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Mr PopUps
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Ft. Mitchell,
Kentucky
Something's just not right with your equation here. Sure a magnificent driver can do amazing things, but some of your claims are downright unbelievable unless you got your hands on some 200 octane fuel.
Sure more boost is going to make you fast, but you'll need more fuel in order to cool the combustion temperatures enough to prevent knock. If you're getting knock, the loss in timing is going to hurt more than added boost....for example, a car running 25psi and 8* of timing is going to be slower than a well-tuned car running 18psi and 23* of timing.
I just can't understand how you were running 450cc injectors well into the 11's unless you had eight of them.
Seeing as how you joined this site 5 days ago and you're already sitting on over 100 posts and creating threads titled "For the doubters on here...", you're obviously here to prove something. I'm not accusing you of not knowing anything, however you don't have to throw your knowledge in our faces- you'll eventually become discovered on your own.
I never said i was that guy. I never said i ran 11's, best i could do untuned (no electronic control other than the ECU) on the Frank was 13.3@105. I posted that story cause too many here thing that you cant push past 16psi on the stock injectors, or turbo for that matter. And one guy said good luck following my experience and to PM him for a motor rebuild if my knowledge was followed.
As far as the 550 comment, i posted further down that i may have remembered wrong, they might have been 750's and was looking for the article where Dave himself said what he was running. I remember it cause he said he was talking to a Honduh racer and they were running like 30psi base and 1100's or something huge like that.
The formula for what i was running, and running safely was this:
50 lbs base fuel pressure
RX-7 TT pump (190lph@43psi) rewired with 8ga to the pump
Modded 1G MAF, the entire lower half was hollow and smooth
Crushed 1G BOV
90 ECU (stock)
The couple times i logged it i was getting zero knock and i dont remember how much timing. On race gas it was another story, ive never been in a car so fast, but that day at the track i broke my welded center diff and drove a RWD Talon for a couple months. Ill say that smoking the tires at 70mph on 110 Torco race fuel and 27 psi was to say the least, an awesome feeling.
Given that the stock 1G FPR is 39 (?, going from memory) and i was running 50psi, that should translate into 1.28 times the base pressure making my 450's perform like 577's.
Yea tech is cheaper, ill give it that, but tried and true always works. Anything im doing or have done is way older than i am even, and im only in my 30's.
Owning and modding a DSM used to be about Going Fast Cheaper, so a lot of innovation was born, shops were started etc. Guys like Al Blaha pushed the envelope to prove that it could be done, mostly to the Honduh guys, but to V8 owners too.
Im not trying to force anything on anyone, but when i say something that no one has heard of, instead of asking HOW its done, they just said it COULDNT be done.
Oh, and the earth is really flat.
wow for giggles i pulled up dsmtimes.org to see how fast the fastest 14b is, and i see they hit 10's with juice, but sitting at 100 the last time i ever submitted for my own car is there.
13.3@105 was pump gas and 18 or 20psi i think. Before the Frank i ran 
