Best Coilovers?

[bOOstd GSX]

If money wasn't an option what full coilovers would you buy?

i was thinking tein type flex with the edfc.

 

[jtmcinder]

Originally posted by bOOstd GSX
If money wasn't an option...

So, you're asking because you plan to steal them?

- Jtoby

ps. "them" = JICs

 

[cait sith]

You don't know much about suspension, do you.

Tein's DSM stuff is entry-level JUNK.

I'd call up Bilstein, OHLINS, Penske, or someone along those lines and have them build me a complete custom fabricated setup, and say I have all the money in the world.

A pro-racing setup can cost upwards of 1500-2000 dollars PER WHEEL.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

no im not stealing them, j/w what would be the best. so JIC has a vote. anyone else wanna put in their .02?

i realy like the feature of th EDFC. im guessing its only compatable with the Tein's?

and since when was the tein type flex junk? thats some expensive junk.

 

[AWDspoOLiN]

I've also heard some junk stories about the Tein's and that they are rebuilt quite often. Compared to the coilovers out there that are considered "money is not an option", Tein's coilovers really aren't that expensive. As for the EDFC feature, I may be wrong on this but I think that I read somewhere that the EDFC motors cannot be mounted on the front coilovers due to clearance issues.

 

[cait sith]

Originally posted by bOOstd GSX
no im not stealing them, j/w what would be the best. so JIC has a vote. anyone else wanna put in their .02?

i realy like the feature of th EDFC. im guessing its only compatable with the Tein's?

and since when was the tein type flex junk? thats some expensive junk.

A smidge more than a grand for a coilover setup is not expensive for what you can build.

 

[Spidey]

JICs get my vote too, purchased and pre-set from RRE of course

 

[bOOstd GSX]

im not talkign about building a setup im talkign about coilovers.

So i guess jic would be a good way to go. will look into. any specific model?

 

[obeypixel]

problem is unless you want to spend more money on suspension than you probably got in your car, you don't want to get into an adjustable coil over.

Just figure out what kind of racing you want to do with your car first, and then put together something that will work best with that. you really only need to get into expensive suspension if you want to do road racing, but in that case, you would need to upgrade your cooling system and other things, before you even get there.
Street sport style springs and shocks would be fine for an Auto X type set-up.

My money would go to some koni shocks and eibach springs. Maybe even put in a strut tower bar for good measure. (don't scoff, it actually does help stiffen the chassis.)

Sway bars are kinda iffy because it actually changes the feel of the car more so its more of a taste issue I guess. But even before that make sure you got good brakes ect.

But, thats just my $.02

-Brandon

 

[bOOstd GSX]

well my car would be a daily driver.

heres the scenario though:

you won a contest at a import show , you were given the choice between new struts and springs or new JIC coilovers, which would you pick?

 

[4wheelpeelin]

pondering the same ? myself do i spend the money on the coilovers or is it not worth it?? i do need sumthin and dont want to be hoppin everywhere...

 

[AutoX DSM]

Given an unlimited budget I'd get JIC FLT-A2's in a heartbeat (for an off the shelf solution, bilsteins for a custom setup but that would never happen).
Given the budget that I have I decided to get Koni's, a coilover kit (ground control eventually, cheap ass w. hypercoil springs for now) RM Racing Sways and F/R tower braces and an RRE front lower brace. All these things combined cost less than the JIC's and I can get better handling out of this complete setup than the JIC's alone.

Not to mention that I can get my Konis fixed/revalved at any one of a number of places, while the JIC's would only go to RRE.

IMHO Sways make a huge improvement for a minimal investment, RM Sways are excellent.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

igs - links don't work, homeslice.

AutoX DSM - good post.

 

[igs]

JIC is GARBAGE

http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174420

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59226

 

[jtmcinder]

Oh, com'on, Dave. Swaybars are just a matter of taste and a guy who mentions autoXing in his handle should know that. Put another way, are the great unwashed really ready for a car that can be tossed around? No way! So don't tempt them into getting rid of the pig-like understeer of a DSM on stock sways. They'll just go out and get into trouble on the street, lifting mid-corner and killing someone. Better to leave them on stock sways and OTS lowering springs, which we've all recently learned are sufficient for autoXing a DSM. And, even if they aren't, the odds are that said unwashed will be kicked into SM because of some meaningless power mod and get the crap kicked out of them by a stuffed Beamer or lightweight Honda, never to return again, anyway.

