Basic Parts Nobody Makes

[Jon Lane]

I've noticed that there are a few very basic, needed parts nobody makes for DSM's, at least the 2G. Somebody should get a design together and make em because it seems they'd be popular options; almost essential. Please add yours or comment why this is.

1. An airbox. How hard can it be to fab up a folded aluminum sheetmetal airbox that fits the 2G MAS and the usual suspects from K&N? I've sketched one in AutoCAD but haven't had it made. In quantity, it's be peanuts to make ... meaning Slowboy or somebody could charge a fortune for it!

2. Modified spindles. There's tons of cheap offshore forging going on these days. How hard would it be to make spindles that gave maybe 2" more inboard room? Take a stock part, push the radius up and in and bingo!

3. Big brake caliper brackets. Why is it I can't find any on-the-shelf brackets for say, Stealth calipers and 12"-13" rotors? Another dirt-simple part to fab up.

4. What else?

 

[MaNGiNa24]

I've noticed that there are a few very basic, needed parts nobody makes for DSM's, at least the 2G. Somebody should get a design together and make em because it seems they'd be popular options; almost essential. Please add yours or comment why this is.

1. An airbox. How hard can it be to fab up a folded aluminum sheetmetal airbox that fits the 2G MAS and the usual suspects from K&N? I've sketched one in AutoCAD but haven't had it made. In quantity, it's be peanuts to make ... meaning Slowboy or somebody could charge a fortune for it!

2. Modified spindles. There's tons of cheap offshore forging going on these days. How hard would it be to make spindles that gave maybe 2" more inboard room? Take a stock part, push the radius up and in and bingo!

3. Big brake caliper brackets. Why is it I can't find any on-the-shelf brackets for say, Stealth calipers and 12"-13" rotors? Another dirt-simple part to fab up.

4. What else?

Nobody makes a quality 2g awd exhaust either or a tubular o2 housing that actually mates up tot he mitsu housing or bullseye housing.

 

[jott5555]

Nobody makes a quality 2g awd exhaust either or a tubular o2 housing that actually mates up tot he mitsu housing or bullseye housing.

thats isnt true man there are lots of quality ehxuast systems for the 2g along w/ o2 setup's

 

[MaNGiNa24]

thats isnt true man there are lots of quality ehxuast systems for the 2g along w/ o2 setup's

Find me one tubular o2 housing that mates perfectly to a mitsu style housing. You can't, simply because there aren't any made. Nobody makes o2 housings using formed pipe, they just use normal round pipes and two round holes.

There aren't plenty of quality 2g exhausts either, that MR one will be the only quality exhaust available, the rest are either too expensive or too shitty. Backup your statments if you want to sway the audience.

 

[RamenPride]

3. Big brake caliper brackets. Why is it I can't find any on-the-shelf brackets for say, Stealth calipers and 12"-13" rotors? Another dirt-simple part to fab up.

you mean something like this?

http://www.electronicauto.com/products/2gttbrakeconversion/brackets.htm

 

[ericbev]

#1 DSM-Motorsports used to have one of these on their website but I dont know what happened to it. Either way they are very easily fabbed up using some sheetmetal and I personally wouldnt want to pay someone to do something soo simple.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223275&highlight=airbox

#2 Why are we doing this again? You can barley move inboard an inch before risking rubbing your tire on the knuckle. Ordering a wheel with the required offset will give you all the inboard movement you need.

#3 Already anwsered.

Find me one tubular o2 housing that mates perfectly to a mitsu style housing. You can't, simply because there aren't any made. Nobody makes o2 housings using formed pipe, they just use normal round pipes and two round holes.

There aren't plenty of quality 2g exhausts either, that MR one will be the only quality exhaust available, the rest are either too expensive or too shitty. Backup your statments if you want to sway the audience.

Umm, VPE and SBR both make nice tubular O2 options for the mitsu hotside. Both companies offering a large amount of options to make one for your specific application.

Quality exhausts? There are plenty of nice exhaust systems out their for our cars. My Buschur TB fits perfect, looks nice, is made of stainless, and gave my car a nice boost in performance on the topend. What is your definition of quality?

You didnt back up your statements so dont attack someone else for doing the same. Lead by example and tell me how all these reasonably priced aftermarket exhausts are soo "shitty".

 

[MaNGiNa24]

#1 DSM-Motorsports used to have one of these on their website but I dont know what happened to it. Either way they are very easily fabbed up using some sheetmetal and I personally wouldnt want to pay someone to do something soo simple.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223275&highlight=airbox

#2 Why are we doing this again? You can barley move inboard an inch before risking rubbing your tire on the knuckle. Ordering a wheel with the required offset will give you all the inboard movement you need.

#3 Already anwsered.





Umm, VPE and SBR both make nice tubular O2 options for the mitsu hotside. Both companies offering a large amount of options to make one for your specific application.

Quality exhausts? There are plenty of nice exhaust systems out their for our cars? My Buschur TB fits perfect, looks nice, is made of stainless, and gave my car a nice boost in performance on the topend. What is your definition of quality?

I also have the buschur turbo back, the 3" ss version that is now rusting, leaks at the muffler joint as well as the test pipe, and doesn't fit properly with the test pipe (rattles/vibrates against the chassis). That is definitely not what I call quality, especially after paying $800 for the turbo back.

I like the sound. Thats about it.

Like I said before, show me a picture of the SBR or VPE turbine side of the housing and I'll show you exactly what I mean by a quality/perfect flange adaption.

