99sebring
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Made the Sebring and the Avenger right? So therefore a Sebring is a DSM right? It might not be a 3000 or a Eclipse but it's still DSM right?
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don't bring up avenger/sebring as DSM on this site =O
you're likely to get lynched and hung out to dry!
seriously i brought this up like 2 years ago, and despite solid proof that avengers/sebrings where DSM's (built in the same plant, by the same people, designed at the same time by the same people, the firewall stickers in early 95 say "manufactured by diamond star motors") all i got was hate hate hate and 2-3 people that agreed with me.
People on this website seem to think "if it's not 4g63, it's not DSM"
well those people are stupid, and more importantly WRONG.
Avenger/Sebrings ARE DSM's and if anyone tells you otherwise, just punch them in the mouth and tell them to stfu.
Avenger/sebrings are bastard neons more then a dsm.
yeah, go ahead and explain then how nothing is interchangeable between an A/S and a neon, yet 85% of parts are interchangeable between A/S and E/T?
you're a moron, and your head is so far up your ass the smell of your shit is causing you to be delusional due to oxygen displacement.
have a nice day.
"Chrysler sold its equity stake to Mitsubishi in 1993, and Diamond-Star Motors was renamed to Mitsubishi Motors Manufacturing America (MMMA) on July 1, 1995.[3] Despite the departure, the two companies have maintained various co-operative manufacturing agreements since."
Dsm died in 93' so... 2g's are not even dsm's. But they share the same name, have similar drive train, and close in year so they're generally excepted to be a dsm.
But to say a purely chrysler car is a dsm is crazy. So what that chrysler used doors that they owned from the mmma project on another platform. Doesnt make it a dsm. Yes some cloud cars might have a mitsu designed engine, but guess what, chrysler owned a majority of mitsu. So big deal. Like a GM car using an Isuzu trans. Doesnt make it a dmax or whatever they called their project.
Cloud cars werent made untill after the dsm project was over. They werent even built in the same plant as dsm's.
You have a chrysler built car with a chrysler built motor, you sir do not have a dsm, you have a chrysler.
WIKIPEDIA.ORG said:" Initially, three models were produced at this facility. The Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser and Eagle Talon were smaller 2+2 sports cars on a new co-designed platform. Models subsequently produced during the next decade included the Mitsubishi Mirage/Eagle Summit sedans, the Mitsubishi Galant, the Dodge Avenger Coupe/Chrysler Sebring Coupe, and the Dodge
Stratus Coupe. [8]"
Incorrect sir,
Well officially "DSM" was over in 93. So basically only 1g eclipse and talons are the only true dsm. Everything after is a "MMMA".
Why? because it has the plate under the hood? Lol. Avenger/sebrings are bastard neons more then a dsm.
Diamond-Star Motors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Enjoy
This argument seems trivial. I own a 1g b and have owned a 2 g a and accept the 2g and its cousin as DSM. The argument reminds me of the Porsche owners that don't accept the Boxers as real Porsche's.
We all agree that the only "true" dsm's are 1g's right? I mean they were made before the partnership ended so there is no arguing that. Now if you want to classify a car as a Dsm based on interchangeable parts the we need to consider a "true" Dsm as the standard. Let's see a 2g GSX, GST, Tsi and galant VR4 all share interchange parts (engine, transmission, ecu, fuel system, ect.) with the "true" Dsm. Therefore they can be included in the Dsm namesake. How many parts does a 420a 2g, seibring or avanger have that are interchangeable with a "true" Dsm? Brake calipers and rotors? I hardly think that qualifies those cars as having interchangeable parts with a Dsm.
In conclusion that makes the 2g GSX, GST, Tsi and vr4 a welcome and close cousin that is deserving of the Dsm namesake. The avenger, seibring and 420a 2g's are like the 2nd cousins twice removed that no one likes or wants around and that should NEVER be considered a Dsm.
don't bring up avenger/sebring as DSM on this site =O
you're likely to get lynched and hung out to dry!
seriously i brought this up like 2 years ago, and despite solid proof that avengers/sebrings where DSM's (built in the same plant, by the same people, designed at the same time by the same people, the firewall stickers in early 95 say "manufactured by diamond star motors") all i got was hate hate hate and 2-3 people that agreed with me.
People on this website seem to think "if it's not 4g63, it's not DSM"
well those people are stupid, and more importantly WRONG.
Avenger/Sebrings ARE DSM's and if anyone tells you otherwise, just punch them in the mouth and tell them to stfu.
unless you think they can beat you up, in which case, just nod your head and drive away =D
btw join the avenger/sebring forum:
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