EC17PSE
Freelancer
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London, UK,
Europe
So as you all beginning to know I love to mingle with our cars and get new tech for them and today is no different!
This is just a survey to see who would be interested IF i was to look into getting these made.
I spoke to Quaife about producing a better ratio rack and pinion to use in our OEM housings!!! this means you will do less turning of the steering wheel to get more steering angle! great for all you who feel the oem setup is a tad weak and you put too much input into steering.
currently the details will be for a manual rack! 2G (properly Depowered) as thats all i have currently, I will look into a Power steering version but would have to be from another company or if they can do both then great,
These details are from Quaife and for the manual set only!!! I would be sending them my rack I have spare to get all data from and to draw it up and then they will tell me what they advise as a good ratio and what will fit and feel nice inside without being notchy etc. until I do this I dont know a detailed/exact price but they have told me a guide price which is the max and although it is a max pricing it might not be close to it. so it might be alot less then they tell me currently as a guide.
max guide was $400 for the rack and pinion only, some of their kits also come in around $200 ish so it is a big range, shipping would be ontop or see below for more details..
They advised me for the price to be at its lowest they need to do batches of 30 or more, the less are done the more they rise for each batch, He told me a few customers do similar to what I am wanting to do and they have done several batches now so are very happy to help and deal with me as an individual to take this on. It also means new parts for our old age cars with new age parts and replacement parts that are ever growing to us!
if this was to go ahead I would work with EMW who does the racks for us and Me in the past to make it all a breeze for the conversion and rebuild to your oem rack housing, which means bulk shipping to him so less overall cost to you all!
Please feel free to comment and ask any question you may have and I will try my best to answer them for you
Thank you and hope I can continue to provide new parts for these cars for a long time!
Bobby
Edit!! New details are in and i have all details so please read!!
Hello everyone, PLEASE READ IT ALL CAREFULLY! its detailed as much as possible so dont miss any parts! I will add more if I missed stuff also
As I said I recently got all the info from Quaife who have been working on my rack to get it designed and quoted for me/us.
firstly Im trying to bring new items to the group with as many new company's, as the more we get the better our chassis can become once more.
The new rack and pinion will be a kit which will also include the pinion bearing, pinion seal, pinion bearing cap and housing modification drawing.
Yes it says modification! here is why.
our OEM racks have a ratio of 2.55 lock to lock and in the size we have they could only get it down to 2.4 lock to lock! which is not good at all over stock, so they said they looked and did some checks and if 2mm overall so 1mm each side was removed from the ID then they could make a larger pinion and get the ratio to 2.1 lock to lock! which is WAYYYY better and really good infact!
I asked about strength and they said it was fine and will still be strong enough because that housing is still plenty thick enough, (Quaife wont risk it if they deem it unsafe for use)
They wont entertain any first batches less then 30! which might be the issue and problem here but if it works out next batches could be less per order so im lead to believe. initial batches and development first time is always tricky on quantity's,
again Im trying to bring some great high quality, highly needed items to this platform! if it dont work out we will never have such nice things
For this Kit it will be $310 Shipped! and thats them shipping to me and then me shipping in 1 pallet to EMW, if I had to do separate shipping for those wanting to do it themselves or someone else to do it then I (guess) another $50 for that shipping because of length of the item and some strong boxes I would need to order. but single pallet shipping is much more cost effective to you all and a better saving also with is passed to you all!
Those wanting power steering still please read! I have a few options for you,
1, is a company that makes EPW (electronic power steering) can design different kits from street to race programmable kits but are not very cheap about $800 to $2k
2, you can make your own kit from your desired parts of choice and there are many items now out there $-$$$
3, I have located a guy in the US that will make a bolt on kit for a 2G and is willing to make kits up in batches for those wanting them at a decent price with instructions, this is going to be the cheaper option and also bolt on with minimal wiring this would cost around $250, maybe a tad less the more he gets orders for!
so they are the options for guys wanting PS but will have to switch to EPS,
EWM (Eaton motorworks) will/would be doing all the rebuilds/conversions of the housings for those wanting that and he is going to be looking into the modification of the housing part soon, so i dont have any details of this total cost as of yet. $TBC
So thats it everyone, its what I have so far for you all on this,
if this sounds like something that you would be likely to get involved in let me know, those serious will be logged for some basic numbers down on paper to log it all properly now the details have been placed here of more info.
again this is just a survey currently but now more serious! haha
Thanks everyone for reading Bobby
any questons please do ask.
