E-85 and DSM Compatablity

[sbiggi]

Pretty sure you dont need a special fuel pump.

You "may" need to replace the orings and other rubber parts in your fuel system, but it would take a while of running e85 to see any issues. In winter months all our gas is 10% ethanol out here in the Colorado and the e85 is reduced to e75 because it doesnt like cold starts.

The main thing is the fuel management. 10:1 or richer is stoich for ethanol, so you would need to tune even richer under WOT. Expect to see 10-15% reduction in gas milage.

I dont think the stock fuel management will work at all, because it will shoot for 14.7:1. If you run a wideband and fake the output to show stoich as 10:1 and run larger injectors then it may work ok.

On top of the cost of getting your car compatible, it isnt going to save you very much money, E85 is supposed to go up in price just like gas because the refineries are going to switch from mbt or whatever its called to E for knock detention. Supply vs demand.

Plus the government subsidises a large chumk of the production of e85, which is the only reason it is not more expensive at the pump then gas.

 

[Dark_Horse]

E85 can have cost savings over Premium Unleaded depending on the price difference between the two. Figuring in a 15% drop in MPG, the price of E85 needs to be 15% lower than premium to break even.

You can however use blends of E85 and Premium to generate cost savings. In order to maintain a 91 octane rating (assuming you already have 10% Ethanol added to your fuel like we do in CO) you will need to run 30% E85 and 70% Regular Unleaded. This will only drop your MPG by ~5% and will result in saving ~$100 per year based on current gasoline/E85 prices here in CO.

As for special fuel pumps...I have yet to find an in tank pump that says they're Ethanol tolerant. However from the research done by the WRX crowd with the Walbro 255lph, after 2 years and 15,000 miles plus, they've had no issues with running E85 and a Walbro.

Oh, stoich for straight Ethanol is 9:1. Stohic for E85 is ~9.8:1 give or take a few tenths depending on time of year.

See Here for all the E85 info you can stand. If you search on this forum you'll find 50+ threads on E85 with multiple links as well.

 

[pgt1996]

I wish this thread wasn't in the hangout, but rather a technical forum, I didn't realize that when I first posted to it, I just did a search on E-85 and this was one of the better threads.

I guess my main concerns now are safety as far as not having a flame arrestor in the filler neck, and that the fuel pump if I used my WalMart pump, is not designed for use with ethanol which is conductive, versus gasoline which is an insulator. I have read that gasoline in a closed tank will not ignite with a spark due to the enivronment being too rich, and not having oxygen to sustain a fire, but I don't know that this is the case with ethanol.

My secondary concerns, also very important, but not so much as my life , are how to tune. According to wikipedia "E85 fuel requires a richer air fuel mixture than gasoline for best results. Successful conversions generally require 27% - 30% more fuel flow than when the engine burns 100% gasoline." So, I have a 1G with a MAFT, set up, would I be just adding in ~30% more fuel accross the board and just tuning for knock?

I grabbed this from another board (I won't say where)

"When you talk about oxygen sensors and any kind of fuel, remember that they have no idea what stoichiometric AFR is like 14.7:1 and 9.x:1. They are lambda sensors and will sense lambda=1 and so forth. For instance, my wide band reports lambda=1 and 14.7:1 witch corresponds to the correct e85 stoichiometric ratio somewhere in the 9s.

The best way to hack a stock ECU for e85 is to fudge the injector constant. This will ensure that open loop as well as closed loop AFRs will be in line and timing strategy and so forth will function normally. Then, 14.7:1 will correspond with whatever the stoich ratio for e85 is (who cares) and other values will be equivalently rich or lean and you won't have to unlearn the trashy paradigm of gasoline AFRatios. Bubba won't have to learn a proper system like lambda or equivalence ratio that the scientific community functions on. "

"On a wideband, stoich for gasoline and stoich for E85/Ethanol will read as 1.0 lambda. The wideband doesn't care what fuel you are running, to it stoch is 1.0 lambda no matter what the mix. If your wideband display output is set for gasoline, then 1.0 lambda will read as ~14.7:1 A/F. So, if the stoich of E85 is 9.8:1, then stoich would read as ~14.7:1 on a gasoline calibrated wideband display. So, you would shoot for the same types of A/F ratio on your wideband as you normally might on gasoline, and then go from there."

