Bingo, The number one thing that people miss when they: -switch to ethanol -chemical injection (water water/meth) -run race fuelI cant imagine the 2g map (stock) with a slow burning mixture. That would be a dog!Those always need more timing. The mixture just burns slower.I either...

Alright, thats funny!I have my own Christine right now. I am now a firm believer that at some point in time, you have to push the reset button and start from scratch.Pull the engine, transmission...everything. Start with a firm foundation.Too many "Ill just fix this to get it...

I'm actually a fan of some of the EVO forums. Enough the same that you can usually find a tidbit or two of useful information.

Water and meth will do different things at different times in the combustion process.You will find a lot of comments about water being a better knock suppressant. You of course, will find the opposite spoken as well.I am currently leaning towards the thought that water will make a better...

Ok, I have never seen the show before (this seasons), I don't know about the drama or lawsuits or forum posts. I just watched this episode....They drove off course and into a concrete block. No drama, so setup, no EVO hating. Just, driver error.:ohdamn:

Everything about maintenance in this post is true. They tend to take more maintenance, but at the end of the day, you get a a really fun car!I hate to say it, but I also see way to many DSM'ers mickey mousing sh*i together. This then leads to breakage and unreliablility when they own the car...

Similar to my setup: 20g 680's keydiver chip yada yadaWorks well. Dont kill yourself with over analyzing :thumb:With the keydiver chip, he can set it up a little leaner (but safe) from stock. You wont use as much injector that way.With a keydiver chip, you dont need any other...

What do use for engine management / logging?One of the things I like about the talon is that it can be a high MPG car if setup and driven correctly.Cruise timing on fuel could be in the mid 40's on gasoline, so 50 may work for ethanol.

Its evolution. You have to let the old die, and the new to come. Sure, its going to hurt for awhile, but there is no other way for the process to work.No bailout, and let the chips fall.

Outsourcing..I got snagged by that!In my company, I decided I would not outsource. The only outcome I could see with that is long term, I would put myself out of business.Then, I got talked into it through a potential new partner. I gave it a try and it was a nightmare! The quality was...

Quote:"Should I be loyal to a company just because they came up with something first? Do I owe an allegiance because of some deep (mostly) irrational loyalty? Or do I owe loyalty to the company who can provide the best product at the best price with the most innovative features?"...

And the issue about patents. They are not a barrier set up by the govt. They are legal mechanisms set up to protect intellectual property rights.They are no different then the laws made to protect a citizen in a civil situation.The patent, IMHO, is one of the cornerstones of capitalism. It...

Lots of good talk here people.I just wanted to bring this point up so the next time someone went to the store (or online) they would consider their purhase carefully.A couple of points: 1. I try and buy name brand drugs. Why? Because those are the people researching the next type of...

Please keep in mind that I have nothing against one country or another, just business that rip off other's ideas. Its bad news, and even worse when you patronize another countries economy with it.That being said, we all buy from outside our economies, it cant be helped. What can be helped is...

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/299821-ebay-knockoff-gt35r-testing-3.htmlGot kinda ugly after I posted in the 35r knock off testing post, so 1st of all...sorry that some feel I was off topic there. That was not my intention.I didnt think it was so bad as we had...

More on the post above...Now, the standard argument (or at least what it boils down to) is I dont make enough money for an original part....You have 2 options (at least if you care about your economy) 1. Go out and make more money 2. Dont buy the part.There. My 2 cents is over.

Sorry guys. I know we all like to save some money, but I have a real problem with any knockoff from any country, and it goes like this:Reputable manufacturer invents, R&D's, and brings to market widget A. Standard markup for industry is applied and company repays development costs, and...

Cams are worth it. With or without headwork.650's are fineThe 190 fp is probably ok, but for a few bucks, go to the 255. It will do you for a 20g turbo with headroom.Yes, the 20g physically can not spool like a smaller turbo, you'll barely notice it the 1st day, then love the fact...

