RipperXX
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Royston,
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So who else is or has done this?
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ShadowWulf said:*Insert the infamous Anti-Flag song here*
ShadowWulf said:*Insert the infamous Anti-Flag song here*
My dad did the same thing. 82nd airborne at ft bragg. He said he loved his job, but the army was shit to their people. Air force is the way to go man. If you dont go, your going ot be one of the people at the deployed locations hating hte air force because we get the cool shit. Last time i checked, army and marines have to pay for alot of the shit we get issued, i.e Gortex (250 bucks a set), boots and other stuff. Im currently deployed wiht the air force in africa adn i see firsthand how shitty the marines nad army have it compared to us.Redmachine said:I grew up army. Born at Ft. Jackson, brother born at Ft.Devon, grew up in germany. Personally I joined the Air Force. My dad confided in me once, he had a shit job, dropped out of school, but if the Airforce recruiter was open he would have joined them instead. But the Army did him good.
bfdahl said:"DONT want to be American Idiot"
MyEclipse5 said:I'm hoping your not saying that you don't like America, but I won't start a flame war. I don't want this getting locked.
a_scobel said:Nono the band doesn't mean anti-american. It means anti-war.I believe the song he's talking about is "You've Got to Die for the Government", by Anti-Flag. It talks about the abuse that the US has forced on its own soldiers in wars throughout history..how the US is willing to sacrifice its own people to gain power and money,etc.
crashed97tsi said:
Yep, thats where I get my history and political news from, a third rate wanna be punk band who are probably just saying this shit to cause controversy so they can get their name out there. If your against the war, fine, I'm not exactly for it either. But to say stuff like that is idiotic. Especially when compared with the likes of Stalin or Hitler. Those men abused their soldiers. God I would love to get into a debate just once with idiots like these to just try and understand how the hell they come to that conclusion.
To everyone in the service, I salute you. I'll be doing my part as soon as I am out of school.
edit: sorry a_scobel, none of that was directed at you if it sounded like that. Just throwing in my two cents.
While Pat and I had already used the name Anti-Flag years earlier in our other band we had been kicking around the idea of using it again. Why? Well, it was like this... the name was originally inspired as a result of the late 80's Pittsburgh scene being infiltrated by a bunch of ass holes who toted the slogan, "Freedom not fascism". Well, that would've been great if these jerks practiced what they preached, but unfortunately, their idea of punk rock was VERY fascist! They took to sporting the American flag on their jackets, saying the pledge of allegiance to the flag, and (like the bunch of goons they were) beating the #### out of each other and anyone who got in the way. (basically they were just macho jock types who happened to have gotten into punk) At shows I would see these ####ers sporting their flags singing along to the Sub Humans, Exploited, Circle Jerks, whoever happened to be on tour, and I would wonder why? Weren't these bands completely speaking out against everything these "punx" believed in? It seemed to me that these kids were really missing the point to it all. They needed to look "fascism" up in the dictionary so they could learn that fascism controls the masses by 1. Promoting extreme nationalism, and 2. Using systematic violence and terror. (To these kids credit they were against racism but they failed to realize that you can be anti racist and still be a fascist!)
a_scobel said:Actually they've been around since '88. Taken from their site:
They're far from a third-rate punk band, also.
Ps., I'm not against the war.
crashed97tsi said:didn't mean to say you were. WHat I should of said was that I'm sick of the media(bands included) trying to tell me what think about things. I'm very proud to be an american and I'm very proud of the things this country has accomplished. I guess I just lost my head a bit. I apologize. As for calling them a third rate punk band, I think pretty much any punk band is thrid rate, but that is just personal preference. Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to. This is just like the 18th post today I have read on various message boards about the punk view of our country and I guess it just through me over the edge a bit.
crashed97tsi said:didn't mean to say you were. WHat I should of said was that I'm sick of the media(bands included) trying to tell me what think about things. I'm very proud to be an american and I'm very proud of the things this country has accomplished. I guess I just lost my head a bit. I apologize. As for calling them a third rate punk band, I think pretty much any punk band is thrid rate, but that is just personal preference. Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to. This is just like the 18th post today I have read on various message boards about the punk view of our country and I guess it just through me over the edge a bit.
RipperXX said:Well the army may not be the smartest one to joine. But ever since I was a little kid I always wanted to joine. And I have worked almost everywhere around this county so im jobless right now.
My first thought was infantry, not ever sure thats spelled right , but now im thinking ground survailance, Militery police, or mechacnic. I didn't score to well on asvab (39) I have been out of school to long and haven't studied.
I also am thinking about something in comunications, but im not sure my scores will qualify for it.
I leave out to MEP's tomarrow... oh and no bonus for me (GED)