HKS Super Mega Flow or KN Standard Panel Filter

[TrueSidewinder]

Hi, just a little question about intake system in my 2g n/t 97 eclipse gs.

HKS SUPER MEGA FLOW

OR

KN PANEL​

i don't know what is the best...

my gs haven't a lot of mods on engine and for this reason i don't know what's the best...


engine mods:
exhaust
fuel pump
ignition (spasks & co.)

now, what's te best filter for my dsm...?

TNX!
BYEZ!

 

[GSGoinFast]

Hi, just a little question about intake system in my 2g n/t 97 eclipse gs.

HKS SUPER MEGA FLOW

OR

KN PANEL​

i don't know what is the best...

my gs haven't a lot of mods on engine and for this reason i don't know what's the best...


engine mods:
exhaust
fuel pump
ignition (spasks & co.)

now, what's te best filter for my dsm...?

TNX!
BYEZ!

isnt the HKS filter cost twice as much as the K&N? i would just go with the K&N if i were you... you have a 4g63 in that 2gnt dont you?

 

[TrueSidewinder]

ya, it's true!

but in USA!

here in italy a KN NORMAL filter cost 100€ (~75$)

a friends ordered in ebay a group of things and recived this filter (diameter 80)

e he'll sell me this filler at 90€ (~ 68$ ) just to earn the money of international transport

the question is:

PERFORMANCE

it's better a HKS SMF or KN!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?

(for my 97 2g n/t)

tnx for the answere!

 

[destruckeclipse]

K&N Is perfectly fine. Remeber the more it flows the less it filters. So if this is a everyday road car I would go K&N.

 

[TrueSidewinder]

this car ins used also on te road and also on track

the engine isn't so fast...

but coil over spring stunt bar tires brakes are made to go on track...

i want perfermance

however kn you say?
ok!

 

[TrueSidewinder]

Other impression?!?!?

Please help me!

a lonely italy dsm owner ... :-(

 

[GSGoinFast]

this car ins used also on te road and also on track

the engine isn't so fast...

Im not sure what you were expecting with an naturally aspired 4 cylinder?

but coil over spring stunt bar tires brakes are made to go on track...

i want perfermance

however kn you say?
ok!

my friend bought an HKS filter and the thing was damn nice. but we couldnt close his hood after he put it in (3000GT) but in all honesty you will be fine with either filter, it really wont make a big difference..

 

[TrueSidewinder]

of course!

only a filter on a 4cyl naturaly aspired is nothing!

but slowly i want to pump this engine... slowly but costant

however...

for 70$

on my n/t 97 dsm

it's better an HKS SMF or a KN Panel?

(this is the question)

 

[SlowSpyder]

Get a k&n but not the panel filter. Get the maf adapter and a k&n to fit the adapter. Besides the Hks is too expensive and you have to replace the filter element when it's dirty while the k&n is washable.

 

[TrueSidewinder]

OK DONE!

KN​

 

[speedy13]

bongorno paisano!I don't wanna whore your thread,but whats this of your 2gnt having a 4g63?sorry if this is a dumb question i'm not hip on the edm stuff.

 

[TrueSidewinder]

see my page

http://eclipse.web-gratis.net

and go to MECCANICA in the left frame

the first pictures is my engine...

it's a 4g63? maybe yes...

 

[notractiongst]

see my page

http://eclipse.web-gratis.net

and go to MECCANICA in the left frame

the first pictures is my engine...

it's a 4g63? maybe yes...

EDIT: if you where asking yes that looks to be a 4g63

I wonder why they used the 420A in USDM N/Ts but the 4g63 in other N/Ts

I bet this pisses 420 A Owners off

 

[GSGoinFast]

bongorno paisano!I don't wanna whore your thread,but whats this of your 2gnt having a 4g63?sorry if this is a dumb question i'm not hip on the edm stuff.

the euro spec 2gnt's came with 4g63's. ive thought about this, and the conclusion ive come up with is the 4g63 is the engine that is in the japanese eclipses, which will have a steering wheel on the right side of the car. and since the euro spec cars need the steering wheel on the right, and the 420a is a chrysler engine designed for the wheel to be on the left, why redesign the 420a platform when they can just use the existing 4g63 platform and just leave it non turbo. i dont know if this is the reason why but this is my hypothosis

 

[TrueSidewinder]

perfect!

this is the right answere!

 

[speedy13]

EDIT: if you where asking yes that looks to be a 4g63

I wonder why they used the 420A in USDM N/Ts but the 4g63 in other N/Ts

I bet this pisses 420 A Owners off

youre damm right this pisses us off,at least me,do you realize how much easier this would of made our live,i'll drive on the other side,it's the same thing.

