Well I finally did it. Should be here at the end of the week.

I may just pull the head and do a headgasket(SCE titan) and arp studs just to be safe, and perhaps put new valve stems into the head.

I almost ordered the 200's but really didnt want to lose that much lowend because this car still gets driven on the road every day, all day and I need drivability

My last dyno was 344whp on 24psi and meth injection on my t04b vtrim.

I now have a t04b 50trim and these cams should hopefully put me into the high 300's and thats all I want and perhaps touch 400whp on race gas. Thats all I want out of a stock 7bolt.

Dyno should be coming end of next week, I will do a before and after max dyno pull at 24-25psi

Nice job on at least ordering A set of cams, however I would have gone w/ the 101200's on a street car. I will be getting the 101200's. Let me post some info about the 200's that made me decide on them instead of the 100's.
Heres some posts by other people, not me.
"I have the FP2s (which are very similar) and they idle near-stock with no degreeing. With the 50-trim I gained 5mph and .5secs in the 1/4 mile with no other modifications on pump @23psi.

BTW.. I suggest getting your rev limiter increased to 7800-8000 (w/stock springs) as you'll be dancing on the limiter really quick in every gear "


Everyday driveability is unchanged from stock other than spoolup is a couple hundred RPMs later.

Straight-up these Cams idled like stock with a deeper exhaust note. I did not need Adj Gears nor will I be getting any. I'm very happy with the performance right now.

My limiter is set at 7800RPM and 1-3rd gear goes by so fast now it's difficult not bouncing off the limiter.

These cams and the bigger turbo really open up the higher RPMs for you so use as much as possible. I'm not going to say there is no risk in raising the RPMs, just in researching what others have said and done before with the same cams/stock springs, I'd be comfortable running up to 8K

I have the FP2's since they were introduced. Love them to death. I also rev to 8,000 with the stock valvetrain and a light ported 1g head and i have had no problems whatsoever. The only problem i found was that the tranny sometimes doesn't like shifting from 2-3 at 8,000rpm but the no lift to shift took care of that for me with dsmlink now it goes in like butter As far as drivability the cams have almost no lumpyness at all. It pretty much sounds like a stock car and yes make sure to increase your idle to 950 or 1,000 otherwise your going to be stalling the car. I also have the fidanza cam gears but i have not yet taken the car to dyno and have the cams degreed so we'll see what happens.

Here is the entire thread if you want to read it.

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197036

And here is some PM's that were sent to me


Originally Posted by project_tsi
hi, I see you have the comp 101200's. How do you like them, and hows the streetabilty, etc, w/ them? Noticable gains?
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http://www.turbochallenge.com/manny.htm

Hey whats up,

As you can see on the dyno graph shown above in that link, I gained almost 65whp on the cams alone. No other changes were done (excpet air/fuel ratio's of course). Idle sounds so stock, it will have you worried at first. 264's are super lumpy compared to these. You will definetly loose some bottom end torque, but as you can see on the dyno graph again, all the power and torque just kick-on like an off-on switch at 4k! So just expect a tad bit more sluggishness off boost. I've had experience with 272/272's, 264/272's, and Web Cams and I have got to honestly say the best cam options for the street is either the 101200's or the FP2's. Just my opinion though. Good luck with your decision.

Manny



Originally Posted by project_tsi
Wow, thats some awesome news to hear, thanks. Upon installation, was there any degreeing that needed to be done to the cams? Or any other installation/tuning notes about them?

Re: comp 101200's.

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No, they are drop-in cams. No need to degree unless your head or block was seriously milld. Follow the install guide on cams, base time it correctly, and that should be it.

Manny







Maybe you can call them back up and get the 200's instead??

I would have went with the 200's If I were you, when daily driving you never need to go more than like maybe 30% throttle and it's not like your going to even notice the minimal loss at that low throttle level.

Good job ordering cams. Too bad you went small. Doesn't really matter all that much though as you will still be seeing performance increases with the 101100's

dont make me regret it


the 200's are bigger then 272s and ive heard 272s idle and its rough...I just dont want a 5000-8000rpm car, I want drivability power and passing power without having to race my car to pass someone

I hope the 100's still help alot which I think they will because they make more power then the 264's and people used to love those

I don't you'll be overly dissapointed with the 101100's, they will still yield you a really nice gain over stock.

I actually just picked up a 272/272 combo, i am hoping i'll get a nice mean sounding idle. I like the idea of people looking over at me and saying "yeah, that thing has cams". I know people who know nothing about cars will say "wow that things like shit" yeah until i leave them 10 car lengths behind me... hehe, but to each his sound, some guys dont like the sound of aggressive cams!

Either way, good job on the purchase!

The 100's are GREAT cams, these people talking have no personal expericance with them.

I gained 15awhp on pump gas and 35AWHP on race gas with the small 16g with just these cams. Cruising around you can tell the car has cams, low end (below 3grand) is useless pretty much now. But it pulls so much harder than stock cams. You will not be dicapointed one bit.

NewB2dsm said:

The 100's are GREAT cams, these people talking have no personal expericance with them.

I gained 15awhp on pump gas and 35AWHP on race gas with the small 16g with just these cams. Cruising around you can tell the car has cams, low end (below 3grand) is useless pretty much now. But it pulls so much harder than stock cams. You will not be dicapointed one bit.

