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  1. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    New cover finished ready to roll. 7.7k miles still.
  2. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    And you asked a question I try and avoid. The car will not be for sale to my knowledge. I do not have an interest in selling it in all honesty. I really enjoy having an actual concept to bring to shows because no one see's them ever. It geta noticed and is always the rarest car at any show...
  3. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    it is about 50 miles from me atm. Im currently building a 91 gst for my daughter once it is done I will have it back here closer. Plus the Targa is being made for it there then I will go get it.
  4. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    It has 7.7k now. Yes I drive it at night and away from public areas. Normally for a show I will drive it in close the night before then cover it and show up the day for the show. Chrysler spent 80k originally in 1988. And Collins and Aikman got it in 2000 when they bought Dura and redesigned...
  5. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Rip I hope I solved the mystery. For you. It is still around. I have been showing it since. For the last 4 months it has been in the process of having a new targa cover built by hand for the back. It required a few modifications but we have worked though them and I will have new photos up soon...
  6. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    I can post pictures though. Since they are not showing proprietary or Pantented items. I got to give a shout out the the little red parts jug that could still holding the parts after 20+ years. And I got it with the car with the plastic parts still in it. So this was the 2000 revision changing...
  7. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Well got some more info on the car. Build book arrived with everything. The original non functional design cost is lost forever officially but to make it from the non functional roadster to the functional convertible it is today was drum rollll.... 164 000 dollars in design and hardware costs...
  8. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    Build book is on it's way just got the tracking number. I cannot publicly post all the book because of NDA's while is it unlikely after 30 years it will be enforced. I will honor it for the builders.
  9. Fireraven

    Rising Price of the older DSM's

    No offense but the iconic pop up headlights of the 90-91 is iconic. They was the last pop up headlights. The g2 is iconic because it was used in movies. But I would buy a 90-91 long before a 94+. Because the 90-92 box was the first true 4 banger sleeper that would would eat that 600hp v8 up back...
  10. Fireraven

    General Stutter engine at idle

    Its dropping some rpm also so thinking tps
  11. Fireraven

    General Stutter engine at idle

    Got an engine idle issue what you guys think tps? Or something worse? Cut out in the open selection trying to find remote to set it to closed so it goes though cats.
  12. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    Time to update this build. So far all new tires and the exact rims it had on it before was put on. Factory rims and original tires was removed for storage. Targa cover still being built was delayed due to ice and snow from north Texas storms. New windshield is going to be installed after targa...
  13. Fireraven

    Rising Price of the older DSM's

    I noticed a rising trend in the 1g series and some 2g's mainly the AWD Turbo models creeping up in value and difficult to find clean examples now. I seen a lot going for 7-12k and the super clean low miles examples going for more. Anyone else notice this?
  14. Fireraven

    Best Shot of your DSM

    My favorite Picture of mine. With Robert and Jack 2 of the original builders and my friend Tom. Then the car cleaned up at a show.
  15. Fireraven

    DSM History - Touring the Factory

    I can go by this summer and see if I can find it. I might know a guy that knows a guy.Fyi the convertible laser is also there. Its the twin to mine it was the 2nd car mentioned in the old craigslist ad. Both was built together but was fwd non turbo. I will try and get pictures of it as well.
  16. Fireraven

    What is this car worth / Is this car a good deal?

    How much they asking for it? You should look for wires being messed up under hood for sure.
  17. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    Cracks and waves in the fender. Where the reinforcement was removed then added back to the structure. The fender was fixed a long time ago but the paint was not.
  18. Fireraven

    DSM History - Touring the Factory

    Ok now. The cars at the plant may not have been concepts. The first 2 produced of the tsi line for 90 1 for sure was kept at the plant and the 2nd was given to the city of normal but it may have been stored at the factory still. Now there was a few at the Chrysler hq in Detroit. Those was...
  19. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    No that's a totally different car. The laser was blue or green. That's the x23 prototype
  20. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    Well it was around for sure it was the same showroom desighn as mine I mean exact copy other than color and being a fwd not awd turbo. Both built by same company under same contract. Bob and Robert worked on them together. But these guys built 6-8 cars a year for years so going back 30 years...
  21. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    The big motor companies have a tendancy to loose there poop. Especially when you start asking about what they call non support vin# aka concept car vin#'s .and when you give them an exact vin # that 100% is one and you say well it's in my driveway they really get mad.
  22. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    The laser was a fwd was kept by Chrysler. It was in the warehouse. But I would bet it got crushed in after 98 when the line ended. Spoiler alert it's vin plates was pulled... Before Dura did the top.... That's the other one robert's son said might have been around on the old craigslist ad. But...
  23. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    Yes it is why I'm iffy on driving it all the way to OKC. Lawton I can take the back way avoiding 44. Im looking at a tilt trailer to take it on long trips. I really want to drive it on the coast to coast I do not think a car like this one ever has done that.
  24. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    I think I have gotten 13-14 on average but I have never highwayed it. So maybe it will be fine there on gas mileage.
  25. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    What I thought. But was just asking to see if anyone else had or has heard of the same issue. It appears yes and the answer is premium gas and roll. Far as gas mileage I do not think these cars got 16 mpg on there best days especially a turbo model. Thanks guys for in input.
  26. Fireraven

    What is this car worth / Is this car a good deal?

