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Street Build 87 Mitsubishi Starion 4G64.3 Swap Time

Posted by C89ZX7R, Aug 13, 2014

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  1. C89ZX7R

    C89ZX7R Proven Member

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    STILL BUYING ENGINE PARTS.

    * Build List "Parts I Currently Have"
    6-Bolt 4G64 Wideblock
    6-Bolt 4G64 Crankshaft
    6-Bolt 4G63 Dohc Cylinder Head
    6-Bolt Pauter 156mm X-Beam Rods
    Jay Racing Billet Main Caps
    Kiggly Main Girdle Brace
    Kiggly Racing Beehive Valve Springs
    Ferrea Stainless Steel Intake & Exhaust Valves
    Ferrea Intake & Exhaust Valve Guides
    GSC Power Blue Intake & Exhaust Valve Stem Seals
    JDM Evo 8 Intake Manifold
    Holset HE351CW Turbocharger
    Arp Head Studs
    Arp Main Studs
    Jay Racing Front Water Outlet
    Jay Racing Blank Coil Plate
    Jay Racing GM Alternator Relocation Bracket
    Shaved Dual -AN'd Valve Cover
    Magnus Fuel Rail

    *Parts Being Used From Previous Motor
    Aem EMS-4
    Aem Smart Coils
    Aem FPR
    Aem Boost Solenoid
    KDM Mpi Intercooler Piping
    KDM 4" Intercooler
    KDM Radiator
    KDM 3" Exhaust
    Greddy Type-R Bov
    Motorad High Flow Thermostat
    Fenderwell Cold Air Intake

    Current Installed Mod List

    Drivetrain Modifications:
    Competition Stage 4 - 6 Puck Sprung Clutch
    Short Shifter
    Poly Transmission Mount
    GNT Torque Tube Bushings
    GNT Differential Mounts

    Suspension Modifications:

    S&M Front Tri-Point Strut Bar
    S&M Rear Strut Bar
    Cusco Front Adjustable Camber Plates
    Eibach Pro Lowering Springs
    Front Suspension Tech Larger Sway Bar
    Rear Suspension Tech Larger Sway Bar

    Brake/Wheel Modifications:

    Abs Bypass Line
    Refinished & Polished Rims
    Datsun Z Brake Reservoir's
    Slotted & Drilled Rotors

    Interior Modifications:
    Tan and Black Leather Interior
    Autometer Carbon Fiber Boost Gauge
    Innovate Digital Wideband
    35% Madico Tint
    Push Button 2 Step Shifter Knob
    Console Hi/Lo Boost Switch
    Aem Usb Ecu Port

    Electrical Modifications:

    GM 110 Amp Alternator
    Red Top Optima Battery
    Welders Wire Battery Relocation
    Custom Relayed Cooling Fan Harness
    Putco H4 Relayed Headlight Harness
    Silver Star Zxe H3 55 Watt Fog Bulbs

    L.E.D. Modifications:

    X2 Truck-Lite 5x7 Led Headlights - 2600 Lumens
    X1 White Ashtray Led - 10 Lumens
    X2 Amber Front Side Marker Led - 100 Lumens
    X6 Red Tail Light Can Bus Led - 420 Lumens
    X2 Amber Front Signal Can Bus Led - 100 Lumens
    X2 White License Plate Led - 150 lumens
    X2 White Reverse Led - 400 Lumens
    X2 White Front Running Markers - 260 Lumens
    X1 Third Brake Led - 62 Lumens
    X3 Door & Dome Led - 80 Lumens
    X1 CF12ANL-01 Led Flasher Relay

    Replaced Oem Parts:
    New Wheel Bearings
    New Control Arm Bushings
    New Strut Rod Bushings
    New Ball Joints
    New Tie Rods
    New Tie Rod Adjuster
    New A/C O-Rings

    Other Modifications:
    83 Metal Scooped Hood
    Anti-Roll Over Valve
    Rotella T6

    I have two wideblocks. One is a G64B and other is the 4G64. Using the G64B for the mock up build while I order and build the 4G64. Mock up pics below.


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    P.S. CAR IS ALREADY WIRED FOR SPEED DENSITY USING A 4G63 SENSOR, WAS A DAILY DRIVER FOR THE PAST 12K MILES...


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  2. darknezz7

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    nice intercooler routing in that thing

    very, detailed? mod list

    sounds like a fun project, these engines would be great rwd.

    that things gonna cook. (more)
     

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  3. mitsubishikid

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    I love the rare early mitsu cars, you have a truly awesome star/quest there, so sad to hear the motor went on you, well at least you got as much fun and joy out of that motor before it gave up the ghost.

    Please do keep us all updated on the build man, I'm subscribing to this, I always love to see these awesome old nostalgic cars. kinda shame mitsu does not have an old school style rwd sports car like these to represent todays market.
     

