420a 5spd tranny swap???

[Clipse90Turbo]

What's up everyone! I have a question about swapping my automatic transmission for a 5spd tranny. I've searched the forums, but didn't really get all of the info I was looking for, and a lot of the threads delt with a GST..etc. Anyways, I'm thinking about doing a swap and I have some overall general questions.

1) What other cars can I take a 5spd tranny out of and be able to bolt it to my 420a? I've heard you can use a neon or avenger transmission, but I wasn't sure on the years of those makes. So if anyone can provide a short list of model, make and year for the tranny's that are available.

2) What parts do you need in order to perform the swap. I was debating a visit to a junk yard and pulling parts from a 5spd non-turbo, but that may be hard to find. I've heard that there are kits out there, but I would rather do it, with the lowest cost involved. Also, concerning the parts needed do you have to switch out the ECU and Engine harness for the swap to work properly?

3) If you have any further info that could be useful I'm open to it all. I want to do this right, with as little problems as possible, even though I know all car work especially a swap will have issues!

Thanks for the time and space and I hope we can fill this out with a lot of good info. Maybe it could be used as a reference for the forum.

 

[1slow97]

Here you go..
Team 2GNT Forum - Viewing topic #7696 - 5 speed conversion prices

 

[Clipse90Turbo]

I sent a post on that thread too! That's funny! I got that information and was going to post it here for all to see on this site. I want to thank the member on 2gnt.com for all the information he provided. Thank you too for looking and helping me out too! From one car guy to another!

 

[Clipse90Turbo]

Here are ths sites that are alsoon the 2gnt.com forum

2GNT.com - Manual_Transmission_Swap
Team 2GNT Forum - Viewing topic #4297 - 420a Tranny Swap
Team 2GNT Forum - Viewing topic #57990 - Problem after the 5speed conversion
Parts list for the swap
http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMTswapWritten by Mike.htm
http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMT with pictures in document_files/vss.bmp
http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMT with pictures in document.htm

This covers everything in detail on what to do and what you need for the swap..

 

[davidaham]

ok i am still trying to get this speed sensor hooked up i just ran across this post on 2gnt i got the 1st and 2nd wire hooked up but on the 3rd wire i am lost any help??? i have a 97 eclipse 420a

Speedo needs 3 wires. When looking at the plug from the front side (back side is where the wires come out) and the clip on top. Numbers are from left to right
__^__
(1 2 3 )

Middle wire is location 2 and needs to be grounded. Run the wire into the harness and solder it to the middle wire of the Cam sensor (ground also).

Pin 1 is going to be a Yellow wire in the plug, this is 9v reference wire. Follow this to the spot where you soldered in the ground to the Cam sensor wire and splice into the yellow wire there as well. The Cam, Crank and Speed sensor all use the same 9v wire.

Pin 3 is the VSS signal wire to the ECU which is also 5v. This should go to pin 66 in A106 ECU plug (top plug in ECU).

 

[pwnzer]

to the op there is a thread at the top of this forum that gives a lot of information and some good links

 

[davidaham]

thats where i found all the info in the first place. so what i did was hook the black wire and the yellow to the the black and yellow wire on the cam shaft sensor like it said to do in the link above. and than ran the yellow/white wire to pin 66 in the ecu plug. and when i drive it the speedometer only goes up to about 20mph and it will pulsate up and down from 20 to 5 mph. so then i hooked all 3 wires to the same color wire on the ecu plug. and got the same result then i left the 2 yellow wires hooked to the ecu and hooked the black wire directly the the negative side on the battery post and still same result.. 2 years after doing the auto to manual swap i am geting tired of messing with the speed sensor. so any help would be great

 

[pwnzer]

I have not actually started this job yet, I'm sorry I can't be of more help. Im still looking for parts. If you find out the issue please let me know!

 

[davidaham]

oh ok well thanks for the reply