GMFB, people.

- Jtoby

 

[bOOstd GSX]

igs, good repost and wow that sucks. :thumbdown

What if you bought JIC coils through a middleman such as Import Fan, RRE or even Hop Up Racing? Could you go through them or would you have to go to JIC if something went wrong. I'm sure the middleman would have a better head in things than a regular customer would.

 

[obeypixel]

yeah Boosted,
I don't know to much about the JIC's but from what I have heard, there have been problems with them. Like a said your best bet would probably be koni's and eibachs.

If you are getting stuff for free from winning a show, get a good set of swaybars too. If you like em' keep em' if not sell them on DSMtrader.com.

...What are you planing to do with your car? street, autox, drag?

-Brandon

 

[AutoX DSM]

Originally posted by jtmcinder
Put another way, are the great unwashed really ready for a car that can be tossed around? No way! So don't tempt them into getting rid of the pig-like understeer of a DSM on stock sways.

GMFB, people.

- Jtoby

, Subtle!

 

[cait sith]

Originally posted by obeypixel
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My money would go to some koni shocks and eibach springs. Maybe even put in a strut tower bar for good measure. (don't scoff, it actually does help stiffen the chassis.)
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Eibach Springs are crap. They're softer spring rates than the stock springs you have in your car right now.

 

[boostedtalon]

I'd call Rod Millen and have him build me a custom suspension set-up

 

[Black95TSIawd]

Originally posted by cait sith
Eibach Springs are crap. They're softer spring rates than the stock springs you have in your car right now.

dude, you post so much about how crappy things are, tell us what you think is good. i'm really interested in what you have to say.

 

[Romogst]

I wouldn't say the Tein are crap. They been out in Japan for a long time,so i wouln'd say they're not good. I have a friend with an Acura Type S running on Tein SS coilovers with the EFDC and he has no bad things to say about them. Don't say they're bad if u don't have any experience ......

 

[glimt]

dude, you post so much about how crappy things are, tell us what you think is good. i'm really interested in what you have to say.

here here. That is what all the suspension threads in this forum are like. Everyone thinks that everything is crap. Usually, most forums tend to converge on 1-2 items with a qualifier. E.g. Buy product X if you don't have very much money and want moderate performance, or buy product Y if you have plenty of money and want the best. For some reason, this hasn't happened here.

Is it possible that the stock suspension is better than any of the aftermarket products?

What aftermarket products perform well?
What aftermarket products are reliable?

--Craig

 

[HALO1]

Here's a follow-up question: if you're getting Koni shocks, some form of lowering springs, plus camber-related hardware, you're spending $1k right there. Why not just get the Tien Flex kit instead? Just curious. I would assume the Tien Flex kit (for example) to be a better 'match' than any shock/spring combo. But that's purely assumption.

 

[BumpinTitaniums]

Oh, com'on, Dave. Swaybars are just a matter of taste and a guy who mentions autoXing in his handle should know that. Put another way, are the great unwashed really ready for a car that can be tossed around? No way! So don't tempt them into getting rid of the pig-like understeer of a DSM on stock sways. They'll just go out and get into trouble on the street, lifting mid-corner and killing someone. Better to leave them on stock sways and OTS lowering springs, which we've all recently learned are sufficient for autoXing a DSM. And, even if they aren't, the odds are that said unwashed will be kicked into SM because of some meaningless power mod and get the crap kicked out of them by a stuffed Beamer or lightweight Honda, never to return again, anyway.

GMFB, people.

- Jtoby

sounds like elitism to me
But in terms of dollars-to-performance, coilovers aren't the greatest. You can get the same performance out of lowering springs and adjustable Tokicos or Konis. Five-way damping adjust is plenty for the average person, and height adjustability is overrated. Just get springs and shocks, some nice strut bars, a camber kit, and then get good rubbers.