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Direct port nitrous injection, considering a progressive controller

Posted by bmxunderground, Nov 27, 2011

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  1. bmxunderground

    bmxunderground Proven Member

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    Here is a pic of my set up.. installing this week. Looking to see if anyone has used a progressive controller here instead of just the momentary switch. Starting with the lowest jets at 75hp. I feel like that might produce quite a jolt. So chime in and let me know your opinion.

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  2. burkgonzo

    burkgonzo Proven Member

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    Call my friend Mike Abney at Nitrous Express and tell him Aaron sent ya, they are always coming out with nice progressive units. Good luck!
     

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  3. nitrouskris

    nitrouskris Proven Member

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    I would flow test it first....
     

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    Slo2gen Proven Member

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    75 shot per cylinder is a pretty big shot! Should be fun, hopefully nothing bad happens! I love nitrous, I ran a 150 shot once on a single fogger, it was quit the experience :p The set up looks nice btw. How big of a bottle do you have and do you have a bottle heater? I know when I ran a heater vs no heater I had more consistent sprays and a bottle would also last longer.
     

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  5. bmxunderground

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    I have two 10lb bottles, had planned on doing a 2 stage advanced setup originally. Now I'll just have a spare refill tank.

    @nitrouskris: I was just thinking that. Is there a way I can utilize equipment I already have to sort of, in house flow test?I was under the impression that if the gauge pressure and fuel pump output were correct, the rest was in the bag.

    I took a bit of time to ensure the hardware are flawlessly assembled.
     
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    cyexmaster Proven Member

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    Is your motor built?
     

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  7. nitrouskris

    nitrouskris Proven Member

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    best nitrous guy around if you want to sent it out. does flow testing and can blue print your kit


    Induction Solutions


    http://youtu.be/QPuIuG9nCUE

    this what nate did.

    DSMpartout 4 fogger nitrous test - YouTube

    also port the manifold and make sure it is super smooth right before the nozzle


    do 3 flow test

    1. nitrous only

    2. fuel only

    3. both at the same time
     
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  8. jcart953

    jcart953 Proven Member

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    I dont know that much about nitrious but thats looks sweet and I'm very interested to see how this turns out for you.

    Subcribed.

    Whats the purpose of blueprinting the car and what benefits will it help acheive in this situation? Is it just used for calcualtions and such? Not saying theres no benefit, I'm just curious.
     

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  9. renovatdkitchen

    renovatdkitchen Proven Member

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    Hi,
    Looking at picking up a NX direct port setup for my build in progress. Does anyone know if I get Magnus's SMIM with nitrous bungs, is everything else required included in the nitrous kit?
     

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  10. bmxunderground

    bmxunderground Proven Member

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    ^^^ HIGH JACKER!!

    back on point @ nitrouskris: I'll review the links now, thanks! be back with input soon.

    AFTER REVIEW: Nate's method looks dangerous!
     
  11. nitrouskris

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    yes you can

    that is one way to but not the best way. i would take the solenoids apart. double check them to make sure everything is good and in working order. the specs on the solenoids should be on the nos paper work. I stoped using nos solenoids years ago and dont recall what they are.


    http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219313

    here what I found when i was doing a friends setup

    Well I like to check every part of ANY nitrous kit because I have noticed more then once parts being not being up to factory specs. see link

    people have been doing that for years, I just dont like how the first runner on intake is spraying but it will work


    solenoids info
    http://youtu.be/MfTvoPbUhS0

    and if you wanted to run a fuel system just for nitrous. i just made mine own
    http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog/categories.asp?category=24&section=73
     
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  12. renovatdkitchen

    renovatdkitchen Proven Member

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    Oops. Honestly sorry for attempted hijack. Usually read through the thread to make sure I don't. That's why I still belog in the newbie section.

    Once again, sorry.
     

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  13. nitrouskris

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    Tune ups, at least "proper" tune ups, are based on a ratio of nitrous to fuel. Unless you know exactly what YOUR parts flow, you can only guess at that ratio, or "tune by jet spread" as people have done for years, or just put something in there and start tuning on it. There is more to a nitrous system, than just screwing nozzles in an intake and hooking up hoses. Proper installation and making sure things work as designed, is a big part..................So when you have your system "flowed", at least by me, first, we look at the installation. Are the nozzles in the proper spot and angled correctly, to get best performance. The system is diassembled, to check for "flappers" in tubing, proper fit, is it clogged with sealer, fittings installed correctly, etc. Basically the entire system is blueprinted. When it comes to the actual "flowing" part of it.....nitrous and fuel are passed through the jetting, just as it will be run on the car and the amounts of nitrous and fuel passed are measured and recorded. By knowing what the system actually passes, the proper N/F ratios can be determined, what jets and pressures it takes to get those ratios and that info passed on to you.

    Is this something that is an absolute must to have done..........no..........people have been figuring it out on their own for years and will continue to do so. Will it help you get your tunes dialed in quicker........probably so, because based on the person that you choose to do the work, they likely have a very good idea of where you should start, based on their experience and the data they get from your parts. Once you have a good baseline on one system, when you decide to try something else, tune up wise, knowing the ratio of the tune you have, will let you get closer on the "new" tune, a lot quicker. Just another tool to use in your quest to go faster and not hurt parts.
     

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