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Originally posted by jake98gst
as far as the best, i think were settled on dsmlink as the best.

as far as used parts: carpart.com

dsmlink if you have a 95 and aem if you have either 1g or 2g.
 
This all started for the 1g crowed. I didn't even notice and then it bounced to 2g. Don't pay attention to any of my posts in this topic :p
 
ya i was talking only about 2g's. sorry. I agree...DSMLink is hands down best for 2g's. And I guess AEM for 1g.

This is a hell of a thread. Whether be 1g or 2g, one can find all kinds of great info about tuning devices from those with the experience in this. Sticky?
 
Originally posted by Black95TSIawd
very good thread. Decided to bring it back to life. What do u guys think of the micro tech stand alone system?

this is the first time iv seen this mentioned on any dsm board. i know its popular in the rx7 scene. iv seen it worked first hand, seen someone do an emergancy install at the track in 4 hours, and i know a guy who is a microtec distributer.

i think its a great system. but no one in a dsm that i know of runs it.
 
well after spending about 14 hours this weekend reading about all the pissibilites and products. i think the cheapest and yet most effective way to go for my 1g is dsmlink. i dont think anything can touch it for the price.

jake
 
Originally posted by studio
well after spending about 14 hours this weekend reading about all the pissibilites and products. i think the cheapest and yet most effective way to go for my 1g is dsmlink. i dont think anything can touch it for the price.

jake

I like dsmlink.... I just have trouble justifying $600+ for a $5 chip.... It doesn't even come with the ECU.... Hell for 650+200+2G KS+wiring hassel, I will just go with the EMS (1G guy here).

Rogue
 
Originally posted by Rogue_Ant
I like dsmlink.... I just have trouble justifying $600+ for a $5 chip.... It doesn't even come with the ECU.... Hell for 650+200+2G KS+wiring hassel, I will just go with the EMS (1G guy here).

Rogue

ya after talking with a friend now im just going to go afc for now. an using thorttle sensor wire to boost sensor.

i dont know, itll give me some tme to think about it.
 
1g guy here


so you guys have come to the conclusion that the AEM EMS is the best for the 1 g...

can we get a comparison between the greddy e-manage and the EMS...for the 1g guys?

i dunno about dumpin 1200 + laptop + etc. for the ems.

the emanage looks like it is exactly what i want, in combination with a gm maf + translator.

& does anyone else have any more info about the emanage. i havent been able to figure it out from the greddy website.
 
i think afc and universial boost timing controller (100 from msd) is the best. the only thing that youll get more out of emanage or stand alone is 3d fuel maps. ?
 
Originally posted by studio
i think afc and universial boost timing controller (100 from msd) is the best. the only thing that youll get more out of emanage or stand alone is 3d fuel maps. ?

I don't think the MSD BTM is a good choice (is it even usable?) for our cars.

Rogue
 
Originally posted by Rogue_Ant
I don't think the MSD BTM is a good choice (is it even usable?) for our cars.

Rogue

i havent found any other option, and it will work on any car really. only downfall is ill now have 2 piggyback controllers.
 
if you want to do both timing and fuel get the e-manage.

EMS cannot be compared to the rest of these, as it is a standalone, and emanage, SAFC, dsmlink, are like piggybacks. it takes a LOT more knowledge and skill to properly set up an EMS than it does any of these piggybacks. it is also much more work.
 
Originally posted by studio
i havent found any other option, and it will work on any car really. only downfall is ill now have 2 piggyback controllers.

Haven't found any other option to do what exactly? What does the MSD BTM bring to the table that you can't seem to find elsewhere?

Brad
 
so if i get the dsm link, i don't need the apexi s-afc ii or avc-r...?

or do i still need the avc-r?
 
so with dsm link on my 2g, i don't need the apexi safc or avc-r? or do i still need boost control?
 
DSMLink does not have boost control capabilities. No it will not take place of both SAFC and AVCR...only the SAFC.

Jake
 
does the dsm link have more features then s-afc? can you still use the s-afc with it? or is it totaly pointless...

reason i ask is dsm link tunes with a laptop, what if i need more air and fuel when i turn up the boost a bit and don't have my laptop, i can do it with the s-afc
 
Do some research man. DSMLink will prove to be worlds better than any other tuning system for a 2g. SAFC only modifies the airflow signal the ECU sees, in effect fooling it, while DSMLink has complete and total control over fuel maps, timing, and a load of other things that an SAFC won't even touch. BTW, you can now tune DSMLink with a Palm Pilot. Sure an SAFC is cheaper, but it's obvious why.

Jake
 
Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
for 2g: DSMLink or EMS if looking for low 10s

for 1G: DSMlink, or chip + VPC + e-manage, or EMS if looking for low 10s


Why would I need a chip + a the VPC on top of the eManage...

What would I loose by just having the GM MAFT and the eManage/e-01 combo....

