Designing an electronic boost controller, any thoughts or interest?

[high-psi-tsi]

Hey guys, I've decided to design/build an electronic boost controller for my car, but if theres interest I may consider taking advantage of ebay and marketing a few of them. Heres my ideas for features and specs.
The control module will consists of a knob, several switches and some outputs. Turning the knob will adjust the boost pressure (DUH). The controller will be able to handle any boost you can throw at it (100+ psi) and should be as consistant or moreso the regular MBC (testing will prove or disprove this).
Now for the other stuff. The controller will have two plugs (positive and negative/ground) where you can hook up a voltmeter. Set the voltmeter on mV range and you will be able to view many of your settings (1mV corresponds to 1 psi, may change to .1V = 1 psi for more accuracy). Using the switches, you will be able to toggle between realtime boost, boost controller setting, and one or two other boost settings which will correspond to the other outputs (the other outputs will allowing it to act like a boost switch to turn on water injection/propane/etc). The boost switch settings will be adjusted through a pot for safety and size. FINALLY, the controller will have a led on it which will come on and stay on if your boost exceeds 2-3psi of your setting. A nice little notification of boost spike. Price would easily be under $150. What do you guys think, would there be any interests in this.

 

[GPTourer]

You can produce a product better then what GReddy, Blitz and A'pexi can do at a fraction of their price and you have to ask if there is any interest in this?

I would say just do it and offer them for sale, or else this will just turn into a flamefest like the aluminium CNC longblock thread.

 

[95TalonTsiAWDam]

Build it and we will come.....If it can be done for what you say and it's reliable, then do it man. I'll buy one or better yet I'll test on of the first ones for you because I'm in the market for one.

 

[Turbo Talon DL]

I think it sounds like you definately have the gears in your head turning Do you have any schematics or illustrations yet? That would make it easier to follow.

 

[high-psi-tsi]

I do have most of my schematic and all main components chosen but I think I'm going to have to make some big changes to my original idea because I forgot I'm working with 0 to 12 V instead of -12 to 12 (been in the lab too much lately). Should have a final prototype design by this weekend and a prototype built and running by next week. I'll have to draw up some nondetailed diagrams to give you a better idea.

 

[1stGenRocks]

it sounds great. drop me an email whenever you have some made. [email protected]

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

You are wasting good space. This is the most worthless thread. What do you think the answer to your asanine question is?

Go make one, no one cares if you can "theorize" one.

 

[ballagsx]

You are wasting good space. This is the most worthless thread. What do you think the answer to your asanine question is?

Go make one, no one cares if you can "theorize" one.

what do you car if it takes up space, givethe guy a chance then decide if its taking up space. he has an idea, not exactly original, but good and i think we should encourage him.

 

[Turbo Talon DL]

You are wasting good space. This is the most worthless thread. What do you think the answer to your asanine question is?

Go make one, no one cares if you can "theorize" one.

:thumbdown Damn bro...Nasty nasty :thumbdown He's coming up with something and wants more input to tweak and perfect and u wanna bust in with something stupid like that? :thumbdown This is how the DSM community progresses and thrives Take it easy bro

 

[desolateboosted]

Yeah well there are/were so many threads of "Hey this looks like a good idea what do you guys think?" "Gee I can make this and that". I mean really, you can look at it both ways. It's good that people want to make things better and at a lower cost but all those threads in the past just lead mostly to um... talking. I think what he's trying to do is very good and benefits greatly if everything is done. Sometimes 'everything' just isn't done, more like it was just talked about and it leads to frustration and bs. I know it's stupid but it's stupid having all those other post that lead to nothing.

 

[high-psi-tsi]

desolate. I'm sorry your feel like that but I know exactly what you mean. I posted this thread so I could get some input if hte features I listed were what the community wants or if you guys have ideas of other feature I an add in. It would be much easier to design any changes in now then have to modify a bunch of crap later.
Thanks for the positive feedback, this is definitely going to go forward.