 

[Dark_Horse]

You may be able to just use the MAFT. You'd need to pick a value on the MAFT for 30% smaller injectors than you really have. IE, you have 600cc injectors, but select the stock 450cc setting on the MAFT. This is basically what the WRX testers have done (except they picked 30% larger injectors than stock and used the stock ECU).

As for the flame arrestor...I have never seen anyone posting about having a problem with running a non ethanol tolerant in tank pump on a vehicle with no flame arrestor.

It's all trial and error.

The post about the wideband is dead on. 14.7 on a gasoline calibrated WB is stoich no matter what fuel you are running.

 

[sbiggi]

You may be able to just use the MAFT. You'd need to pick a value on the MAFT for 30% smaller injectors than you really have. IE, you have 600cc injectors, but select the stock 450cc setting on the MAFT. This is basically what the WRX testers have done (except they picked 30% larger injectors than stock and used the stock ECU).

As for the flame arrestor...I have never seen anyone posting about having a problem with running a non ethanol tolerant in tank pump on a vehicle with no flame arrestor.

It's all trial and error.

The post about the wideband is dead on. 14.7 on a gasoline calibrated WB is stoich no matter what fuel you are running.

That makes sense, I saw the settings in my wideband, but that obviously just changes the displayed A/F vs Lamda.

I can also tell you that I get 2 mpg less when they have us on the 10% blend, as a matter of fact they just switched my station back to mtbe. I can tell because my fuel trims just got all messed up, I had to lean out my global to compensate.

 

[pgt1996]

I requested that this post be moved to the tuning forum.

 

[tigmandick]

Well when i started this thread it was like 85 cents per gallon and i think this thread will do good in the tuning fourum.

 

[Dark_Horse]

All this E85 talk/questions/misinformation gives me an idea. I'm going to make an E85 faq.

My car "should" be running sometime in April or May and then I'll post real world data. I figure my car's a good test case since I'll drive it daily. I drive a ton and 1/2. To/from work for me is 85 miles round trip...If I go to school it's more like 100 miles. I figure on a good week I drive about 450 miles. If I go anywhere on the weekends it's more like 550 miles. So my test results can be achieved in a short period of time.

I'll start writing the faq this weekend.

 

[sbiggi]

All this E85 talk/questions/misinformation gives me an idea. I'm going to make an E85 faq.

My car "should" be running sometime in April or May and then I'll post real world data. I figure my car's a good test case since I'll drive it daily. I drive a ton and 1/2. To/from work for me is 85 miles round trip...If I go to school it's more like 100 miles. I figure on a good week I drive about 450 miles. If I go anywhere on the weekends it's more like 550 miles. So my test results can be achieved in a short period of time.

I'll start writing the faq this weekend.

You live in Castle Rock? Where are you getting e85? I can easily throw a tank in mine and retune.

I'm running 1000cc injectors at 60% duty cycle, so dont really need to change anything.
I wonder if running richer on the e85 will make ignition issues more pronounced?

 

[gixrman]

I read before that you can use a pump from one of the "FLEX FUEL" vehicles, which one has the same output as a 255????. Also E85 will not only eat your O-rings but any aluminum in comes in contact with.

 

[pgt1996]

Here are some FAQ's without the answers I know the answer to some, but since you are volunteering to do the FAQ and have experience with the stuff.....

Do I need any special coatings on my pistons?

Do I need to run a special motor oil?

Do I need a flame arrestor for my fuel tank so I don't set my car on fire?

Do I need an ethanol compatable, completely electrically shielded fuel pump and fuel level sensor so I don't ignite the fumes in my tank and set my car on fire?

Do I need to install bigger injectors?

How do I compensate for running E85 with my MAFT/LINK/SAFC/etc.?

How do I know if I am running rich/lean?

Will my O2 sensor be able to read the much lower A/F ratios E85 produces?

Do I need to raise my compression ratio of my engine?

Do I need to replace my fuel lines?

Do I need to replace my FPR?

Do I need to anodize my fuel rail?

Do I need to change my fuel filter to an anodized one?

Do I need to change my fuel tank?

