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Lifter Tick [merged] Revised lifters 3rd Gen Generation 3g

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95talontsi

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Jun 29, 2002
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I am fixing my valve tix by taking out the lifters or the auto valve lash adjusters. I have the valves cover off, the engine is at top dead center and I am on 3# cylinder. I got instructions off the net, now with either a tool or a standard screw driver press down on the valve and remove the rocker arm then remove the lifter. Which then I will clean out.
The question is where do I push down, The valve has the spring around is and the metal cap on top of that( forget the name of that) where do I push down with out damaging anything, I will probably have to push a bit so I do not want to damage anything. please help?
 
Like i just read posted in another thread you might want to check your crank pulley if you have never replaced it. You can tell if you look down towards it and rev it up a little you may see it move sideways or you can pull your wheel off and see if it cracked around the rubber.

Been there done that not cool.... you will notice the sound at idle and when really pulling on the car. At fairly easy driving it, the spinning will cause it to kind of balance out and it will not be as noticable. I was driving along one day and heard this noise and i let it go for a day or two. I decided to check the crank pully and it was cracked. So I pulled it off and then I dropped it from about 8 inches off the ground and it fell into two pieces. Couldn't hurt to check it out.
 
xtra oil....i tried a centimeter or two above full oil line...seemed to do the trick....am i damaging more then fixing?
 
Yes i have searched the boards a couple times wit several diffrent keywords and i wasnt able to find my answer. I was just curious i know when ## lifters are clogged they u get a decently loud ticking noise from the motor. But where is this ticking noise coming from, is it the lifters itself or is it coming from the valves since the lifters are being clogged. I just need the info cleared up its driving me crazy.

If the lifters are what making the ticking please explain
 
yes its the lifters. what happens is that the lifters go bad and trap air inside them and collapse. no oil can cycle threw then no more causing the ticking noise. the revised lifters for your car are from a 2000 and up galant 2.4 liter i think. do some more reseach on revised lifters. that should help you out.
 
Laser4G63 said:
Here's what I'm using in my car right now. No problems whatsoever. When I bought them, I was weary about 3 of the lifters and contacted the seller and he sent me out new ones without hesitation. I also bought a couple $13 (about $17 with shipping) valve cover gaskets off eBay and no problems with leaking and it's been over 3 months on the current one and over a year with the previous one.
What was your concern with the 3 questionable lifters? So I can look out for it, if I buy a set.
 
ok for starters i have a 1998 eagle talon ESI. I've replaced the oil since i bought the 2 times first time i just normally second time i added a quart of marvel mystery oil to see if i could realse the lifter/lifters which had no effect. now the serious eye sore ive changed the oil twice and since ive owned the car when i do change it and when i checked it when i first bought it it didnt register on the dipstick so idk whats going on ive been under the car it does lead oil a little but not enough to loose all the contents. another thing when i go around sharp corners now my oil light will turn on. if anyone can help me id very much appreciate it. please as soon as possible.WTF WTF WTF
 
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This may be a stupid question, but when you change the oil, how much are you putting in?

The oil light in the gauge cluster is basically triggered by an on/off switch-type transducer. The light will remain off if it senses oil pressure, but will come on the second there is no pressure. Pretty much the only way for it to lose pressure intermittently like that is if there isn't enough oil in the crankcase.
 
update just added oil and started the car lifter tick still there now while its ticking im hearing a pinging sound every ounce and a while please help im getting worried i dont want to scrap my car
 
Check your radiator fluid, is it dirty or clogged.

Is there any radiator fluid or gas in the oil?

are u throwing any check engine lights?


Pinging noises are bad man, but hopefully its an easy fix.
 
no check engine lights are coming anywehere just the oil light

flushed my radiator 2 or 3 weeks agod but i did check and it was fine same normal green color no mucky or muddy fluid

i just put oil in and when i did check oil before it registered as empty but anyways no there is not coolant in the oil

i know pinging is bad i really hope i didnt through bearing if i did or am about to what all would i need to replace ???
 
Crimp the connector where it attaches to the oil pressure sender so your light stops winking.

You might want to try a can of RESTORE. As much as I don't care for additives (although Marvel Mystery Oil is one of the better ones), DSMs seem to like RESTORE. I have no idea why.
 
firefly1241 said:
no check engine lights are coming anywehere just the oil light

flushed my radiator 2 or 3 weeks agod but i did check and it was fine same normal green color no mucky or muddy fluid

i just put oil in and when i did check oil before it registered as empty but anyways no there is not coolant in the oil

i know pinging is bad i really hope i didnt through bearing if i did or am about to what all would i need to replace ???

Is your oil light staying on now? if so please listen.

The truth is your oil light is on because you dont have oil pressure. No oil pressure at the sending unit means no oil is getting to the head. no oil in head equals loud tick that can evolve into complete destruction of your motor.

First and most important thing you can do is hook an oil pressure gauge up to where the sending unit goes, then start the car and see what your oil pressure is. If you have oil pressure of at least 40psi on a cold start then your fine. check elsewhere, If you read low oil pressure of 10psi or lower your going to be in for some work.
 
ok,guys and ladies........ in the beginning of the summer my dad and i put a completely new head on my 92 eclipse and every thing went well....... unily recently it has had a bad case of lifter tick and it is baddddddd i mean really bad,and hella annoying, sounds like my valves are gonna come off and stab the pistons........ im just wondering if this is normal?
but i dont think so


oh and i just changed my oil also
i put penzoil in it :dsm:
 
Yes it's normal on the 4g63, do a search on lifter tick and you'll find tons of info. If you want to fix it you need the new revised lifters, look around a lot of the vendors on the site sell them.
 
yes, im positive it is lifter tick....... it is just friggin annoying.....

thankyou

Dennis:dsm:
 
I've had valve tick for quite a while now and it seems to have gotten a little louder, so I am now going to do something about it. Last weekend my friend and I pulled the valve cover off to start looking at this. We manually turned over the engine to see if any of the lifters were hanging, none were... The tick was coming from the top right of the engine. I decided to go wtih buying new lifters first and trying to replace all of those and see if it goes away. Any other suggestions?
 
I was going to buy new ones anyway because there about a 110,000 miles on the engine. Is there anything else that could cause the tick besides the lifters?
 
ALLBoostAWD said:
Check the torque specs on all your lifters prior to throwing money at it.
Perhaps you'll enlighten us as to which torque specs the lask adjusters might have?

Steve
 
mnetwork said:
I was going to buy new ones anyway because there about a 110,000 miles on the engine. Is there anything else that could cause the tick besides the lifters?

I don't think there is much mystery left about the causes of the lifter tick. The revised lifters (let's not call them 3g) fix the problem. For about a hundred bucks and a couple hours time, the irritating, broken down sounding tick-tick-tick will be gone.
 
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