So recently I converted my 2g Talon to Automatic and I couldn't seem to find any good info on the internet or really anywhere else on how to do or what parts I needed so I have decided to create this lil FAQ to give out all the information I have learned through my experience.
Now first of all you may be asking yourself why the hell anyone with a fast car would want to swap to automatic? Well its simple, for drag racing it cant be beat, not only can a auto trans shift faster than you ever will be able to but it also is more consistent and since during the launch the entire driveline is preloaded you are far less likely to break parts like axles, driveshafts t-cases etc etc.
First of all I will list all of the parts that are needed and their part numbers:
-Rear Engine Mount Bracket - MD753003
-Both Passenger Side mounts - MD753957 Trans Bracket, MD911274 Body Side Mount
-Engine Plate - MD194962
-Starter - MD172861 for 95-96, MD178511 for 97-99
-Speedometer Sensor Gear - MD757055 for 95-96, MD760150 for 97-99
-Shifter w/Cable and Brackets - MB910542 Cable
-Transfer Case - MD758203 for 95-96, MD748595 for 97-99
-Rear Differential
Now I will break down all parts of the swap and what needs to be done.
Motor Mounts - Some of the motor mounts on the trans are completely different and are impossible to swap over from your manual trans. Luckily both pieces to the front mount are the same and the mount on the drivers side for the engine can obviously be left alone. But both passenger side mounts are different. And on the rear of the trans the bracket that mounts on the trans is different but the mount that stays on the body of the car can stay.
Transfer Case and Differential - Both the transfer case and differential will need to be changed, the transfer case that is used will be dependent on what year car the transmission is from, t-cases for 95-96 cars are different from the 97-99 ones. You can find out what year the trans is by checking the VIN number stamped on it. And as for the rear differential the gear ratio between m/t cars and 5 speed cars are also different, but any rear differential from a 95-99 auto car will work, look for one with a 3.307 Gear ratio.
Shifter - Obviously you will need to install a shifter, which will bolt right in and then you will also need the single cable to connect it to the trans, you will also need to make sure you have the bracketry to connect the cable to the trans.
Shift control - Now this is where the swap may get a little difficult, there are two different ways to go about controlling the trans. You can either A) Buy a Transmission control computer, wiring harness and all sensors and let the computer control it. Or B.) Buy a IPT Shift controller, make some plates to cover the holes for the speed sensors on the trans and call it a day. I myself went with the Shift controller, it was the easiest method and now I can control my trans as if it were a stick by the push of a button. If you decide to try to piece together the computer system for the trans then all I can say is good luck, it wont be easy. There is one other method to control the trans and that would be with a AEM EMS or other Stand alone system but I wont even go into that.
Mounting a 2G Trans to a 6 Bolt Block - If you are using your stock 7 Bolt motor then you don't need to even worry about this section, but if you are running a 6 Bolt block then you will also need to order a Kiggly Adaptor Kit which includes all parts to connect the trans to your motor including the shim to push the trans away from the motor a little bit, if this isn't done then the torque converter gets pushed too far into the trans and blows the seal.
Links to help out:
IPT Transmissions - http://www.importperformancetrans.com/mitsubishiauto.shtml
VFAQ Gear Ratio Chart - http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Trannies.html
If you have any other questions, more info or corrections please post up or email me at [email protected]
Scott
Now first of all you may be asking yourself why the hell anyone with a fast car would want to swap to automatic? Well its simple, for drag racing it cant be beat, not only can a auto trans shift faster than you ever will be able to but it also is more consistent and since during the launch the entire driveline is preloaded you are far less likely to break parts like axles, driveshafts t-cases etc etc.
First of all I will list all of the parts that are needed and their part numbers:
-Rear Engine Mount Bracket - MD753003
-Both Passenger Side mounts - MD753957 Trans Bracket, MD911274 Body Side Mount
-Engine Plate - MD194962
-Starter - MD172861 for 95-96, MD178511 for 97-99
-Speedometer Sensor Gear - MD757055 for 95-96, MD760150 for 97-99
-Shifter w/Cable and Brackets - MB910542 Cable
-Transfer Case - MD758203 for 95-96, MD748595 for 97-99
-Rear Differential
Now I will break down all parts of the swap and what needs to be done.
Motor Mounts - Some of the motor mounts on the trans are completely different and are impossible to swap over from your manual trans. Luckily both pieces to the front mount are the same and the mount on the drivers side for the engine can obviously be left alone. But both passenger side mounts are different. And on the rear of the trans the bracket that mounts on the trans is different but the mount that stays on the body of the car can stay.
Transfer Case and Differential - Both the transfer case and differential will need to be changed, the transfer case that is used will be dependent on what year car the transmission is from, t-cases for 95-96 cars are different from the 97-99 ones. You can find out what year the trans is by checking the VIN number stamped on it. And as for the rear differential the gear ratio between m/t cars and 5 speed cars are also different, but any rear differential from a 95-99 auto car will work, look for one with a 3.307 Gear ratio.
Shifter - Obviously you will need to install a shifter, which will bolt right in and then you will also need the single cable to connect it to the trans, you will also need to make sure you have the bracketry to connect the cable to the trans.
Shift control - Now this is where the swap may get a little difficult, there are two different ways to go about controlling the trans. You can either A) Buy a Transmission control computer, wiring harness and all sensors and let the computer control it. Or B.) Buy a IPT Shift controller, make some plates to cover the holes for the speed sensors on the trans and call it a day. I myself went with the Shift controller, it was the easiest method and now I can control my trans as if it were a stick by the push of a button. If you decide to try to piece together the computer system for the trans then all I can say is good luck, it wont be easy. There is one other method to control the trans and that would be with a AEM EMS or other Stand alone system but I wont even go into that.
Mounting a 2G Trans to a 6 Bolt Block - If you are using your stock 7 Bolt motor then you don't need to even worry about this section, but if you are running a 6 Bolt block then you will also need to order a Kiggly Adaptor Kit which includes all parts to connect the trans to your motor including the shim to push the trans away from the motor a little bit, if this isn't done then the torque converter gets pushed too far into the trans and blows the seal.
Links to help out:
IPT Transmissions - http://www.importperformancetrans.com/mitsubishiauto.shtml
VFAQ Gear Ratio Chart - http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Trannies.html
If you have any other questions, more info or corrections please post up or email me at [email protected]
Scott
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