Where can I get a true HID conversion kit for a 99 eclipse turbo. I want some really ####ing bright lights.

Where can i get H.I.D. for a 91 talon the pop up type headlights? I would really appreciate some help.

Originally posted by avaien
Where can I get a true HID conversion kit for a 99 eclipse turbo. I want some really ####ing bright lights.

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For right now, you'll either have to get something from a junkers that you can modify, or find a used kit. Aftermarket sales have been suspended:

http://lighting.mbz.org/nhtsa/NHTSA.html

If you already have projectors which use H3 bulbs, they're available at up to 130 [true] watts. Not the blue/xenon/hid/XXXXK/ice/plasma baloney, but real 130W h3 bulbs.

HB4 and HB3 bulbs are also available in higher wattages, but not in anything that's packaged like a Power Ranger's casket.

Originally posted by 91tsiawddsm
Where can i get H.I.D. for a 91 talon the pop up type headlights? I would really appreciate some help.

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Again, the HID street has been sealed off. Your best bet is either any European headlight replacement, or motorcycle headlights. Again, higher-wattage bulbs are available, but it's very unlikely you'll find them on any shelves. Check rallye suppliers.

did they suspend it on ebay too?


i mean, if you find the same item you can find on ebay because sometimes smaller based sales and private, or is ebay blocking those sales, how did you find out?

They've been off the market for a while now. Catz and Hella both announced their not selling them due to DOT concern / complaints. Quickly sifting through ebay searching for HID, all I really saw was simulated "HID" bulbs.. Not to say you can't find HID ballasts / lights in a junkyard somewhere, and retrofit them to your vehicle.

type in HID and the Right under the Search bar, click highest priced items first


Youll See Allllll of em.

You can still buy unsold HID kits from companies that have them in stock.

They're just not allowed to get more until the NHTSA figures out what to do about them.

Originally posted by Defiant
For right now, you'll either have to get something from a junkers that you can modify, or find a used kit. Aftermarket sales have been suspended:

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Hmmm, Midnight Moose is still carrying HID conversion kits right now; reading over the letter that Daniel Stern Lighting submitted to the NHTSA, it sounds like nothing has been decided at this point.

A little more research (yeah, I'm curious about this stuff) turned up an NHTSA priorities report where they state that a final ruling on this won't be made until 2005, and the stuff I'm finding on the NHTSA website seems to indicate they could go either way (but were, back in 2001 when they originally asked for public comment, leaning toward permitting HID use, but banning HID "look-alikes").

(Edit: looks like Midnight Moose is selling existing stock only because KMAX isn't supplying kits until a DOT ruling comes down, and that the disappearance of HID kits on the market appears to be a voluntary withdrawl of product, not an actual ruling. I find it irritating that I can't find anything about the NHTSA or DOT asking manufacturers to suspend sales on their website anywhere...anyone have a link?)

Even more interesting (or amusing) was turning up this little gem about how APC was fined $650k for selling unsafe lighting equipment.

But, there's something from the original poster that I wanted to point out:

Originally posted by avaien
I want some really ####ing bright lights.

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That attitude is the reason why the future of HID use on US roads is up in the air. You might be able to see better, but the people you're blinding with your "really ####ing bright lights" (which HIDs aren't, unless you incorrectly install them) are more likely to crash right into you than to appreciate your hella dope lighting, yo.

More information here, if anyone's curious:

http://hidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=613

(HIDforum.com? Damn, there really is a forum for everything on the Internet.)

Originally posted by logic
More information here, if anyone's curious:

http://hidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=613

(HIDforum.com? Damn, there really is a forum for everything on the Internet.)

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LoL

Have you seen the magic cone in the lounge forum?

EVERything has a forum, thats so nutty, but thanks for all the gret info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EDIT how much do you guys think a retrofit would cost if you did it all junk yard syle?

anyone have any info on what it takes to do this?

Originally posted by FiReBReTHa
anyone have any info on what it takes to do this?

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See HID Forum, they have a "Do It Yourself" section: http://hidforum.com/diy/

Also, one more followup to my own post; HID forum has another general discussion thread which involves both Daniel Stern and Richard L. Van Iderstine (from the NHTSA) regarding the issue. It's an enlightening read:

http://hidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=822

you shouldnt have linked me there. i am sooo pissed off.


but Thanks!!!! im checkin out the DIY the gov can suck my nutz and im on this to do what it takes.

I want really bright lights because it is impossible for me to see with my currnet ones not becuase other people think they are bright.