A 20g is a nice turbo wih WI and an FMIC. It allows you to start building really good street power (400 hp range) while still having stock internalsGreat things with a 20g: Cams A little headwork to allow you to rev higher At sometime, maybe new intake mani, but not required.You can...

The best way to deal with knock is to start thinking about it in common sense terms. what causes knock, and is there anything you are doing that could cause knock?Are you using good fuel? Are the insides of the enigine is reasonable shape? Excessive boost? Excessive timing? Bad AF ratio...

Yeah, Im fully aware of the dangers. I have not had a KS for going on 3 years (or about 25,000km's). No problems, and lots of test and tunes. I had a problem with PK then and decided that either I would run the car based on common sense, and yes, some luck, or it would need to self destruct, and...

Hey GlennI read Alcohol, Nitrous and Propane Tech - TurboBuick.Com from start to finish when I first started. You wouldnt need all that info, but in the earlier posts especially, there was some good debates about mixes.They lean towards straight meth injection.I run straight meth...

I always run 94 octane, but do have my injection come on at 2 psi. I like the fact that while in boost, theres always straight meth there.The other reason that I do it like that is because if I have injection coming on at say 10 psi, I already have a hot intake charge, and if my knock...

Ill go out on a limb and say that most 3 bar map sensors should operate the same.The principal being translate pressure to voltage in a linear form.HTH Jason

I have a well massaged 20g, and love it. Pulls like a freight train in all the right places :thumb:Since the car has been very inactive over the last couple of years, this weekends been fun. Ive been working out bugs (lots of those), but now have a pretty good handle on what else needs to be...

Well,after 2 years with MI, I got my Wbo2 hooked up today. My injection system uses an m15 and a progressive controller.OMG, I cant believe how much that system is fueling the car! With the controller knob turned up to halfway, I have to pull 20 percent fuel out from 3000 rpm and up on the...

Adding any injection into the calibration process throws monkey wrenches into the works, Good gains, but you need to throw out some old ideas, and try new things. Really, just keep it simple to start. You would be amazed what you can accomplish with one M15 nozzle pre TB, and a progressive...

I would say that my 14b was happiest at 20 psi BUT...what made the biggest difference was running the meth injection. That allowed the 14b to be out of its performance envelope, but not just stuff hot air. It also allowed an aggresive timing curve. It also allowed me to lean out the fuel. So...

By the timing light method, base idle is 5 to 7 or 8 degrees as factory acceptable. Check the sticker under your hood if its still there.My pocket logger never read that value. It was always another value, and I cant remember why, but it was normal, and probably the same with yours...

Ahh, refreshing not to get a "The sky is falling because you have no KS!!" reply.:thumb:It comes down to common sense (of the internal combustion engine kind)The J&S system was high on my list of priorties, at one time. Did a lot of looking at it and really liked what I saw. Mostly its...

After battling with my KS. I grounded it. Why? I know the car ran rich, I run straight meth injection and a big IC. Actually, I was still running the stock smic and 14b when I pulled it.The other reason I pulled it was I know my car, and was in for some experimentation. If it blew up so be...

Turboglenn,Your precomp nozzle looks like nothing special. Just a nozzle plumbed ahead of the compressor. At the end of that aquamist post, they were starting to go crazy trying to aim the injection directly at the comp nut. Seemed like they were way overanalyzing the concept.Whats...

I finally got through all 25 pages of that post.My impressions of pre comp injection? There were actually quite a few testmonials in that post of success,rather then failure. The concept of failures, seemed to be held to more theoretical issues. There was some mentions of damage, but in...

I use the alkycontrol kit (WWW.ALKYCONTROL.COM)Good kit, developer has a lot hands on experience with different vhicles / conditions. Have a look at the alky/nitrous subforum at TurboBuick.Com - The World Wide Web under BOOST! - Buick Grand National, GNX, T-Type. The developer is very...