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thank you...you gained 35whp on a 16g, and im on a 50trim and I run meth injection so its kinda like your race gas tune, cause I can run up to 22-24psi on pump gas. The more boost you run the more cams will gain because the stock ones just aren't up to the airflow

SO if I can gain 35whp with them on my setup on the street, it will be $400 well spent.

I know since they are bigger then stock, they will still lose lowend, thats why i didn't want the 200's they will lose even more

SOme people who say these 100's gain on the lowend over stock doesnt make sense to me, , cams are simple, they give up 1 thing for another, you cant gain on both ends with cams.

I just needed something because my stock cams were maxed out and weren't letting me flow anymore air, regardless of boost. I am stuck around 38lb of airflow

If i can get up and over 40lb with the cams I will be happy.

The topend of the 200's is appealing though, especially with that guy who gained about 55whp on race gas on 24psi with them on the same turbo I have...the 5000-7500 was just a huge improvement.

Oh well, we'll see how it goes. I want to start with these and see how they go for my first cams, if anything, I can always upgrade

I first heard this cams in dsmjims car and they worked very well and idled like stock. I just put a set in mine last week and they have no lope or weird idle. They also increase top end like crazy very nice cams indeed. Lets see if I can hit a high 11 tomorrow

I have the 101200 on my car with the T28. I only lost a tiny bit of low end and about 200 rpm spool. What hurt my low end the most is a SMIM, I seriously have like no power before 4k with a t28. Pulls hard up top but lose all fun factor around town, hopefully my next track visit will pay off.

I never said the Comp 101100's were bad cams. They will still give you a great increase over stock. Enjoy your new cams!

Just remember no matter what cams he gets hes still going to be spinning like a mofo. Just like me! Someone already quoted me from the other thread so i don't need to say anything more

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Just remember no matter what cams he gets hes still going to be spinning like a mofo. Just like me! Someone already quoted me from the other thread so i don't need to say anything more

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I hear that. Currently, I have no LSD in my car and its horrible. I can get 3rd to spin. Imagine what it will be like when the cams get in finally. Watch out 4th! J/K. But seriously, its time for a Kaaz.

project_tsi said:

I hear that. Currently, I have no LSD in my car and its horrible. I can get 3rd to spin. Imagine what it will be like when the cams get in finally. Watch out 4th! J/K. But seriously, its time for a Kaaz.

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Im getting suspicious about these comments, some of you people really need to invest in tires and suspension

I am making 320whp on my street tune and I can only sometimes get 2nd gear to light up from just throttling in on and getting power tire spin from a roll in 2nd

How are you spinning in 3rd? It would take me probably about 450whp to spin 3rd from a roll, are you talking about chirping the tires when you shift? Lookout 4th??? Are you on a set of spare tires up front?

I know tires make a HUGE difference, try some real tires perhaps, im on gforce2's and they are a huge increase over my old kumhos, which were a huge increase over the stock tires....so who knows...

But no way can I spin 3rd gear from a roll, not even close to it...and you're only trapping 109mph?

Back on topic, I hope the cams give me enough topend to where my wheelspin continues to redline in 2nd, right now it lights them up when I boost anywhere near 22-24psi, but catches traction around 6000rpm again, no topend with stock cams....

Im excited, but i do agree with you, i really wish i put an lsd in it when i swapped trannies last week...damn...I may just have to do it if i end up keeping the car

272's idle like stock if installed correctly.

I agree. I'm probably making similar power on pump gas and my car doesn't spin 3rd. I'm on the bridgestone's s-03's. However, on race gas and 28psi on the e16g the tires did let go for a second from a roll in 3rd at about 65mph. But that was probably due to a small bump in the road o something.

Also, the s16g I had would light the tires up in 2nd but then catch traction at 6-7krpm like yours. The evo16g however is relentless on my 2nd gear traction all the way to redline.

Ok, Yes my current tires are shit. And it currently has no rear setup of shocks/struts. Those are next on the list. The cams are free for me. If they weren't the shock's would be next. The rear setup now is stock and sucks. Yes, 3rd gear will spin from a roll at approx 26psi, peglegging ofcourse, but it does. I would not lie about this, as I'm not one to boast about things, but it does do it. Im sure your very expensive Tein Coilovers and complete bushing setup helps Tremendously, however my car is old, the suspension and bushings are wore out of old age. Im sure w/ propper rear suspension setup and some stickier rubbers then I will have no issues w/ 3rd, or possilby 2nd for that matter, especially w/ a lsd insert at least.

So I hope this cleared things up for you, sorry.

Well i have the lsd insert and its working just fine for me. I have the yokos es100's and they were nice when brand new but now am not liking their traction. I don't spin in 3rd only in 2nd. Unlike Naz though when when my tires spin in 2nd my tach goes straight to 7,000 and stays around there until i hit my redline at 8,000

Comp 100's are a great choice. I can't comment on how much they did by themselves since they were in 3 days before I spun a rod bearing and during my 6 bolt swap an Evo3 intake manifold and 1G TB found their way onto my motor. However on the new motor I noticed a nice increase in airflow, went from 27-28 lbs per min to 32-33 lbs per min according to DSMlink. Haven't been back to the track since last November but we'll see what she does in a few weeks, I'm still trying to get close to Kyle's time.

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I'm still trying to get close to Kyle's time.

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All in due time