 

[pgt1996]

Heres a good .pdf on a conversion...

http://www.engr.unl.edu/~ethanol/unl-sae2.pdf

Note: "Fuel Pump
An ethanol compatible fuel pump and gasket was
supplied by Delphi to replace the non compatible stock unit.
The main areas of concern for the compatibility of the fuel
pump was with the internal seals of the pump and the fact
that the pump was not completely electrically shielded.
Due to the high electrical conductivity of E85, there is a
possibility that a non-shielded pump and fuel level sensor
could ignite the fumes within the tank."

Some of you may not have had problems with this in the past when you used E85, but maybe you were just lucky.

 

[Dark_Horse]

pgt1996 - You thought of questions I hadn't thought to answer. I can answer all of them except the part of people's vehicles exploding due to non-electrical shielded pump and flame arrestors. From all of my searching, I haven't found any stories, but I wasn't looking for that in particular.

I'll search this weekend to see if I can find any actual stories of people's cars catching on fire due to either of these reasons.

From what I've surmised, most people that say E85 is super corrosive are just repeating what they've heard from someone who heard from someone....etc. There is no real evidence of this happening in modern cars in the long term tests I've read about.

If you think about it, it makes sense. Why would an auto manufacturer build a car that can only withstand 10% ethanol (which is present in gasoline in most states), but not higher amounts? Car manufacturers were mandated to make fuel systems safe for 10% ethanol use in the late 1980's. Like I said before, why would they only make it safe for 10% when usually a vehicle is overengineered.

The only problem with this theory I see is that most of the long term evidence with E85 use in a "non E85 compatible vehicle" were done on WRXs and Mustangs...The fuel system on those cars may be better suited to E85 than those on a DSM.

I guess we'll see in a month or so.

 

[sbiggi]

Alright, I grabbed sack and bought some e85.
$2.59 a gallon compared to $2.69 for Premium(91 octane)

The gas light was on the the gauge was on the line, so I had about 1.5-2 gallons of 91 in, I put in 4 gallons of E85.

I took a guess and reduced my global injector size from 1300 down to 1050. After my 40 mile highway drive home my high fuel trim dropped from 107 when I had first checked it, to 100%. So my fueling was dead on for that mix.

Impressions:
Smells good, I dont run a cat and is smells way better then gas.
Same tune and Zero knock, I was expecting that since E85 is around 110 octane or so?

I think tomorrow I'll put a full tank in and test out how much timing I can add in.
In the longterm I would consider changing the fuel lines and orings over to stuff that is E compatible.

-Seth

 

[sbiggi]

I went through the 4 gallons I had pretty quick. I'm probably getting 20 mpg instead of ~23.

So I put in 9.5 gallons of E85 and 4 gallons of 91.

I'll pull the fuel pump out and check the tank when I get low on gas.

One other thing, my ignition system has always had issues with weak spark. Running e85 deffinantly show this, since I have to run so much more gas then normal. I'm getting missfires running my normal pump tune with brand new plugs gapped at .026.

Stoich in lamda is 1.0 no matter what gas you use, but A/F is different for each gas. E85 is 9.8:1 at stoich. I'm running the exact same tune as pump gas, but just added more gas to get back to the same Lamda and Gasoline A/F values.


To give people an idea how much more gas it uses. My Injector Duty Cycle at wot went from 56% to 68-70% on the 66% e85 mix I'm currently running.

 

[Dark_Horse]

Sbiggi - What A/F values are you hitting at WOT?

You're at about 101 octane figuring E85 is 105 octane currently. Which means, your new stoic A/F ratio is ~11.15:1

To obtain the corresponding gasoline mixture at the following points, your E85 A/F would be:

10.5:1 on gasoline = 8:1 with your mixture
11:1 on gasoline = 8.35:1 with your mixture
11.5:1 on gasoline = 8.75:1 with your mixture
12:1 on gasoline = 9:1 with your mixture
12.5:1 on gasoline = 9.5:1 with your mixture

 

[sbiggi]

Sbiggi - What A/F values are you hitting at WOT?

