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Dog Box dogbox trans transmission [Merged 3-7]

Posted by FastRthenU, Oct 22, 2003

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  1. talont3t4

    talont3t4 Proven Member

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    Well how fast is 3rd at say 8000Rpm? You must need 4th to run a 1/4 mile no?
     
  2. slammd

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    is anyone using the dog box gears from magnus motorsports? the thought of full throttle clutchless power shifts sounds awesome. their web site says they'll handle up to 1000ft/lbs and everything fits into the stock dsm awd case.some thoughts on this would be cool.
    thanks brad
     
  3. InFlames

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    I thought it was awesome, but then I saw the price - $4800.
     
  4. slammd

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    I agree it is a lot of money, and it won't be a quick easy dicision but for what you get i'm seriously considering it. i'd probably never have to rebuild another tranny again.I haven't talked to them yet but i think their pricing is in CND dollars as well.
     
  5. boostedinaz

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    You relize that a dogbox isnt street friendly at all. YOu have to shift fast and hard ALL the time, plus all the gears are straight cut, so they will wine ALL the time. You may want to look into it more before spending that kind of cash on a piece you may not want. I bet resale would be a bi***.
     

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  6. slammd

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    ya i can see how that would be an issue for street driving.the whining i can live with,but in slow stop and go traffic trying to shift......i was thinking it was more like a syquential shifting tranny.well for the money maybe a built shep tranny would be much smarter.thanx for the info.
     
  7. peanotation

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    yeah i think for the first few months it'd be a novelty and you'd love it, but after a while it'd just get pretty rediculous.
     
  8. L2RTSiAWD

    L2RTSiAWD Honorary Moderator

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    Plus you have to change the tranny fluid every 2500 miles with expensive fluid.
     
  9. JiveMasterT

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    that part kinda sucks, but the idea of not having to push in the clutch and being able to ram shifts as hard as i want would be kinda nice, especially since the tranny in my car is the only thing im afraid of. plus stop and go traffic would be a huge pain in the ass.
     
  10. boostedinaz

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    For 90% of the people on this board, probably more, a good Shep or TRE rebuild will be more than enough. If a person drives normally and when driving hard use common sense then a good built tranny will hold up just fine. Unless you have scattered a few good rebuilt trannies, Im not talking about Bubba's Chicken and Trannies rebuild, then I could see the possibilty of a dogbox.
     

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  11. slammd

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    i guess my main concern is high rpm shifting. wouldn't even a good rebuilt tranny have issues shifting at 8000 or 8500 rpm?I'm under the impression that its just the nature of the beast that these trannys don't like to be worked hard especially at high rpm.
     
  12. boostedinaz

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    Shep shifts very high, not sure on the actual number, so I am sure he can get you what you need if you tell him. There are a few that shift past 8500 and they all have built trannies so it can be done.
     

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  13. Baron4406

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    As far as the shifts go you DO need some sort of ignition/power interrupt to shift the dogbox- you either tap the clutch or use a stutterbox. This tranny is NOT for the casual DSM.
     
  14. ecstasytsi

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    What are you talking about???? This isnt a pneumatic sequential transmission that F1 uses. It's a simple H-pattern dogbox that is designed inside the 4G63 bellhousing. All you do is let off the gas for 1/10th of a second and slam it into the next gear.
     
  15. kahl23

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    If I remember correctly from an article from Hot Rod, its something like 9-10k on the 1-2 shift. I'll go check.



    *EDIT* Can't find the mag, but it was definitely in the 9k range
     

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  16. stephenz

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    has anyone purchased one of these from magnuss or any other dist. if yes how is it on the streets,what about a sequential setup I found one several months ago for 10k with 6spd.and a set of different set of gear ratio,cv joints and transfercase.for the 4g63 1g or 2g awd.you info on these would be greatly apreciated.


    stephen.
     

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  17. Stapl3

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    Is this just pillow talk or are you serious?

    Dog box is amazing but requires excessive maintance. What driving/setup do you have that needs something like this?
     

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  19. slopefunk

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    **edit** I still couldnt get a hold of Alex but I did get a hold of Brian. He was more then helpful. ANswered my questions and xplained they were a little behind. No big deal. Anyways the guys at dogbox have been good to deal with
    later
     
  20. jonk00000

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    Im looking for some feedback from someone who has had a tranny upgrade from dogboxracing.com
    Im looking into getting the awd race upgrade for 1200

    positive or negative feedback will be much appreciated

    thanks jon
     
  21. fourreGsixty3

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    I dont have it in my car, but Ive done quite a bit of research on it, and if its for dragging then its great, beyond repute, but if you will take it to the street I don't think it would be your best bet, also if your not putting down nasty power and breaking syncro's then its over kill a stage 3 or 4 from shep will be plenty fine for the power your mods will put down, and its going to cost in the realm of 5k or a little more with the awd race upgrade done to it. It only has 4 gears, but Magnus I believe makes a 5th gear for it an extra 700$ but since its probably just for dragging for you then I doubt you will need 5th gear, it doesn't have reverse either, so I hope you dont want to take it on the street. Magnus sells their dogmission for 3800$ +shipping.
     
  22. 99redgst

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    Why does this always happen? He is not talking about the Magnus "Dogbox". He is talking about a trans rebuilt from dogboxracing.com. I have no personal experence with them, just thought I would save your thread before it turned into a "dogbox" transmission discussion. Seems like every time someone asks about dogboxracing.com everyone assumes they are refering to the Magnus dogbox, well I guess Shep is making one now too.
     

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  23. jonk00000

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  24. starion4g63

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    Try NJDSM you may get better results.
     
  25. Snobordin8

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    Here is a review I ran across on another forum:

    http://www.vendors-reviewed.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=127
     

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