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OMN_DSM

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Dec 13, 2001
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Has anyone here removed there ABS system from there car? I want to get rid of mine for 1. it doesn't even work properly, 2. wieght reduction 3. puts me more in control of the car.

I need to know what all is involved what parts I will need for the swap and any other info that may be useful. Thanks agian

Mike
 
Can someone point me to maybe a FAQ on removing my abs? what do i need? part #'s or anything...appreciate it guys

Note that the VFAQ site's link is dead, and the original site it links has been "robot.txt" excluded from the Wayback.
 
Here is a VFAQ on removing the ABS

http://www.mckeone.net/abs.html

I did this on my car recently. You will need the proportioning valve from a non-abs car as well as the front brake lines and the master cylinder lines. The best way to get these is find a parts car, since you can't buy the lines pre-formed from the dealer. Even if the lines on the parts car are not re-usable you can use them as templates to bend new ones from brake line stock (I had to do this for a couple of them.) You'll probably need a small tubing cutter and double flaring tool as well.

A few words of warning. If you have AC and cruise be ready for a PITA. The lines and valve are in a tight spot already, the AC and cruise lines make it worse. It's not a difficult job but the tight spaces can be very frustrating. I used a dremel cut-off wheel to cut my flare nut wrench in half, made it much easier. Also, the easiest way to remove the old lines is to simply cut them and remove them in pieces. However be VERY sure you know exactly which lines to cut since the rear brake lines and the clutch line is routed along with them and you don't want to cut those.

The hardest part for me (other then working in such a tight space) was the lines from the master cylinder to the valve. They are routed down behind the brake booster and weave between other brake lines. It's a pain getting them into place and then connected. I only got one to work and then just made a new line for the other and routed it in an easier location.

Hope that helps.
 
Yeah weaseling those lines in there is a pain in the ass. Are you sure you can't buy the lines from the dealer, I did. They were backordered on one of them so I had to make it.

If you are making you own make sure you use a "double flare" tool no the "single flare" ones. I have both because when I bought them I didn't know the difference.
 
Maybe it is possible to get them from the dealer, I didn't actually try because a few people told me they were no longer available and I had a non-abs parts car anyway. Bending new lines yourself is not very difficult, especially if you have old lines to use as a pattern. And if you don't want to buy a double flaring tool you can loan one from Auto Zone for free (thats what I did.)
 
Where did you guys get the lines from that you made your self? I assume it doesnt matter if they are kinked a bit when bending or is that what the flaring tool is for? Im going to be removing mine as well but am having a hell of a time finding any non-abs lines for my car. If you can give any other pointers as to how the flaring tool works Id appreciate it...thanks,

Austin
 
If you have to make new lines just buy brake line stock from any auto parts store. You'll need 3/16" brake line with metric fittings.

Yes it DOES matter if the line is kinked. That's bad and it hurt your braking performance. Use a tubing bender to make the bends the right way.

The flaring tool is used to make a new flare on the end of the brake line. After it is bent you will most likely find that it is too long with excess on the end. Use a small tubing cutter to cut off the excess and use the flaring tool to make a new DOUBLE flared end. Be sure you put the fitting on the tubing BEFORE you flare it or you'll have to start over. Using the flaring tool is easy, just follow the instructions that come with the tool.

I got my brake lines and valve from a parts car. Try M&S Recycling or look for people parting cars on DSM Trader. Even if you don't find the lines you could make new ones by carefully measuring and test fitting on your own car. Just make sure you know where each line has to go.
 
Old thread, but I wanted to see if anyone has any input on how the brakes feel after removing the ABS.

My car has ABS which doesn't work anymore after replacing a broken fuse. The fuse didn't blow, I ended up breaking it while removing it, now the ABS doens't work. Is it worth the hassle if brake pedal feel isn't improved?
 
go to dsm talk and look there is a guy who did it and he shows some pics all you do it take out the control unit and use 2 T fittings and your done ill try and get a link for ya later
 
to make it easier for parts and stuff, have a non-abs donor car on hand.

it is a straight foward swap if you have the donor car. swap over all the non-abs lines and the portportion valve and that's basically it. all the lines from the non-abs sits fine but if you have the a/c, the lines might be tight but that is a minor problem only.

good luck.

later.
 
okay i have done the abs removal and i need new front rotors , but everywhere i look they new rotors say non abs. now when removing the abs i noticed that everything is the same on a non abs car as an abs car except the control unit, lines and the proporting valve, so if everything is the same now since i have no abs can i use the nonabs rotors? or is there a difference in the rotors itself? if there is where can i get the right rotors for the front?
 
hmm so nobody on this site has done an abs removal?

maybe this question is easier then

Is there any difference between non abs and abs rotors?
 
another day passes with no answer
hmm it seems if somebody asks which bov to use it gets answered damn quick or if somebody asks which rims look good on my car it gets a shit load of responses but when serious questions are asked here they get no response i might as well be in a honda forum this is not the first question of mine to get basically ignored thank you all
 
becasue he needs new rotors, probably warped.
Fist i don't think it matters that you took off the abs the rotor size and fitment will be the same. so you need rotors for a ? 92 tsi w/ abs.
However i would recommend against putting stock type rotors on the front especially if you have no abs and want to actually push your braking that far in a turn.
 
yeah severly warped rotors they are the same for nonabs for anyone else that needs to know im gonna get some slotted rotors for up front not stock thx
 
first off i have read through the posts about how to remove the abs and that wont be to hard since ive replaced brake lines on other cars before.

k my question is, after doing the whole brake lines and what not, what else needs to be done? do i have to do anything to the rotors? thats the only thing i havent really understood since not many ppl have replied to post dealing with that. do i switch to non abs rotors? any abs stuff around the rotors that has to be removed?

thanks.
 
and thats it?

well i doubt i have to remove the fuse, cuz my lights been on since i got the car and im pretty sure the system doesnt work. so i just wanna ditch it to free up all that room.
 
The 1G ABS sucks anyway so last week I pulled the ABS rings off to save a couple pounds of unsprung weight and just pulled the fuse, screw it. The ABS control box is heavy too, run the non-ABS brake lines and and ditch it. Check out how big it is. http://tinyurl.com/6wm3b I'm thinking about leaving the stock lines in place and putting the non-ABS proportioning valve in it's place.
 
So I've decided to remove the ABS on my 91 GSX. I've done all the searching, and it seems to be a straight forward deal. I call my local Satan to order the porportioning valve and the 4 hard lines and they tell me that they can't find them without the VIN# of a non ABS 91 GSX, as their system has gone to VIN# references. If someone could give me their 91 GSX non-ABS VIN# or even better had the part numbers I would be eternally greatful. If you don't want to post your VIN# to the forum you can email me at [email protected].

Thanks,
Dan

My ABS is not working properly, the light stays on and it's not worth fixing in my opinion. Plus, I've never liked ABS. From what I've read the 1g ABS has a terribly low pulse rate. I could probably do better with pedal modulation. I would also like to have the extra room under the hood. Is there anyone out there who would be willing to share their 91 GSX non-ABS VIN#? I would be very greatful.

Thanks,
Dan B.
 
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