You're at about 101 octane figuring E85 is 105 octane currently. Which means, your new stoic A/F ratio is ~11.15:1

To obtain the corresponding gasoline mixture at the following points, your E85 A/F would be:

10.5:1 on gasoline = 8:1 with your mixture
11:1 on gasoline = 8.35:1 with your mixture
11.5:1 on gasoline = 8.75:1 with your mixture
12:1 on gasoline = 9:1 with your mixture
12.5:1 on gasoline = 9.5:1 with your mixture

I'm a tad leaner then normal. Log showed 11.7:1 for gasoline.

I would normally richen it up a bit, but with the increased octane I have no knock.
That and my ignition system can't handle anything richer then it is, 9:1 and 24psi is hard to light off.

 

[Dark_Horse]

Sorry, I haven't had time to make the FAQ just yet. I promise it's on the way as soon as I possibly can. In the mean time, I answered these questions...Answers in Red.

Do I need any special coatings on my pistons?
No, the 4g63 pistons are suited for running E85 straight from the factory...especially since we have oil squirters

Do I need to run a special motor oil?
You should run synthetic oil when using E85...Most of you probably run synthetic already, so no big change here

Do I need a flame arrestor for my fuel tank so I don't set my car on fire?
I don't know for sure. I'd like to say no because no evidence has shown that it is needed (cars blowing up etc). But, the car makers use one in their flex-fuel vehicles so it's up to you. In my personal car, I'm not going to run one, but I'm not responsible if anyone dies from lack of a flame arrestor.

Do I need an ethanol compatable, completely electrically shielded fuel pump and fuel level sensor so I don't ignite the fumes in my tank and set my car on fire?
Once again as I stated above, no evidence that I have seen suggests you need to have a shielded pump. But the flex fuel vehicles have one, so omit this step at your own risk. With that said, I'm not going to use one since none of the other people that have successfully used E85 in their non flex fuel vehicles have run shielded pumps.

Do I need to install bigger injectors?
Yes - you will need 33% larger injectors that are ethanol tolerant to use E85.

Do I need to install a larger fuel pump?
Yes, you will need a 33% larger fuel pump (unless you're maxing out your Walbro 255 already, then you need either dual in tank pumps 2 pumps in series, or a huge a$$ external pump). Long term tests have shown that E85 does not wear out Walbro pumps any quicker than running straight gasoline. If you want an ethanol tolerant in tank pump, get a Supra pump.

How do I compensate for running E85 with my MAFT/LINK/SAFC/etc.?
Since E85 has less energy than straight gasoline, you need to change your fuel tables by ~33%. Ex. You really have 720cc injectors, input values like you were running 550cc injectors. Divide true injector size by 1.33 to get values to input. Ex. 720/1.33=541.35 rounded to 550cc. Some fine tuning will be needed, the formula is only a baseline number.

How do I know if I am running rich/lean?
To use E85 correctly, you should have a wideband. Tune for the same AFR as you would on gas.

Will my O2 sensor be able to read the much lower A/F ratios E85 produces?
Your O2 sensor does not care what type of fuel you use. It simply shoots for stohic whether that is 14.7:1 or 6:1.

Do I need to raise my compression ratio of my engine?
No. If you had a naturally asperated engine, you could take advantage of the higher octane in E85 and raise the compression ratio if you wanted though. On a turbo engine, no change in compression ratio is needed...You can take advantage of the higher octane of E85 by turning up that boost dial or advancing timing.

Do I need to replace my fuel lines?
Long term tests on the WRX and Mustang platforms have not showed fuel line problems. It is unknown how long DSM fuel lines will last running 100% E85. My theory is that the stock lines will be just fine for years and years. If you're worried, replace your fuel lines.

Do I need to replace my FPR?
As above, tests on other platforms have not showed any problems using a non ethanol tolerant FPR. If you want an extra measure of confidence, replace your FPR with an Ethanol tolerant one.

Do I need to anodize my fuel rail?
See a pattern here...Same as above. Other platforms have not shown fuel rail problems. For extra measure of confidence, have your stock one anodized, or replace it with an ethanol tolerant one.

Do I need to change my fuel filter to an anodized one?
Are you sick of me saying same as above yet? This answer is not any different. Other platforms have not shown any problems with the stock fuel filter (though it may become clogged after a few tanks). For extra confidence, replace it after a few tanks of E85.

