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Next Mod, Opinions wanted?????

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firehawk said:
Theres nothing to tune...hes running stock 450's.


How exactically is it that because he still has stock injectors that there's "nothing to tune"? That's not even remotely true. So he can't go ahead and "tweak" his setting and get the car to run alittle better and pull out alittle more power?

I am also gonna get on the band wagon and say go for the link now if you can afford it. It's much more than just something to tune with.
 
Like I said before, he has narrowed it down to 2 options. He wants to know, option 1 or 2. Choose one or the other. He's obviously smart enough to know that DSMlink PWN3S and he wants to get that expensive step over with.

Just buy the oil pressure gauge regardless.
 
daren_p said:
I to would say go Dsmlink as well, no it won't make a huge difference right now but he can install it right now with no bad side effects, learn to use it & when he has the cash for the fuel system & then the turbo he can drop those parts right in as he'll have the supporting mods he needs. For the people saying DSMLink is pointless, he is in the process of upgrading everything so it is a good purchase to make now.

This is why I am thinking about purchasing it now. :thumb:
 
firehawk said:
If you are asking for your next "mod"....ONE mod...it has to be the oil pressure. Thats going to help you out no matter what you decide. As others have posted you need to figure out what turbo you plan on ending up with before you go buying too many parts. Are you one of those types of people who want to have a new setup every year? or are you one of those people who is going to upgrade once and be content with your setup. What are your goals.

OKay, my ultimate goal is to be running a FP3065, but I know I am NOWWHERERE near there. So during the winter I plan to upgrade to soem variant 50 trim(SBR G50, PTE 5031, etc). And I plan on maxing out the turbo. Gathering more supporting mods, build my motor on the side, and build a tranny on the side then eventually upgrade to a FP3065 in another year and half or two years.

Right now I am on the process on just buying all the supporting mods I need to run the 50 trim safely and effectily. Once I get all of them I will upgrade to a 50 trim. Try to max out the turbo buy buying other supporting mods. Then eventually upgrading to a FP3065.
 
90blacktsiawd said:
How exactically is it that because he still has stock injectors that there's "nothing to tune"? That's not even remotely true. So he can't go ahead and "tweak" his setting and get the car to run alittle better and pull out alittle more power?

700 some dollars to tweak a t25 on stock 450's?....enough said.

90blacktsiawd said:
It's much more than just something to tune with.

Sounds like a slogan...

DSMlink....It does all kinds of cool sh!t.

Honestly...other than tune...it does what?...nitrous...i dont see that being needed anytime soon. Logging...he already has that covered. Timing Control...im going to bet that is something he is not really trying to screw around with right now. So...basically in the near future he will use it for.....having a bigger screen to read his logs and to get that pesky little PDA out of the car.

Im sticking with oil pressure on this one. Other than that...why not upgrade so you can max out your t25? I can see if you have the 50trim in ## basement waiting to go on...but you dont. You dont know what is going to happen tomorrow..you could have financial troubles and not be able to get the 50trim. Im going to be a betting man again and say that atleast 75% of the people who had a "plan" to get something ended up going with something else and changed their mind countless times. If you NEED to spend money have fun with what you got infront of you....and thats the t25. Get some 550's or 650's...an afc1, intake a 1G throttle body (like was recommended) AND AN OIL PRESSURE GUAGE...ull spend the same amount on that as you would DSMlink...and probably be much happier NOW with that then you will with your DSMlink.
 
firehawk said:
Honestly...other than tune...it does what?


Well let's see, completely adjustable 3 step rev limiter, some of the best and easiest to read logging your going to find, how about being able to see knock for a change, reading and clearing CEL, and it's more than likely the end of his tuning needs. Why not just do it once and do it right? If he's planning to go as far as he says he's just going to end up why spend the money on an afc and 550's or 650's now only to have to replace all that later?

And an oil pressure gauge? There 50 bux off ebay with the sending unit. That can probably be done whenever. Not saying it's a bad thing to get but frankly he shouldn't even have to ask about getting that. And your right he probably would have more fun RIGHT NOW getting a fmic and a 1g throttle body and intake manifold (if he port matches the head of course) but then someone's going to bring the whole arguement of why bother putting a fmic on a t-2small. Same discussion we're having with a different part.