What I like about the eManage/e01 combo is that you can use it as your boost controller... so your saving a few bucks there which helps justify the price of the combo.

Any thoughts?
 
Originally posted by neuralracing
Why would I need a chip + a the VPC on top of the eManage...

What would I loose by just having the GM MAFT and the eManage/e-01 combo....

What I like about the eManage/e01 combo is that you can use it as your boost controller... so your saving a few bucks there which helps justify the price of the combo.

Any thoughts?

How much is the eManage/e01, with all the harnesses to control boost? How much are you saving again?

$50 manual boost controller, plus a $90 chip from dsmchips.com would be a better way to save money, and get you in the right ballpark ;)

Brad
 
Well... I do not want a Manual Boost Controller... so that is why I am saying its a savings as a Profec BC will run almost $300 anyway... I think you can get an e01... for about $400.
 
:talon:

I finally am going to (after saving and researching for well over a year) upgrade to a Evo 3 exhaust man, evo 3 16g turbo, the evo3 o2, with a correct for evo3 rre downpipe and 3" cat. (already have apexi catback) on my `97 Eagle Talon AWD.
It's time for a new cat anyway and I'm more than a little tired of the t25 laying down on me at higher rpm.
The way I see it I should do the job right and one time only. By doing the whole shebang I plan to minimize install downtime and total expense by not replacing a component twice or having to buy a "will work until next upgrade" part.

Prior to installing the aformentioned hardware, I also need to seriously address the Fuel Management end of the equation as I will need 550's, (Fuel pump rewire done) and upgraded 190 pump, particularly since I am at altitude (3k+ ft) in El paso tx and we have *Super Premium* 91 octane pp water :thumb: for petrol here.

I do not yet have an Electronic boost controller which I will also need as I will now need to be able to easily change the boost settings depending on whether I am driving or my wife is.

I am not a computer whiz (though I can use one quite efficiently), nor is there an AWD dyno facility any where within 8 or more hours from me (either Phoenix or Dallas Ft worth area), nor do I yet have a laptop or palm. I must be a lame-O as I never had use for one till now. The lack of a reputable tuner with an awd dyno will force me to tune the car myself.

I am considering the DSM link but I will need a Greddy profec b spec 2 also and the ECU itself. I am concerned about having to spec my injectors upfront, and how close the DSM Link base maps are to the "factory" maps. Those who already have it, would I be tweaking a little here and there to gain power, or really will I wind up creating the maps myself to get the car to run correctly while on boost?
I also am concerned about the possibility of having to reprogram it as I change the max boost level from 12-13 psi for wife and family, up to the 18-19 I want to run.

For these reasons I am also considering the Profec e01 + e manage.
I understand that it might not be as all encompassing but I really just want to be able to run larger injectors to take advantage of the larger turbo.

In otherwords I am looking to be quicker but not the quickest, while very very drivable in real world traffic.

Does anyone have an e-manage with profec e01 to share likes, dislikes, or experience with the forum?
I saw something on a prior post about not being able to play with timing and fuel separately with e-manage, is this necessarily a bad thing if I am not looking to run ridiculous (20+) boost or turn super low 13's?

Any suggestions (other than get a S-afc) on which way to go? i am hesitant on AEM because I hear great things about DSMlink and it is less expensive, though I do like EMS's "autotune" feature IF you buy a UEGO too.

I want a "set n play with it some and forget it exists"/"runs like it's factory" setup.
thank you in advance for any direction.


:confused:
 
Nice choice of turbo/exhaust setup, I bet it will be fun on the street.

DSMLink doesn't use similar maps to the factory, it uses the EXACT same maps. They use the factory ECU code, and just rewrite/bypass the problematic parts. If you want daily drivability with the ability to tune if for good power, that would be the way to go. Tuning it is a matter of slight tweaks onto the stock maps, you will find you don't need major adjustments, and it will work well. Emanage/e01 combo would require more work to tune in properly. The EMS auto tune isn't 100% auto, it still takes tuning skill and knowledge to handle. If you choose the settings right when you order DSMLink, you can more or less run it just fine without even tuning it(although not using its datalogger to check the tune of the car would be a big waste of a great feature). If you wanted, you could leave the settings identical from the 18-19 PSI, and the 12-13 PSI, and the car would still run just fine. If you want to try to the power for lower boost, you could probably tweak the settings a little.

I drive my car with DSMLink most every day, and have zero problems with letting others drive it, because its very easy to drive, no annoying hiccups or other problems. Its been running DSMLink and a 50 trim hybrid for 2 years now, and its had almost zero problems. As far as injectors go, specifying the injectors before you buy it is just to make sure that if the ECU gets reset, it knows the right settings for the injectors you have. You can always change the settings to match any other injector easily, you would just need to reload these settings before using the car if the ECU lost power. And if you go with DSMLink, you don't need to do just a slight injector upgrade. 660's might give you better results.

Brad
 
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