Money order, be careful but if he's wiring money directly into your account prior to shipping, I don't see a problem with it.

I agree. I would accept a money order and cash it then wait a few days to make sure proper funds are available. I would not give him your bank account number at all. If he really wants it he will send the money order.

95bLaCkGsTuRbO said:

I agree.

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What I meant was not to accept money order as they can be fake. Wire transfer will only require the routing number, account number will not be necessary.

That is why I said hold it for a few days. To make sure it is a legit one.

yeah even if you hold it for a few days i dont think it will make a difference since shipping over seas takes a while... I don't think he would even notice. You could always just tell him you shipped it, then wait to make sure it clears, then send it to him.

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you could probably even tell him that's what you are doing.... if he is scamming you, then he will back off. or ask him to use paypal... it takes like no time to setup with your bank account and it makes things so much easier... and he can even pay with his credit card.

I would tell him paypal only,but he seems fake,i get that shit all the time, and at the end they say sorry for my bad english,

well, I think I'll ask him to use pay-pal and if not then a money order, how long does it normally take for a money order to clear, thanks for the replys.

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well, I think I'll ask him to use pay-pal and if not then a money order, how long does it normally take for a money order to clear, thanks for the replys.

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seven to ten days depending on your bank.
Mike

Don't fall victim to this scam. Whenever you get an e-mail with such bad grammar, it should set up red flags.

i agree with oldman
just do a wire transfer...

If the money order clears send him his stuff. Email him back and tell him you intend to do it. A money order from an American bank will clear faster BUT it must be in American $ so there is conversion to deal with.

Hey, they need parts too.

If you decide to go for it, definitely take the money order and when you deposit it, go into the bank and ask how many days for it to clear. Then let it finish clearing before you commit to sending the turbo.

well, money order it is, I'll wait it week, I'll ask hm to use pay-pal but I doubt he will, I'll let him know that I'm waiting a week to send out the turbo kit though, thanks for your help guys, James.

This is probably super dumb of me, but ..... could someone explain to me why a money order would need to "clear"? Isn't the point of a money order that, similar to a cashier's check, it's basically as good as cash, since the buyer of said money order must pay cash for it in the first place? I understand the danger of fake money orders, but wouldn't a bank be able to tell you if it's fake pretty much immediately?

As you can tell, I usually don't deal with anything but PayPal, so I am not really familiar with all this...The only times I've gotten money orders for things, they've been from American banks and I just cashed them at their bank of origin.

You guys have got me curious.

No, money orders aren't as good as cash on the spot. They still have to clear.

http://www.buy-and-sell-car-secrets.com/nigerian-car-scam.html

There are different kinds of this similar scam. And you can get money orders almost anywhere, not just American banks.

JohnnyC said:

No, money orders aren't as good as cash on the spot. They still have to clear.

http://www.buy-and-sell-car-secrets.com/nigerian-car-scam.html

There are different kinds of this similar scam. And you can get money orders almost anywhere, not just American banks.

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Wow, I had no idea this crap was even going on. . Call me naiive, haha.

That sucks

I knew it was fake when he said he had a DSM in the Czech republic.

It is a scam. If you really want to test it, get the money order and wait 60 days for it to clear. I gurantee you (willing to bet money on it) that the bank will tell you that it is fake.

I got ripped off on the Nigerian scam a long long time ago. The check took 2 days to cash and then 4 weeks later the bank said it was fake and held us responsible for the amount of the money.

DO NOT GIVE YOU ACCOUNT INFORMATION TO ANYONE WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW. THEY CAN EMPTY YOUR ACCOUNT.

SINCE THEY ARE INTERNATIONAL IF THE US GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF THIER COUNTRY, NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT AND YOUR MONEY IS GONE.

YES I LEARNED THIS FROM THE US SECRET SERVICE (WHO WE HAD TO CALL AFTER THE NIGERIAN SCAM)

Even if you let it clear for a week, it can take up to a MONTH for it to come up as fake. We deal with these dumb-asses all the time in the horse industry. The sad thing is, people STILL fall for this kind of stuff. Just end communication with him, it's a scam.

Cash is the only thing as good as cash.I got a fake cashiers check for 4700.00.The car they were buying was only 3500.00.The extra money is for shipping.Then they call and say they're not going to use the shipping Co. so could you please send back the extra 1200.00.I took it to my bank and told them I thought it was fake.They confirmed it was.The guy called again and I told him I cashed the check at a check cashing place and he could come pick the car up.I told him I had a blank reassignment for the title so he could resell the car without putting it in his name.I tried to get him to come pick the car up.When I knew he wasn't coming I said come on man the check was fake.He said I thought you cashed it.I said I lied,I was waiting for whoever was coming to pick it up and we were stomp the sh@t out of him.He laughed and said you guys were gonna kick my ass.I said yeah you or whoever you sent.We both had a good laugh. Even Paypal can screw you.A friend of mine sold a nitrous set up and they paid through Paypal .He met them gave the $500.00 set up to them.When he tried to get his money Paypal told him his account was on hold because of fraudulent activity,they paid with a stolen credit card.

Well, let me say something to that topic...
I am from Europe as well and I do have a DSM over here, imported from the US. There are a lot of these cars around here, especially in Switzerland or in the Russian states.

But you shouldn't give your bank account to anyone. Let him pay with paypal, or have him do a Western Union Money Transfer, these are available all over Europe. I would even prefer this way.

In addition, bad english is very common in the eastern parts of Europe since they did not learn it in school. Even here in Germany loads of people do not have any good english knowledge.

You should try to find out which is the safest way to get the money ( in my opinion it is the Money Transfer, he will have to pay it cash to the Western Union partner and they will notify you that your payment is available for pickup. ) and tell him to use it. If he is sincere he will use it.

I guarantee that if you ask him to use Western Union or whatever he will not do it. This just SCREAMS SCAM!!! Let me tell you as someone born in Europe and with family in Europe that his so called BAD english is not genuine.

I am familiar with all the common mistakes Europeans make when writing or speaking in English and the mistakes he made do not match up. Anybody with access to the internet could have grammer checked that paragraph and it would have read a lot different. It is like he is tryin to convince you he is foreign with his bad grammar, which means he really is not... get it?

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What I meant was not to accept money order as they can be fake. Wire transfer will only require the routing number, account number will not be necessary.

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Thats one of the oldest scams out there... Be VERY supsicious if he throws in a line like "the money order I am sending will be for $XXXX could you please wire the extra $XXX back to me please"

It can take up to 2 weeks to catch a fake money order, even though the funds will be available in your account, when it comes up fraudulent you are responsible for the money...

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I guarantee that if you ask him to use Western Union or whatever he will not do it. This just SCREAMS SCAM!!! Let me tell you as someone born in Europe and with family in Europe that his so called BAD english is not genuine.

I am familiar with all the common mistakes Europeans make when writing or speaking in English and the mistakes he made do not match up. Anybody with access to the internet could have grammer checked that paragraph and it would have read a lot different. It is like he is tryin to convince you he is foreign with his bad grammar, which means he really is not... get it?

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I wouldn't be so shocked. Not everyone in this world speaks "Americanese" properly, or at all!