Good thread here guys...better be careful though, all of this talk of running no IC's and injecting pre turbo will get us burned liked witches!I am part way through that huge thread on pre compressor injection, some really good stuff there! That will be next on my setup.I troll the alky...

I agree. Proper heat control is important. It wont net XX hp off the bat, but improve the system overall.Control heat:If there is a pipe/hose that contains heat, try to ensure that it does and does not leak heat into the engine bayIf there is a pipe / hose that you want to have...

To the OP:Go ahead and ramp up timing on that E85 until the power drops off, or it knocks. Most people never advance timing (or cant) when they switch to high octane SLOW BURN fuels. Race gas, e85 etc. Most dont have the cajones to play with timing and miss a lot of opportunity..Ive...

I use the alky control unit / system (WWW.ALKYCONTROL.COM) It may not have all of those additional items, but its very effective. It has also proven itself as being reliable for years with those people that have used it. A little maintenance from time to time keeps your nozzles clear, and the...

Thanks for the 1st hand info. I appreciate it.I will also be looking at ways to insulate the sensor wherever I put it.N/A motors have it so easy, just put it near the intake and there 'ya go! We have to worry about IC's, turbos, etc....

Thanks for the reply!Seems like two schools of thought on this... 1. Both nozzle and iat sensor pre TB, with iat sensor closer to throttle body. Give them some space apart.2.Place IAT sensor in intake mani. This would be very accurate as to what the real air temp hitting the cylinders...

Do you we have any users of AEM and methanol injection?My methanol injection nozzle is 6 to 8 inches from the TB, and Im trying to figure out the best place for the IAT sensor for the AEM system.I dont think you would want it too close to the nozzle, but would like to know what actually...

Im glad someone is working on it. Its going in the right direction :thumb:I like the RX-8 esque rear of the fenders. I had that idea as well.In its current state, if the bulge was a little less, it would be easier to transition toward the front and into the bumper area.Please...

Heres a testament to meth injection... Runing no KS for going on 18 months (with meth injection). Have put the engine through all kinds of stuff: Always on 94 octane:1.14b at 25 psi, 23 deg timing,450's leaned out to -15% 2.New setup with 20g and 650's, blew the non-stock but crappy...

Their (kinetic) street core should be perfect for those levels. Buy the kit, and sell your other pipes. Dont make it hard on yourself!I have the larger core. If lag is your concern, I wouldnt worry about it. Moving from a 14b to a 20g and the large core, lag is not an issue. It certainly...

Lots of good first hand info in this thread....for a good little street car: 3" exhaust stay with 1 g manifold for now stay with stock cams for now 660's eprom with the good stuff 2g mas 20g|fp green|fp3055 safc frontmount tuning supplysThen: water injection cams sheet metal...

Oh it was great right up to the 4th testdrive when the stock HG let go :thumb:I tuned agressively on the 14b, but that may have been too much with the big huffer in there. Ill start again on somewhat "safer" settings once the Hg is redone.But Ill say it again, running down the freeway...

Yeah, they put an engine development freeze on till 2010 (I think) F1 wants the manufacturers to start developing better management of heat and fuel.They dont believe that f1 engines spinning to 21,000 rpm can continue to improve the quality of their production cars any further.I say...

Ok, so, Im starving for car racing one weekend and run across a nascar race. Cant remember the track, but its the one road course they run for the year.Hmm says I, nascar guys on a road course, sounds cool. I start watching the pre show and what I started to hear made me roll on the floor...

Depends on what else you're gonna run....cams? intake? exhaust? The list goes on and on.FWIW, i just got my 20g on after stepping up from a 14b. Also have meth injection, fmic, 660's eprom 3" exhaust,etc. Stock cams, stock 6 block and intake mani though.That 20g pulls like a freight...

Incredible perserverance! :thumb:Puts any of my DSM woes in the proper light.