 

[GSGoinFast]

youre damm right this pisses us off,at least me,do you realize how much easier this would of made our live,i'll drive on the other side,it's the same thing.

why does that piss you off? id rather have the 420a then the 4g63 for an nt. give me one reason why you would want the 4g63 over the 420a in the 2gnt? an nt 4g63 will still come with weak internals because its not designed for boost. show me an advantage to haveing the NT 4g63?

 

[TrueSidewinder]

(first of all sorry for my english)

however

4g63 nt is better than a 420a for some reason (not a lot )

tested in highway 4g63 go better
a lot of parts of turbo dsm goes easy over a 4g63 (also because was born turbo and for us "lucky italian guy" was degraded to nt.. DAMN!)

you can find a lot of parts (more than 420a)

change some parts and you have a turbo engine!

(i know, it's better a swap, but if you don't have a lot o of money )

so for me the difference between a 4g63 and 420a are little

but there are! (in better way of course )

ok i spoke about italian eclipse

here, this car, it's really rare!

 

[dsmrunnah95]

an nt 4g63 will still come with weak internals because its not designed for boost. show me an advantage to haveing the NT 4g63?

4g63n/t still has the same rods as the turbo version, just a little higher compression so the internals are nearly as strong. It's also easier to upgrade the 4g63n/t since there are more parts out for it.

 

[TrueSidewinder]

ok... the same idea!

 

[GSGoinFast]

4g63n/t still has the same rods as the turbo version, just a little higher compression so the internals are nearly as strong. It's also easier to upgrade the 4g63n/t since there are more parts out for it.

even if it comes with the same rods, the engine is only as strong as its weekest link, and the nt pistons still have a higher sitting compression ring landing and are easy to crack. thats why 1gnt guys that go turbo can still only run 9 psi max. there arent going to be many NT upgrades for a 4g63 NT. why would a company invest in making NT products when they can make turbo products since the turbo car is more popular to modify. thats why 1gNT guys have even less parts then we do. one advantage is it is easier to swap, and its easier to make it a turbo. but you can make a 420a turbo for a similar price. we've got a better flowing head and a stronger transmission. and the 420a is more reliable then the 4g63, not to mention coughcrankwalkcough. id take a 420a over a 4g63 nt any day.

 

[speedy13]

why does that piss you off? id rather have the 420a then the 4g63 for an nt. give me one reason why you would want the 4g63 over the 420a in the 2gnt? an nt 4g63 will still come with weak internals because its not designed for boost. show me an advantage to haveing the NT 4g63?

for one,i don't think the internals on a NA 4g63 are weak at all,and if I'm not mistaken the only difference betwen the two(4g63 NA VS 4g63T) on the internals side is the pistons and the rings.you want 1 advantage of a a na 4g63?here it goes, a 700 dollar DIY turbo kit.the defense rests your honor

 

[GSGoinFast]

for one,i don't think the internals on a NA 4g63 are weak at all,and if I'm not mistaken the only difference betwen the two(4g63 NA VS 4g63T) on the internals side is the pistons and the rings.you want 1 advantage of a a na 4g63?here it goes, a 700 dollar DIY turbo kit.the defense rests your honor

right, the pistons are the only difference. but to change the pistons you gotta take the engine apart, and if you already have it taken apart, spend $300 extra on eagle rods for a 420a to go along with forged pistons and you have a stronger bottom end then you would if you had just changed the pistons in the 4g63.

and to counter the $700 diy turbo kit, I myself am doing a... whats this? a $700 diy turbo kit!! the prosecution says stfu your honor!

 

[speedy13]

i have seen countless people trying to get a turbo kit done for 700 dollars for a 420a,and i'm not saying you can't do it i'm just sayin i haven't seen it done yet.now before you start bombimg the list of your budget turbo kit on the thread,whenever you have it done let us know how you did it and how much you spent.i think it will be at the very,very least around $1200 in fabrication and parts,and it will still be a slapped together turbo kit,not a factory designed one.now i'm not sayin youre just slappin parts together,but i'm shure the engineers at mitsubishi have the upper hand on you on designing turbo systems.

 

[GSGoinFast]

i have seen countless people trying to get a turbo kit done for 700 dollars for a 420a,and i'm not saying you can't do it i'm just sayin i haven't seen it done yet.now before you start bombimg the list of your budget turbo kit on the thread,whenever you have it done let us know how you did it and how much you spent.i think it will be at the very,very least around $1200 in fabrication and parts,and it will still be a slapped together turbo kit,not a factory designed one.now i'm not sayin youre just slappin parts together,but i'm shure the engineers at mitsubishi have the upper hand on you on designing turbo systems.

pfff mitsubishi has the upper hand... nonsense! ok it will probably end up being around $800, but i got $150 of it for christmas so its only $650 to me! i just did a tally and ive spend $694 without shipping, and probably $750 with shipping. ive got everything i need except intercooler piping and couplers. im gonna do a write up of the whole thing when im done.