So what if he changes his mind down the road. Will it not still be a useful tool with a 16g and some 550's? It will be useful no matter what the setup though it will benefit some more than others. I've never claimed that he's going to get an extra 100 horses out of using the link now. If you believe that i'll just tell you to go slap a couple NOS stickers on your car and there you go :D.

It wouldn't be 700 dollars to tweak a t-25, thats only the immediate use. You say that as though he wouldn't have it anymore as he upgrades further with the car. No thats 700 dollars for tuning your car period.

And your quite right, that does sound like a slogan. Maybe i'll try to get the guys at ECM tuning to make it official :thumb:
 
firehawk said:
Get some 550's or 650's...an afc1, intake a 1G throttle body (like was recommended) AND AN OIL PRESSURE GUAGE...ull spend the same amount on that as you would DSMlink...and probably be much happier NOW with that then you will with your DSMlink.

I am not going to get afc nro 550's when later down the road I am going to upgrade them both. I want to buy it once, and won't need to worry about upgrading. But the 1g throttle body does soudn liek a good idea. But I will think about what everyone said, and make my decision sometime at the end of the week.

Anyone else have some opinions??
 
90blacktsiawd said:
Well let's see, completely adjustable 3 step rev limiter, some of the best and easiest to read logging your going to find, how about being able to see knock for a change, reading and clearing CEL, and it's more than likely the end of his tuning needs. Why not just do it once and do it right? If he's planning to go as far as he says he's just going to end up why spend the money on an afc and 550's or 650's now only to have to replace all that later?

And an oil pressure gauge? There 50 bux off ebay with the sending unit. That can probably be done whenever. Not saying it's a bad thing to get but frankly he shouldn't even have to ask about getting that. And your right he probably would have more fun RIGHT NOW getting a fmic and a 1g throttle body and intake manifold (if he port matches the head of course) but then someone's going to bring the whole arguement of why bother putting a fmic on a t-2small. Same discussion we're having with a different part.

So what if he changes his mind down the road. Will it not still be a useful tool with a 16g and some 550's? It will be useful no matter what the setup though it will benefit some more than others. I've never claimed that he's going to get an extra 100 horses out of using the link now. If you believe that i'll just tell you to go slap a couple NOS stickers on your car and there you go :D.

It wouldn't be 700 dollars to tweak a t-25, thats only the immediate use. You say that as though he wouldn't have it anymore as he upgrades further with the car. No thats 700 dollars for tuning your car period.

And your quite right, that does sound like a slogan. Maybe i'll try to get the guys at ECM tuning to make it official :thumb:

Good post:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
 
Honestly...other than tune...it does what?

I've already listed the value I place on Link based purely on its diagnostic capabilities. I've already learned that my front O2 sensor is dying, based solely on a 3rd gear pull log on DSMLink. I've learned that I got horrible phantom knock at 20% throttle in every gear between 2000 and 3500 rpm, and then DSMLink allowed me to FIX the problem by disabling the knock sensor before 3500 rpm. The car runs much smoother now. If you've forgotten what else it can do, maybe you should check the website and read some of the literature there.

700 some dollars to tweak a t25 on stock 450's?.

So? Even on the stock injectors, there's room to play. People buy the $300 AFC to tweak the T25 and stock injectors and still see gains.

DSMLink is something that you could put on a totally stock car in the beginning and as the car grows and evolves, DSMLink will always be there to support anything you do, giving feedback on what each part does to enhance or hinder performance, and giving you the ability to get the most out of each part.
 
people buying afc's and dsmlink to "tune" stock injectors and t25's are retarded period.

what good is a 2step and nolift to shift when you dont' race it in the first place?

disabling the knock sensor isnt fixing phantom knock maybe you should fix the problem not throw a bandaid on it so you dont' have to see it.

don't get me wrong dsmlink is a great investment IF YOU NEED IT and he DOESNT NEED IT. and doesn't look like he's even planning on running anything that would make him need it any time soon.

then again anything that flashes or looks pretty makes the ladies wet.
 
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