Do I need to change my fuel tank?
A 2G DSM has a plastic fuel tank which is perfectly ok to use with Ethanol. If you have a 1G, the answer is unknown at this time. sbiggi has had no fuel tank problems so far with his 2 tanks of E85. Tests on the WRX and Mustang have shown that after 2 years of straight E85, their fuel tanks were just fine.

After reading all of the above, the only thing I need to stress is you need to check your fuel filter reguarly with the first few tanks of E85. If your fuel system is dirty at all, the Ethanol in E85 will clean it to like new. If you have a dirty fuel system, your fuel filter WILL most likely get clogged. Do your pocketbook a favor and replace the filter after a few tanks of E85.


If there are any other questions anyone would like me to answer/include in the FAQ when I make it, please PM me.

 

[Dark_Horse]

Here's a graph that shows the fuel corrections needed to run different percentages of E85 when using DSMlink...Sorry, I don't know how to get rid of the ##### signs...Or the blank space before the table starts.

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  x:num="-0.29772727272727273" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B3*0.3)+1))-1">-29.77%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.28692307692307684" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B3*0.3)+1))-1">-28.69%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.15727272727272734" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B3*0.3)+1))-1">-15.73%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.15">15%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.70609374999999996" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-70.61%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.59108695652173915" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-59.11%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.52974999999999994" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-52.98%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.505"
  x:fmla="=450/(950/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-50.50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.44676470588235295" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-44.68%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.373"
  x:fmla="=450/(750/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-37.30%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.34687499999999999" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-34.69%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.28749999999999998" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-28.75%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.27653846153846162" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-27.65%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.14499999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B4*0.3)+1))-1">-14.50%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.2">20%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.70187500000000003" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-70.19%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.58521739130434769" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-58.52%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.52299999999999991" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-52.30%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.49789473684210528" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-49.79%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.43882352941176472" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-43.88%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.36399999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-36.40%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.33750000000000002" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-33.75%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.27727272727272723" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-27.73%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.26615384615384607" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-26.62%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.13272727272727269" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B5*0.3)+1))-1">-13.27%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.25">25%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.69765624999999998" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-69.77%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.57934782608695656" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-57.93%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.51624999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-51.63%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.49078947368421055" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-49.08%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.43088235294117649" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-43.09%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.35499999999999998" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-35.50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.328125"
  x:fmla="=450/(720/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-32.81%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.26704545454545459" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-26.70%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.25576923076923086" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-25.58%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.12045454545454548" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B6*0.3)+1))-1">-12.05%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.3">30%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.69343750000000004" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-69.34%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.57347826086956522" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-57.35%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.50950000000000006" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-50.95%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.48368421052631572" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-48.37%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.42294117647058815" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-42.29%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.34599999999999997" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-34.60%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.31874999999999998" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-31.88%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.25681818181818172" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-25.68%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.24538461538461531" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-24.54%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.10818181818181816" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B7*0.3)+1))-1">-10.82%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.35">35%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.68921874999999999" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-68.92%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.56760869565217398" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-56.76%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.50275000000000003" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-50.28%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.47657894736842099" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-47.66%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.41499999999999998" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-41.50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.33700000000000008" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-33.70%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.30937500000000001" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-30.94%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.24659090909090919" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-24.66%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.23499999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-23.50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-9.5909090909090944E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B8*0.3)+1))-1">-9.59%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.4">40%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.68500000000000005" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-68.50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.56173913043478252" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-56.17%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.496"
  x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-49.60%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.46947368421052627" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-46.95%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.4070588235294117" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-40.71%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.32799999999999996" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-32.80%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.3"
  x:fmla="=450/(720/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-30.00%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.23636363636363633" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-23.64%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.22461538461538455" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-22.46%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-8.3636363636363509E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B9*0.3)+1))-1">-8.36%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.45">45%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.68078125" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-68.08%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.55586956521739128" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-55.59%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.48924999999999996" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-48.93%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.46236842105263154" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-46.24%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.39911764705882358" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-39.91%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.31900000000000006" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-31.90%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.29062500000000002" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-29.06%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.22613636363636358" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-22.61%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.21423076923076922" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-21.42%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-7.1363636363636296E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B10*0.3)+1))-1">-7.14%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.5">50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.67656249999999996" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-67.66%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.55"
  x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-55.00%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.48249999999999998" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-48.25%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.45526315789473693" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-45.53%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.39117647058823535" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-39.12%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.31"
  x:fmla="=450/(750/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-31.00%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.28125"
