Originally posted by njshift
Why do you think that they made a tuning arm (SRT division) for chrysler and dodge?

SRT-4 neon
SRT-6 crossfire
SRT-10
any many others that i forgot to mentioned..

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what year was that division started? which year did the DSM line end? How much in R&D did they have to use in order to release this new lines?

Originally posted by heavyD
You obviously missed the Hot Rod magazine where they compared an STi and a Mustang Cobra. The Sti was faster and Hot Rod actually admitted that it was the better car.

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Yeah all around the stui and evo are MUCH better, but as far as speed 12.6 bone stock is a little faster then both, for a little extra dough I can go to my works parts counter and 20 mins later be running more boost6 and 11s. But still if I had the money hadned to me I couldnt tell you what Id do.
Andrew

ps a guy at my work had a 03 with cat back intake and pully(under 1k in mods) and he had his vert running loow 11s, his friend whos bay is right across from mine has a 03 coupe with cat back intake throttle bodie pulley and chip with decent tires hes hoping for 10s.

Originally posted by dets
what year was that division started?

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Early 2002 is when PVO (Performance Vehicle Operations) was officially a member of the Chrysler Group.

Originally posted by dets
which year did the DSM line end?

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DSM's stopped production in 98-99.

Originally posted by dets
How much in R&D did they have to use in order to release this new lines?

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As much R&D time that was needed..

never seen a stroked 350z with a tt kit yet. stuff is too new. but it's fact that with 4.2L and 20 lbs of boost, you're gonna get tons of power.

srt-4's have roll down windows in the back? thats so ghetto.

Originally posted by Powers_Vang
SRT4? Don't make me laugh SRT4 is a piece of sh|t car. Stock its ok but performance wise...

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:laugh:

-Groomz

Originally posted by JRaptor2000
srt-4's have roll down windows in the back? thats so ghetto.

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Manual windows weigh less. Cost less. Unless of course you need to drive around in a parking lot and roll down your window to talk shit to other ricers.

-Groomz

Originally posted by Groomz
Manual windows weigh less. Cost less. Unless of course you need to drive around in a parking lot and roll down your window to talk shit to other ricers.

-Groomz

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! Since its the "rear" windows, it would have to be for the drivers riceboy friends with "no car at all" to hang out the window and talk shit.:laugh:

If you want a bad ass EVO wait till september and get the evo MR 298lbs torque 276HP(rates which is BS if you have that much torque) 12.9@107mph, 98g on the skidpad, 6 speed tranny, active center differential, for around 33K i would take that over any car out there right now.

Originally posted by BOMEX DSM
If you want a bad ass EVO wait till september and get the evo MR 298lbs torque 276HP(rates which is BS if you have that much torque) 12.9@107mph, 98g on the skidpad, 6 speed tranny, active center differential, for around 33K i would take that over any car out there right now.

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thats that crazy 2 door thingy right?

Originally posted by 14.5 drift
thats that crazy 2 door thingy right?

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no its still an evo, 4 door. it has a slightly bigger turbo (i forgot the size). forgedd bbs wheels, aluminum roof and better brakes. i know the aluminum roof has part to do with it beign lighter. but if i remember correctly, it still comes with ac, radio and creature comforts. imagine combining that with the rs package of no ac, no radio, no hid lights, no rear windshield wiper, you'll have a beast with awd, 300 hp, that weighs 3000lbs with a diff in it. oh my god that thing would be a rocket ship

No its a 4 door looks just like the evo 8 now but with black housing headlights and tailights and an all carbon fiber wing(same style just all carbon fiber) as well as black recaros switch for gravel tarmac and its 300 pounds lighter because it has an all aluminum roof. No stereo thoe but who cares when u got all this to play with.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72302
here's a full article on the evo mr. my bad earlier, no radio, but it does have ac. the lightening came from suspension and a new roof and wheels

Originally posted by ldstang50
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72302
here's a full article on the evo mr. my bad earlier, no radio, but it does have ac. the lightening came from suspension and a new roof and wheels

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WOW! Thats awesome. EVO on steroids right from the factory.

30Gs can get a 91 or 92 NSX. Thats what I was talkin about.

njshift: Neon is still a POS car. :laugh: & who cares to get to know a POS car. A Neon is still a Neon just like a fast Civic is still a POS Civic. hahaha....