 

[jim97gst]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33083&highlight=joe+e*mbc

I don't know what happened to that thing. I haven't heard anything about it since it came out. The link is dead, so it may not be offered anymore.

I don't know how similar that thing is to what you are designing.

One thing that I think would be particularly nice about having one of the high dollar EBCs, is that, if I understand correctly, have the ability to adjust the "knob" for your to keep you at your desired boost level. If I understand what you've written, yours will not do this. Probably trying to put that much logic into a DIY electronics project, would cost more in time/money than it would be worth. I think your idea fills a place in between the simple MBC, and the more traditional EBC. It would probably be worth looking into why the Joep e-MBC didn't stick around if you are going to go through the trouble of developing this thing (assuming it is unavailable).

 

[desolateboosted]

Sorry if this is off topic but that link you posted up there I also have no clue as to what happened to that product. My buddy placed an order for that Joe P E-MBC a while back. He contacted the seller after 4 months of waiting for it. Nothing happened, the guy who made them told my buddy that it was under the workings and he was waiting for parts. Then 6 months came by and still nothing, no product!? Till this day, I believe it's been a year or two and my buddy still has not recievced his embc yet. I thought that guy was a respectable dude till this.

 

[high-psi-tsi]

Jim97gst. I have an idea about a similiar feature you are talking about. This one could also have similiar feature (not in original design) but would cost extra for me to build (using 2 solenoids instead of one). However, i have been looking into that option and if the normal design experiences some nasty spike then it will be implemented. My goal with this whole project is functionality and simplicity.
The main difference between my design and one Jim is talking about is (if i understand correctly), it seems like some other EBC's take the value of psi displayed on the screen and adapt (auto adjust) there components to match this. Honestly, i don't really understand why they would do this. Proper calibration and and precise circuit design should not require any kind of adaptation on the fly. The output that the voltmeter will show with my setup, is the exact output that is going to trigger a BOV. With a second solenoid design. I could effectively sense boost spikes, and open one solenoid for a split second at 1-2 psi below where your boost is set. As I said, testing will prove whats best. I will have a simple schematic posted tonight or tomorrow.

 

[jim97gst]

I'm thinking mainly of dealing with changing weather conditions that might affect the boost level. Is your original design able to deal with this?

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

This idea will never make it to the market, I put $100 on it. If it does become marketable, I'll drop $100 on a donation to the thread starter. I won't be doing that though, because none of these ricer threads ever have the means or motive to back up, they just want to look cool and start a thread.

 

[high-psi-tsi]

Gotta love the amount of dicks out there. I hope your comments are meant to motivate me . First off, I don't see how this is "ricer" at all. It's a freaking boost controller. My whole motivation is to make it because I want one in my car, I want the challenge of developing it, and I want to give some other members of the DSM community a chance to own some nice equipment without paying the ridiculous prices. You may not think it's going to go through and thats fine, I appreciate your post because it moves up this thread so other see it . Anyway, I finished a rough schematic tonight. The parts will be ordered early next week from allied electronics and grainger. Breadboard testing of the design should get started by next weekend. I threw in a quick drawing to sort of convey my interface (although the final version may just include the circuitry box with two separate dials and and LED to mount where you wish).

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On a side note, mirage2lturbo....do you have any idea at all what your talking about. Do you knwo anything about electronics. I only ask because what means does one need for this. You order parts, you get a few boards printed, you solder stuff together. Please refrain from running your mouth and slamming me when you have absolutely no idea what your talking about. Furthermore, when this project is finished, I'll accept that $100 in check or cash

 

[dj_lethrow]

Keep us updated

 

[91gstman]

hey high-psi-tsi, would this be able to go up to above 30psi like lets say between 30 to 40psi or even higher ?

 

[Defiant]

Gotta love the amount of dicks out there.

And then I showed up.

Thicken your skin and adjust your attitude, and perhaps your next thread will live.