  x:fmla="=450/(720/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-28.13%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.21590909090909094" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-21.59%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.2038461538461539" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-20.38%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-5.9090909090909194E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B11*0.3)+1))-1">-5.91%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.55">55%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.67234375000000002" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-67.23%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.5441304347826087" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-54.41%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.47575000000000001" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-47.58%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.44815789473684209" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-44.82%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.38323529411764701" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-38.32%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.30099999999999993" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-30.10%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.27187499999999998" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-27.19%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.20568181818181819" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-20.57%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.19346153846153835" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-19.35%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-4.6818181818181759E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B12*0.3)+1))-1">-4.68%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.6">60%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.66812499999999997" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-66.81%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.53826086956521735" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-53.83%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.46900000000000008" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-46.90%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.44105263157894736" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-44.11%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.37529411764705878" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-37.53%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.29200000000000004" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-29.20%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.26250000000000001" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-26.25%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.19545454545454544" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-19.55%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.18307692307692325" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-18.31%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-3.4545454545454546E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B13*0.3)+1))-1">-3.45%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.65">65%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.66390625000000003" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-66.39%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.53239130434782611" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-53.24%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.46224999999999994" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-46.23%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.43394736842105264" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-43.39%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.36735294117647055" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-36.74%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.28299999999999992" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-28.30%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.25312499999999999" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-25.31%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.1852272727272728" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-18.52%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.17269230769230759" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-17.27%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-2.2272727272727222E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B14*0.3)+1))-1">-2.23%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.7">70%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.65968749999999998" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-65.97%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.52652173913043487" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-52.65%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.45550000000000002" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-45.55%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.42684210526315791" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-42.68%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.35941176470588243" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-35.94%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.27400000000000002" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-27.40%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.24374999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-24.38%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.17499999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-17.50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.16230769230769226" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-16.23%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none' x:num="-0.01"
  x:fmla="=450/(550/((B15*0.3)+1))-1">-1.00%</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=17 style='height:12.75pt'>
  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.75">75%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.65546875000000004" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-65.55%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.52065217391304341" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-52.07%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.44874999999999998" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-44.88%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.41973684210526319" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-41.97%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.35147058823529409" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-35.15%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.26500000000000001" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-26.50%</td>
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  x:fmla="=450/(720/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-23.44%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.16477272727272718" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-16.48%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.15192307692307683" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">-15.19%</td>
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  x:num="2.2727272727274261E-3" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B16*0.3)+1))-1">0.23%</td>
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  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.8">80%</td>
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  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.51478260869565218" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B17*0.3)+1))-1">-51.48%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.44200000000000006" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B17*0.3)+1))-1">-44.20%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.41263157894736846" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B17*0.3)+1))-1">-41.26%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.34352941176470586" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B17*0.3)+1))-1">-34.35%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
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  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.22500000000000001" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B17*0.3)+1))-1">-22.50%</td>
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  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.14153846153846161" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B17*0.3)+1))-1">-14.15%</td>
  <td class=xl2728146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="1.4545454545454417E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B17*0.3)+1))-1">1.45%</td>
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  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.50891304347826094" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B18*0.3)+1))-1">-50.89%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.43525000000000003" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B18*0.3)+1))-1">-43.53%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.40552631578947373" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B18*0.3)+1))-1">-40.55%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
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  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.21562500000000001" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B18*0.3)+1))-1">-21.56%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.1443181818181819" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B18*0.3)+1))-1">-14.43%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
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  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.50304347826086948" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-50.30%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.42849999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-42.85%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.3984210526315789" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-39.84%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.32764705882352951" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-32.76%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.23799999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-23.80%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.20624999999999999" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-20.63%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.13409090909090904" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-13.41%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.12076923076923074" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">-12.08%</td>
  <td class=xl2728146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="3.9090909090909065E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B19*0.3)+1))-1">3.91%</td>
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  <td height=17 class=xl2528146 style='height:12.75pt;border-top:none'
  x:num="0.95">95%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.63859374999999996" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-63.86%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.49717391304347824" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-49.72%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.42175000000000007" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-42.18%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.39131578947368428" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-39.13%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.31970588235294128" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-31.97%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.22900000000000009" x:fmla="=450/(750/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-22.90%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.19687499999999999" x:fmla="=450/(720/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-19.69%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.1238636363636364" x:fmla="=450/(660/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-12.39%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.11038461538461541" x:fmla="=450/(650/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">-11.04%</td>
  <td class=xl2728146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="5.1363636363636278E-2" x:fmla="=450/(550/((B20*0.3)+1))-1">5.14%</td>
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  x:num="-0.63437500000000002" x:fmla="=450/(1600/((B21*0.3)+1))-1">-63.44%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.49130434782608701" x:fmla="=450/(1150/((B21*0.3)+1))-1">-49.13%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.41499999999999998" x:fmla="=450/(1000/((B21*0.3)+1))-1">-41.50%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.38421052631578945" x:fmla="=450/(950/((B21*0.3)+1))-1">-38.42%</td>
  <td class=xl2628146 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'
  x:num="-0.31176470588235294" x:fmla="=450/(850/((B21*0.3)+1))-1">-31.18%</td>
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  x:fmla="=450/(720/((B21*0.3)+1))-1">-18.75%</td>
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[justin0469]