    Of course it is a legit question. Am I selling it not really" but everything has a price" especially right before show season. I just know a less than 10k miles g1 tsi is valued at 25 ish. And not replacing the top just the Targa cover on the back for when the top is down. And "niche" is an odd...
  27. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    It's only happen ever on a trip where I went off the beaten path and got gas at a less used gas station and then octane booster stopped it in a few seconds. Most likely was weak gas for premium
  28. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Nothing has made me more upset than today.. Today was tire replacement day. Not only are the tires not made anymore eagle gt +4 and mine only had 6k miles on them. I did not realize how hard they was till I put on the new ones and compared.but on the outside perfect. The tread had major chunks...
  29. Fireraven

    What is this car worth / Is this car a good deal?

    I got one for the group. Maybe not how much is this worth but how much you would charge. For it? Man it looks rough says its got 6.7k miles on it but who knows. Old guy I bought it from was a car builder of note. What you guys think?
  30. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    Its in the shop for a month having the targa hand made. And im going to Memphis this weekend. Super bowl. Next big car show I will come up.There is an indoor car show in lawton OK I was asked to bring it to. It should be there in April. I got really busy in end of November all of December so...
  31. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    Yep turbo car. Ok I have heard it ping then I added the octane booster to it immediately and it stopped I just waa wanting to check with others. On facebook guy said it needed to be tuned better but I highly questioned that that answer.
  32. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    I will look tomorrow. Mines at the upholstery shop. Pretty sure mine says unleaded gas but it may say premium. I was just personally told to only use high octane and if it pings add octane booster. Since I have always carried a booster bottle but I have had it ping on seeming gas just not up to...
  33. Fireraven

    What was your first DSM?

    First one I drove in I did not own was my step dad's 93 non turbo. First own I owned was the 1990 awd tsi talon concept.
  34. Fireraven

    General Low octane ping.

    I'm wondering does anyone else have issues with low octane ping. When I got my toy first 1 minute I was told premium only and if it pings use an octane booster. I have owned other cars with the same thing if I ran low octane it did it I put high octane in runs perfect. Any suggestions?
  35. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Figure it is time to update on the car. It is currently having a new convertible cover made for it. We looked at the color and stance of the car and decided to make it in Black to better blend into the back instead of the original tan which did not look as well. I found 4 new rims still in the...
  36. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Won a new Trophy for it. Most Unique. Judges said well you can't get more unique than a 1 of 1 concept release car. While I was given the diagrams for the car. The builder was packing up the office going though all the cars they built over the years and found the build binder for the car which...
  37. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    The black tape above the roof mount is a eye sore for sure. They untucked it to add the electric motor so the top screwed in but did not retuck the material mainly because the black boarder on top of the window was not waterproof. Which I am fixing that for sure. The entire frame was extended...
  38. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Had my first car show last weekend with it. I fixed almost every paint defect to perfection. Got a lot of looks and questions from other tuner owner's. Judges not so well. I was in an import class. Winner was a Mercedes lowrider very nice car. There was 5 low rider classes and he even said I...
  39. Fireraven

    Talon G1 Concept Convertable. 1990 Detroit Autoshow Release car

    1990 Talon tsi turbo concept convertible. I have told the story of this car here is more. After setting up this car to show again after being stored in a warehouse for almost 30 years. I started re-mounting the sun visors. Included with the car was the complete engineering specs on both the...
  40. Fireraven

    1992 Talon TSI 6/4 AUTO

    So you switched your 5 speed manual for an auto? Mind pming me the advantages? I mean im not going to do it to my current one but maybe in the future on a different build.
  41. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    While going through the parts box to get the sun visors out and remount them. I found these. The complete engineering design specs for the car for the functional convertible to be installed. Looks they they redid it in 2000 to do a better more stable design. When I bought the car I was told all...
  42. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    I been spotted sneaking it out.
  43. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    I did that myself 2 washes and 2 coats of wax with a polishing head on my buffer.
  44. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Never posted pictures with the top up because I had no reason to put it up. This is what it looks like.
  45. Fireraven

    Convertible 1990 Talon TSi AWD

    Took it to a tire shop today to get the tires checked over and rebalanced. Found out the date code and year was 11/89 so the original tires vr not zr are still on the car. I found another set of eagle talon rims there that are the exact ones I have and am currently going to order a set of run...
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