 

[ericbev]

I also have the buschur turbo back, the 3" ss version that is now rusting, leaks at the muffler joint as well as the test pipe, and doesn't fit properly with the test pipe (rattles/vibrates against the chassis). That is definitely not what I call quality, especially after paying $800 for the turbo back.

I like the sound. Thats about it.

Like I said before, show me a picture of the SBR or VPE turbine side of the housing and I'll show you exactly what I mean by a quality/perfect flange adaption.

Technically, "Stainless Steel" is strictly a trade name applied to what are known as corrosion-resistant steels. They are not rust-proof but worlds better than most other choices out there. It might have a slight rust discoloration but it will most likely outlast your car. I would have bought the aluminzed at the time if they still had it, but they didnt.

Leaking as in a giant leak or a small leak? All exhausts typically leak a little with a slip-fit design and even with flanges and a gasket, they still leak a little. What kind of clamps are you using? U-Bolt clamps or the ones that were provided with the kit? My testpipe fits fine and doesnt rub anywhere. Is it rubbing on the bracket for the joint assembly for the driveshaft or the joint itself? When I had my high-flow cat on there (which was quite a bit larger) I still had no fitment issues.

Ive never had a VPE or SBR O2 unit in my hands nor do I know many people running tubular O2s on a mitsu turbine housing so I cant comment on their fitment. What do you mean. The bolt holes dont line up? The turbine and wastegate holes dont line up?

 

[MaNGiNa24]

Technically, "Stainless Steel" is strictly a trade name applied to what are known as corrosion-resistant steels. They are not rust-proof but worlds better than most other choices out there. It might have a slight rust discoloration but it will most likely outlast your car.

Leaking as in a giant leak or a small leak? All exhausts typically leak a little with a slip-fit design and even with flanges and a gasket, they still leak a little. What kind of clamps are you using? U-Bolt clamps or the ones that were provided with the kit? My testpipe fit find and doesnt rub anywhere. Is it rubbing on the bracket for the joint assembly or the join itself? When I had my high-flow cat on there (which was quite a bit larger) I still had no fitment issues.

Ive never had a VPE or SBR O2 unit in my hands nor do I know many people running tubular O2s on a mitsu turbine housing so I cant comment on their fitment. What do you mean the bolt holes dont line up? The turbine and wastegate holes dont line up?

I understand the concept of stainless steel and that it is indeed capable of rusting, but I have a small hole towards the back that has been rusted through witht he buschur exhaust. They claim to be the lightest exhaust availaible when in reality they just use the cheapest, thinnest gauge metal available.

The leak is rather large in the back where the longer pipe connects to the muffler. In the winter you can see all the smoke coming out the joint opposed to the muffler outlet. I'm using stainless steel band clamps, when I purchased the exhaust they did not include band clamps nor u clamps.

If you look at the turbine housing on the mitsu turbos, the outlet is not a perfect circle where the wastegate mounts. Every tubular o2 I've seen utilizes two round circles that mate up to the turbine and wastegate passages when in order to get the best flow, you would need one circle for the turbine outlet and one odd shape for the wastegate passage.

 

[ericbev]

A hole?! How long have you had it on there? You guys must use evil salt on your roads like Illinois does.

I have never had these problems nor heard of anyone with them is all. I am a bit surprised.

I wonder if their design have changed at all over the years. How long ago did you purchase yours?

 

[MaNGiNa24]

I've had the exhaust on there for about 4-5 years now. I know the haven't changed the thickness of the piping. When I put my high flow cat on there, the exhaust fits perfect and the muffler tip doesn't stick out 3" too far. When I get the test pipe on there, everything goes to hell, you can hear the exhaust vibrate against hte chassis and the muffler sits too far out.

 

[ericbev]

I have to agree with the tailpipe end sticking too far out. I had to cut and reweld that thing to make it look less silly. Even with my cat on it stuck out way too far for my liking.

If I had to do it again I would build my own exhaust setup. If you want something done right (and alot cheaper) do it yourself.

 

[snox135]

Find me one tubular o2 housing that mates perfectly to a mitsu style housing. You can't, simply because there aren't any made. Nobody makes o2 housings using formed pipe, they just use normal round pipes and two round holes.

There aren't plenty of quality 2g exhausts either, that MR one will be the only quality exhaust available, the rest are either too expensive or too shitty. Backup your statments if you want to sway the audience.

I have the VPE o2 housing, it's been a long time since I've installed it. But I believe it uses a formed tube. Is it formed perfectly to the shape of the outlet hole no. Would it increase performance if it did, nothing that you would notice.

On the exhaust just because it is too expensive for you does not mean it is not quality. If your that disapointed in the avaiable options then make your own. Neither the o2 or exhaust is that hard to make on your own.

 

[96whgsx]

Add clear timing belt covers. The DIY to this doesn't work for shit, believe me.

In addition, t3 exhaust manifold, one that is casted and not tubular. I know turbonetics has one, but it is near the 500 mark.

 

[MaNGiNa24]

I have the VPE o2 housing, it's been a long time since I've installed it. But I believe it uses a formed tube. Is it formed perfectly to the shape of the outlet hole no. Would it increase performance if it did, nothing that you would notice.

On the exhaust just because it is too expensive for you does not mean it is not quality. If your that disapointed in the avaiable options then make your own. Neither the o2 or exhaust is that hard to make on your own.

Bushur made that same comment about the o2 housing not making that much of a difference with a formed pipe against a normal circlular pipe then ate his words when he dynod a 8hp difference with the evo o2 housings. I like to maximize efficiency, when something can be engineered better and isn't, that just isn't quality work to me.