Dont stainless steel lines still have a rubber interior hose, there is just the braided SS over top of it?

 

[DSMBen]

Could someone who has done the entire conversion, with no damage done, please make a guide on everything that needs to be done?

 

[gsx951]

Dont stainless steel lines still have a rubber interior hose, there is just the braided SS over top of it?

They are synthetic rubber.
In the case of Earl's hoses, the most common Perform-o-flex hose says it is suitable for most fuels but stops before making any claims on compatibility stating that if there is a question, to use their teflon lined product.
Russel on the other hand states that their product is compatible with all hydrocarbon and alcohol-based fuels.

It would appear that -AN hose presents no problems but to be certain one would have to know the brand of hose.

 

[Dark_Horse]

After doing some calculations, here are the breakdowns for max lb/min based on injector size & FAR. IDC = 90% for all calculations.


720cc injectors
Gas FAR: 11:1 = E85 FAR: 7.38:1 = 33.24lb/min
Gas FAR: 11.5:1 = E85 FAR: 7.71:1 = 34.75lb/min
Gas FAR: 12:1 = E85 FAR: 8.05:1 = 36.27lb/min
Gas FAR: 12.5:1 = E85 FAR: 8.40:1 = 37.78lb/min

1000cc injectors
Gas FAR: 11:1 = E85 FAR: 7.38:1 = 46.17lb/min
Gas FAR: 11.5:1 = E85 FAR: 7.71:1 = 48.27lb/min
Gas FAR: 12:1 = E85 FAR: 8.05:1 = 50.37lb/min
Gas FAR: 12.5:1 = E85 FAR: 8.40:1 = 52.47lb/min

1150cc injectors
Gas FAR: 11:1 = E85 FAR: 7.38:1 = 53.1lb/min
Gas FAR: 11.5:1 = E85 FAR: 7.71:1 = 55.51lb/min
Gas FAR: 12:1 = E85 FAR: 8.05:1 = 57.92lb/min
Gas FAR: 12.5:1 = E85 FAR: 8.40:1 = 60.34lb/min

1600cc injectors
Gas FAR: 11:1 = E85 FAR: 7.38:1 = 73.87lb/min
Gas FAR: 11.5:1 = E85 FAR: 7.71:1 = 77.23lb/min
Gas FAR: 12:1 = E85 FAR: 8.05:1 = 80.59lb/min
Gas FAR: 12.5:1 = E85 FAR: 8.40:1 = 83.95lb/min

All this to say, if you want to run E85 safely, use minimum of 1000cc injectors!!!

 

[deathbringer]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341
try this out. hotrod over at nasioc has been doing it sence 2004 with no ill effects.

 

[99vipereater]

Just so somebody doesn't do something retarded, you cannot drink ethanol. It's like the old moonshine days when the old moonshiners would drink the first little bit to come out the Still, it'll make you go blind. You can run it through a still and then it can be consumed (although it's easy to end up with alc-poisoning... watch out).

That's Methanol Dumb shit it has a lower boiling point than ethanol thus comes out first.