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Facebook's negative impact on car culture and tech info

Ludachris

Founder & Zookeeper
7,977
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Nov 12, 2001
Newcastle, California
All - try and make it a practice to encourage any DSM owner you come across on FB who is discussing tech topics to come here and discuss them. If you come across people doing big things with their cars, advise them to log on here and post a build thread so we can all follow along with their build. If you come across something really cool with their set up, ask them to come here and post a write-up on it. Let them know that here, they are able to take ownership of the direction the DSM community will go, and their contributions will guide others for years to come.

On FB they're simply having conversations that nobody will benefit from a few weeks from now, let alone a few years from now. All of their valuable insights from their DSM journey will eventually be lost forever. If they chronicle their journey here and interact with members here, the next generation of DSMers will benefit immensely.

I see cool car photos on FB and IG all the time. But in forums like this, I learn how those cars were built. I find details about the process that I would never be privy to by just seeing photos on those social networks.

We'll only be able to make a positive impact if everyone constantly invites people in from FB. I do it all the time but I'm also the guy who runs this site, and I think some see that as spam. If you feel as strongly about this as I do, we need you to be active in these efforts daily/weekly. We need to keep building repositories of information that have helped car enthusiasts for decades.
 

Morphius

DSM Wiseman
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Jun 9, 2003
M-Town, Michigan
All - try and make it a practice to encourage any DSM owner you come across on FB who is discussing tech topics to come here and discuss them. If you come across people doing big things with their cars, advise them to log on here and post a build thread so we can all follow along with their build. If you come across something really cool with their set up, ask them to come here and post a write-up on it. Let them know that here, they are able to take ownership of the direction the DSM community will go, and their contributions will guide others for years to come.

On FB they're simply having conversations that nobody will benefit from a few weeks from now, let alone a few years from now. All of their valuable insights from their DSM journey will eventually be lost forever. If they chronicle their journey here and interact with members here, the next generation of DSMers will benefit immensely.

I see cool car photos on FB and IG all the time. But in forums like this, I learn how those cars were built. I find details about the process that I would never be privy to by just seeing photos on those social networks.

We'll only be able to make a positive impact if everyone constantly invites people in from FB. I do it all the time but I'm also the guy who runs this site, and I think some see that as spam. If you feel as strongly about this as I do, we need you to be active in these efforts daily/weekly. We need to keep building repositories of information that have helped car enthusiasts for decades.

Totally agree.

About every third reply post I make on a DSM page on FB, I'm pointing them here. I see it happen frequently from a number of people. I don't purposely frequent the pages, but trip across stuff as it pops up on my wall.
 

Ludachris

Founder & Zookeeper
7,977
2,742
Nov 12, 2001
Newcastle, California
Totally agree.

About every third reply post I make on a DSM page on FB, I'm pointing them here. I see it happen frequently from a number of people.
I get that some people will get pissed when you do it - FB has fostered an atmosphere of hyper impatience and instant gratification to a scale we've never seen before. People don't want to wait for answers on forums, they want an answer immediately, so they go to FB, ignoring all of the in depth discussions that have taken place in communities like this over the years. I even see snarky comments like "I don't care what someone wrote about this 15 years ago, I want current info" - even though that historical data is actually still relevant to the questions they have. It's infuriating.

That's why I tend to push more for write-ups on installations and builds more than I do pushing people to come here to ask for help - instead, I link people to some threads or a Google search that contains links to threads here. People are more receptive to that. Many realize they have something to contribute. Getting them to actually do it, well, some people don't have a lot of time, and others don't always care enough about contributing to a living archive for others to benefit from. But some will. And you have to keep trying otherwise we'll eventually lose it all.

I'll keep doing what I can, but I could use some help. Be diligent. Share the importance of what's at stake. Don't allow FB to erode all the great information we've all benefited so much from over the years.
 

Ludachris

Founder & Zookeeper
7,977
2,742
Nov 12, 2001
Newcastle, California
I get that some people will get pissed when you do it - FB has fostered an atmosphere of hyper impatience and instant gratification to a scale we've never seen before. People don't want to wait for answers on forums, they want an answer immediately, so they go to FB, ignoring all of the in depth discussions that have taken place in communities like this over the years. I even see snarky comments like "I don't care what someone wrote about this 15 years ago, I want current info" - even though that historical data is actually still relevant to the questions they have. It's infuriating.

That's why I tend to push more for write-ups on installations and builds more than I do pushing people to come here to ask for help - instead, I link people to some threads or a Google search that contains links to threads here. People are more receptive to that. Many realize they have something to contribute. Getting them to actually do it, well, some people don't have a lot of time, and others don't always care enough about contributing to a living archive for others to benefit from. But some will. And you have to keep trying otherwise we'll eventually lose it all.

I'll keep doing what I can, but I could use some help. Be diligent. Share the importance of what's at stake. Don't allow FB to erode all the great information we've all benefited so much from over the years.
Just a reminder about this post I made 2 years ago. It's still relevant today. Don't help answer questions over on FB. Point them here, and let them know you'll answer the question here so others can benefit from that answer in the future. ;)
 

Widgmaster

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Aug 24, 2018
Sarnia, ON_Canada
@Ludachris ... I have read the entire post from beginning to end and have come to the conclusion you lied to us.
You said and I quote
"I have worked hard to make our site very mobile friendly and will continue to work on ways to improve in that regard"

Sir................................HOW CAN YOU IMPROVE PERFECTION.
 

Ludachris

Founder & Zookeeper
7,977
2,742
Nov 12, 2001
Newcastle, California
@Ludachris ... I have read the entier post from beginning to end and have come to the conclusion you lied to us. You said and I quote
" I have worked hard to make our site very mobile friendly and will continue to work on ways to improve in that regard"
Sir................................HOW CAN YOU IMPROVE PERFECTION.
😄 it ain't perfect, though I appreciate the kind words.

I know I have to make some things a little easier to do - but I also have to be careful not to significantly alter the usability in a way that detracts from the usefulness of the site too. It's a tricky balance - social media platforms make it stupid simple to quickly post content. Yet, to do that in a forum setting can result in a bunch of useless clutter.
 

Ludachris

Founder & Zookeeper
7,977
2,742
Nov 12, 2001
Newcastle, California
Thought it would be worth mentioning in this thread that since it was posted, there is now a built-in Android app available to make mobile browsing and participation a little easier. And before long, iPhone users will FINALLY be able to enable push notifications with the new iOS update. Even more reasons to dump FB and their exploitation of addictive behaviors, manipulative algorithms, and dopamine-hacking social experimentation. Support forums like ours for discussing DSMs and sharing DSM content with the DSM community. ;)
 
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