journal, BY HAND. God it smoked bad. Had to have made all of 30-45whp. Lol.

The 4G63 swap we did was nice, but honestly if I could do it again I'd have 4G63T swapped it and left it alone. 4G63T, with the stock 14B, and freemods/basic mods would run forever, get great gas mileage, and would rip.


And I personally would be hesitant to use Stevie Miller at all, especially with anything engine related. See my build thread for pictures of an engine he said was "0 miles, freshly rebuilt" that was far from it. Also responded to my pictures of wet oily exhaust ports with a "looks fine to me" and refused to do anything to make it right after I spent north of $2500 for it. So yeah, I'd stick with your local junkyards or classifieds.
 
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