This is just a survey to see who would be interested IF i was to look into getting these made.
I spoke to Quaife about producing a better ratio rack and pinion to use in our OEM housings!!! this means you will do less turning of the steering wheel to get more steering angle! great for all you who feel the oem setup is a tad weak and you put too much input into steering.
currently the details will be for a manual rack! 2G (properly Depowered) as thats all i have currently, I will look into a Power steering version but would have to be from another company or if they can do both then great,
These details are from Quaife and for the manual set only!!! I would be sending them my rack I have spare to get all data from and to draw it up and then they will tell me what they advise as a good ratio and what will fit and feel nice inside without being notchy etc. until I do this I dont know a detailed/exact price but they have told me a guide price which is the max and although it is a max pricing it might not be close to it. so it might be alot less then they tell me currently as a guide.
max guide was $400 for the rack and pinion only, some of their kits also come in around $200 ish so it is a big range, shipping would be ontop or see below for more details..
They advised me for the price to be at its lowest they need to do batches of 30 or more, the less are done the more they rise for each batch, He told me a few customers do similar to what I am wanting to do and they have done several batches now so are very happy to help and deal with me as an individual to take this on. It also means new parts for our old age cars with new age parts and replacement parts that are ever growing to us!
if this was to go ahead I would work with EMW who does the racks for us and Me in the past to make it all a breeze for the conversion and rebuild to your oem rack housing, which means bulk shipping to him so less overall cost to you all!
Please feel free to comment and ask any question you may have and I will try my best to answer them for you
Thank you and hope I can continue to provide new parts for these cars for a long time!
Bobby
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Edit!! New details are in and i have all details so please read!!
Hello everyone, PLEASE READ IT ALL CAREFULLY! its detailed as much as possible so dont miss any parts! I will add more if I missed stuff also
As I said I recently got all the info from Quaife who have been working on my rack to get it designed and quoted for me/us.
firstly Im trying to bring new items to the group with as many new company's, as the more we get the better our chassis can become once more.
The new rack and pinion will be a kit which will also include the pinion bearing, pinion seal, pinion bearing cap and housing modification drawing.
Yes it says modification! here is why.
our OEM racks have a ratio of 2.55 lock to lock and in the size we have they could only get it down to 2.4 lock to lock! which is not good at all over stock, so they said they looked and did some checks and if 2mm overall so 1mm each side was removed from the ID then they could make a larger pinion and get the ratio to 2.1 lock to lock! which is WAYYYY better and really good infact!
I asked about strength and they said it was fine and will still be strong enough because that housing is still plenty thick enough, (Quaife wont risk it if they deem it unsafe for use)
They wont entertain any first batches less then 30! which might be the issue and problem here but if it works out next batches could be less per order so im lead to believe. initial batches and development first time is always tricky on quantity's,
again Im trying to bring some great high quality, highly needed items to this platform! if it dont work out we will never have such nice things
For this Kit it will be $310 Shipped! and thats them shipping to me and then me shipping in 1 pallet to EMW, if I had to do separate shipping for those wanting to do it themselves or someone else to do it then I (guess) another $50 for that shipping because of length of the item and some strong boxes I would need to order. but single pallet shipping is much more cost effective to you all and a better saving also with is passed to you all!
Those wanting power steering still please read! I have a few options for you,
1, is a company that makes EPW (electronic power steering) can design different kits from street to race programmable kits but are not very cheap about $800 to $2k
2, you can make your own kit from your desired parts of choice and there are many items now out there $-$$$
3, I have located a guy in the US that will make a bolt on kit for a 2G and is willing to make kits up in batches for those wanting them at a decent price with instructions, this is going to be the cheaper option and also bolt on with minimal wiring this would cost around $250, maybe a tad less the more he gets orders for!
so they are the options for guys wanting PS but will have to switch to EPS,
EWM (Eaton motorworks) will/would be doing all the rebuilds/conversions of the housings for those wanting that and he is going to be looking into the modification of the housing part soon, so i dont have any details of this total cost as of yet. $TBC
So thats it everyone, its what I have so far for you all on this,
if this sounds like something that you would be likely to get involved in let me know, those serious will be logged for some basic numbers down on paper to log it all properly now the details have been placed here of more info.
again this is just a survey currently but now more serious! haha
Thanks everyone for reading Bobby
any questons please do ask.
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