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  4. C89ZX7R

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    2.6L trash is out. Found a G64B block in a really tight spaced junkyard.

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  5. Galant665

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    I did a 4G63 swap on an 89 widebody I got for $300. Rust free western car. Used a powerglide. AEM. Made a harness for it.
     

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  6. C89ZX7R

    C89ZX7R Proven Member

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    Yea, Since Im staying 5 speed I need the wideblock "G63B or G64B", 4g63 is a narrow block doesnt bolt up to my trans.[DOUBLEPOST=1413735118][/DOUBLEPOST]
    What turbo manifold is that?
     
  7. mitsubishikid

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    Are you gonna use a dohc evo 8-9 style cylinder head, or a do you plan on using the dohc dsm head.
    thanks for the update and keep up the good work.
     

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  8. C89ZX7R

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    TY, will be using a 1g dohc head and intake manifold modified for rwd.[DOUBLEPOST=1413763924][/DOUBLEPOST]Here is how the old setup ran after cracking all four pistons. Two cylinders had low compression, one ring land was completely broken from the piston.. Still idled great LOL....

     
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  9. Galant665

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    I built the header and intake manifold on mine.
     

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  10. C89ZX7R

    C89ZX7R Proven Member

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    Pulled the head off the 2.4L block, OMG that is the worst Felpro gasket I have ever seen. Mechanic must have been a noob to not see that when putting it on.

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    Cylinders are round but the gasket wasnt. You can see how the out of round the gasket was in this picture.

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  11. tomica93

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    2.4 gaskets arent round, just for the info
     
  12. C89ZX7R

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    Picking up Nib Ferrea Exhaust Guides and Arp Head Studs Today for 110 Bux.
    [DOUBLEPOST=1417965802][/DOUBLEPOST]Also picked up

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    Found a used 1g head for 60 bux.

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  13. mitsubishikid

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    Dude wish I knew how to weld, that intakes going to look nice, oh well, guess I got to learn baby steps first...
    what about bob.jpg LOL:D
    Are those springs, retainers, locks, also Ferrea brand?
     

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  14. C89ZX7R

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    Friend does the welding. He will also be making me a top mount T3 manifold.

    Picture of his welds



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    Kiggly Racing Beehives
    https://www.extremepsi.com/store/product.php?productid=23205&cat=1732&page=1
     
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  15. C89ZX7R

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    Found another 4G64 6 bolt wideblock with a good crank in the junkyard today. Will be dropping them off to be cleaned and magnafluxed this week...

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  16. mitsubishikid

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    After some cleaning and inspecting, it should be real solid man:thumb:.
     

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  17. C89ZX7R

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    Updated the 1st post. Also picked up the turbo for the swap, cant wait. "HE351".... Also just picked up the crankshaft from the machine shop, which said its in great shape. Thats a relief cause factory 6-bolt 64 cranks are really hard to find.

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  18. Devilsfutbol17

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    What are you planning to use for a Cam angle sensor and crank trigger? I am swapping my conquest in a few months because I bought it with a siezed motor and I also found a 6 bolt wideblock 4g64 and I'm looking into the options for cam and crank triggers.

    It looks like there are some hyundia 4g63's that have a head with 1g ports and have the spot to bolt on the cam sensor. That head combined with a kiggly crank trigger should do the trick. I plan to use ECMlink for my engine managment, I don't know how that differs for you since your using AEM EMS.

    Also I take it you're modding the head to move the coolant port to the front of the engine?
     

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  19. C89ZX7R

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    using a 1g head so its the 1g cas

    Mine is already setup to run and has been with the G54B with mpi using a modded 1g cas, there is no wiring involved on this swap.

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  20. C89ZX7R

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    Mail call. HE351 to 3" Reducer just came in the mail.

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  21. Devilsfutbol17

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    Any updates?
     

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  22. C89ZX7R

    C89ZX7R Proven Member

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    Pauter 6-bolt 156mm rods on the way, Jdm Evo 8 Intake Manifold is at the machine shop getting reflanged for the larger 6-bolt 1g head.
     
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  23. C89ZX7R

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    Mail Call, 450 bux later. Seller stated used for 300 miles then parted out the car. There going to the machine shop for a spec sheet, if they dont come out to what the seller stated then we will go from there. Took a cap off and it fits the 6-bolt crank like its suppose to. Caps are labeled Evo 1 - 6.141. Still going to drop them off at the M-shop.

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  24. C89ZX7R

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    Had the Pauter Rods checked out by Ballo's Machine Shop, yea same shop the Jafromobile uses.

    Pin Diameter .828
    Big End 1.889
    Length 6.141
    Rod 1 Weight - 645.7
    Rod 2 Weight - 644.6
    Rod 3 Weight - 645.3
    Rod 4 Weight - 645.7
     
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