If my car was ever fast you can say "WOW thats a fast POS DSM." hahaha....

Originally posted by Powers_Vang
njshift: Neon is still a POS car. :laugh: & who cares to get to know a POS car. A Neon is still a Neon just like a fast Civic is still a POS Civic. hahaha....

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It seems we're entitled to our own opinion. But you have No validity and absolutely no good reasoning on why a srt-4 is pos. You said is has no performance and a bad engine which is all untrue.

Originally posted by Powers_Vang
SRT4? Don't make me laugh SRT4 is a piece of sh|t car. Stock its ok but performance wise...DSM all the way.

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Stock for stock a srt-4 performs better then any stock fwd dsm.

Originally posted by Powers_Vang
The Neon engine is Junk

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So get back to me with some facts, try to become better informed, than you can try to make a point. Until then you are just slinging more misinformation to those who don't know better.

Originally posted by njshift

Until then you are just slinging more misinformation to those who don't know better.

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I know better. The SRT4 may be ugly as sin but it does have a nice strong engine in it. If anyone doesnt believe that then check the SRT4 boards. One of those guys is pushing 500hp on the stock bottom.

Get the EVO 8 RS. Its all the performance without any of the luxury, just add on the features you want.

Originally posted by 1gE.T.
Get the EVO 8 RS. Its all the performance without any of the luxury, just add on the features you want.

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but the evo rs has roll down windows so it must be junk..
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Okay everyone is talking about the "warranty"....Umm HELLO!!!! you are all talking about modding it and such. Mitsu has been SUPER anal about mods to these cars. If you do ANYTHING to it they are threatening to void the warranty. So personally, bang for the buck, I would get a GSX. However if you have 30k to spend on the car and don't care if you mod it and blow it up that you may have to pay for it, then more power to ya. Just doesn't seem right. For MUCH less than 30k I could have my GSX looking better and performing better. Just my $0.02 so please just take it for what its worth and not tell me what an idiot i am and crap...

I tell this to all my friends that ask about stuff like this....choose whatever YOU like the best and it will be the best, who cares what others think.

Originally posted by jefferino
Okay everyone is talking about the "warranty"....Umm HELLO!!!! you are all talking about modding it and such. Mitsu has been SUPER anal about mods to these cars. If you do ANYTHING to it they are threatening to void the warranty. So personally, bang for the buck, I would get a GSX. However if you have 30k to spend on the car and don't care if you mod it and blow it up that you may have to pay for it, then more power to ya. Just doesn't seem right. For MUCH less than 30k I could have my GSX looking better and performing better. Just my $0.02 so please just take it for what its worth and not tell me what an idiot i am and crap...

I tell this to all my friends that ask about stuff like this....choose whatever YOU like the best and it will be the best, who cares what others think.

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jefferino, your opinion is stupid its dumb. don't you know everyone but you has 30k to spend. geez what are you talking bout. just playin man. sorry i don't even know you, just wanted had to go against the 'what and idiot you are line.' not insulting you

how moddable are WRX's? my friend is lookin to get one, not a STi, he's not that rich. For the money of a new WRX, is there a better alternative?

don't srt4's cost about the same? we know the srt4 motors are very modible. the subbie motors are tunable also. but does he want awd or fwd?

Siberian said:

Warrantee doesn't cover the clutch though. And with some people reporting it failing every 5,000 miles, and at $1,000+ to replace... ouch.

Don't get me wrong, some people say they beat the heck outa their EVO, and the clutch is going strong at 20,000+. But it's a big enough issue that "DID MITSU SCREW UP THE CLUTCH?" is a popular poll item over on the Evo forums.

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actually alot of people fixed this by going to an ss clutch line. search clutch on the evo forums and youll probably see a stick for clutch fix.

martyboss said:

Just make an spyder awd and another proper mods=####

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I like that idea!

I don't remember which mag. it was in, but they had a STI & a EVO go at it with same mod for mod. The EVO came up on top winning with flying colors. I like both cars...actually stock for stock I prefer the STI, but its not like I'd buy either for the price of 30k.

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I know better. The SRT4 may be ugly as sin but it does have a nice strong engine in it. If anyone doesnt believe that then check the SRT4 boards. One of those guys is pushing 500hp on the stock bottom.

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Too bad he blew it up last week. Put a rod through the side of the block.