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ECMlink Here is a question I have been holding back on

Posted by Jamesberry2382, Oct 18, 2019

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  1. Jamesberry2382

    Jamesberry2382 Probationary Member

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    I have a 92 Talon non turbo 4g63(Its our track car). I am parting out my 92 laser rs(title issues meaning the dash is not from the car) that has ECM Link. How difficult would it be to utilize ECM Link to tune that non turbo car if even possible. I obviously would add a knock sensor, use the engine harness frome the laser, and bring the SD to the Talon.
     

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  2. BLACK'98DSM

    BLACK'98DSM Proven Member

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    What modifications have you done to the 4g63? You won't be able to get much out of it if you haven't done anything to it.
     

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  3. Dhan

    Dhan Supporting Member

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    It is possible to configure ECMlink to talk to the MUT-II in the 2.0L non-turbos. I did it like ten years ago for easier diagnostics. I couldn't write anything new to the ECU cause it wasn't an EPROM and didn't have the ECMlink chip though. I had plans to up the compression with different pistons, run premium fuel, and lean it out to the max in that car, but it just never happened. I unfortunately don't remember how we did it. My dad is the one that figured it out. I texted him but he doesn't remember what I'm talking about at all :idontknow:
    I do remember it being something pretty simple, like right clicking on the desktop icon and editing something in properties or changing something in the preferences tab in the program itself. I wish I had written down what we did.

    It's not a feature I've ever seen advertised by the ECMlink guys, so maybe they don't want it out there. It couldn't hurt to shoot Thomas an email over at ECMlink and with your most humble begging and pleading words just ask him how to do it.

    I'll mess around with the program a bit this evening and if I figure it out I'll let you know. Maybe someone else will chime in with how it's done.
     

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  4. Jamesberry2382

    Jamesberry2382 Probationary Member

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    Squeezing any hp would help tremendously.
     

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  5. Mham2k

    Mham2k Proven Member

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    I'm no ecmlink expert but it seems as simple as turning the boost control off and setting up the timing and fuel maps appropriately.
     

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  6. Jamesberry2382

    Jamesberry2382 Probationary Member

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    Thank you so much for the reply. I'm going to install a ECU with link already and a turbo harness. I might just have to run the smallest turbo possible.
     

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  7. Jamesberry2382

    Jamesberry2382 Probationary Member

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    I don't know anything about ecm link I am super new at it.
     

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  8. Dhan

    Dhan Supporting Member

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    Oh I didn't realize you were going turbo. In that case it should just be a matter of getting a turbo ECU in there with the proper ECMlink chip, the proper proper fuel injectors, regulator, and pump, and other necessary parts. Not sure how much boost you'll be able to run safely on n/t block, trans, and pistons though. The n/ts are a higher compression ratio than the turbo and the trans isn't as stout. You could probably pick up a cheap 13b or 14b turbo though.
    Maybe you already know all this, and I don't know how much time or money you're willing to put into a turbo swap, but it's doable and there's a how-to on this site.
     

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  9. Jamesberry2382

    Jamesberry2382 Probationary Member

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    I have everything needed to go turbo already. I just wanted to wait as long as possible and maybe be able to learn tuning on our non turbo motor. So I want to install the turbo harness, speed density, ecm link and run a NT car. I have ecm link already
     

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  10. CrackedDSM

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    To answer your question, not hard at all especially with the turbo ecu, harness(you don't actually have to change your harness, just add 5 wires to your existing harness), and knock sensor. You may have to do some adjusting to your tables if you're gonna stick with the n/t MAF, but everything else is plug and play. You need a wideband 100% first, but if you have one, go ahead and plug it all up, pull the stock tune off the ecu, copy it and save it, and then start editing one of the copies(leave one untouched to save your ass if anything goes wrong). Your timing tables, AFR tables, MAF hz/etc will all work with the n/t engine, it just will never go into boost. That way once you add forced induction of any sort, you can just edit the actual boost/positive pressure sections of the timing and AFR maps.

    Long story short: With everything you listed, it's 100% easy. Just make sure you have a wideband.
     

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  11. Jamesberry2382

    Jamesberry2382 Probationary Member

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    Thank you for the reply doing the harness is easy for me and I'll be running speed density. I'm running a innovate wideband already.
     

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