I understand it is not out of the ordinary. My question was whether a rich a/f contributed to it. On my turbo Conquest the turbine glowed but I had no a/f meter with that car. No worries! thanks.
PS: I have removed the turbo. The intense heat destroyed the thin copper gasket that was supplied with it!!

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EDIT: Nevermind, you already saw.

Odd that my post disappeared.

The only time I ever see glowing manifolds is when people run cams with too much overlap or they're running rich.

Maybe it's just the crowd I'm around. /shrug

All I know from welding and chemistry experience is:
Glowing = bad.
It means the molecules of the metal have enough energy stored in them to start emitting photons (light), which is also close to the point when metal will start to melt. No good for lots of things, including turbo bearings.

Also, if the steel manifold attached to the ALUMINUM head is glowing, it's gotta be doing a number on that head. Aluminum melts at 1250*F, steel melts at around 2800*F...

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Remember, aluminum dissipates heat better than steel and cast iron too!!

i checked my timing today and the knotch in the crank pulley was just above the very top line (the arrow) is that ok? and when i park my car at night i see that my manifold and exhaust housing glow red. is this normal? O yea i also saw that i had a visitor in my engine bay. Some mice built a nest on the intake mani and cluttered it up with tons of nuts....thought i smelled something burning.

i checked my timing today and the knotch in the crank pulley was just above the very top line (the arrow) is that ok? and when i park my car at night i see that my manifold and exhaust housing glow red. is this normal? O yea i also saw that i had a visitor in my engine bay. Some mice built a nest on the intake mani and cluttered it up with tons of nuts....thought i smelled something burning.

Your timing is way off. It should be 5* BTDC but that sucks because I don't think your 99 has a way to manually adjust it....unless you have a 6bolt with a 1 gen CAS. You need to figure out how to adjust that or take somewhere or something. The glowing red isn't right. How does the car run?

Anyway, I feel your pain when it come to the rodents. Out here in AZ I've got to deal pack rats getting up in my camaro. One time I took a hose from the exhaust into the cab of the car, where the damn thing was, and killed him that way.

Kent

240kid said:

when i park my car at night i see that my manifold and exhaust housing glow red. is this normal?

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Yes. Search "glowing".

Is there any other reason that my manifold is glowing, other than I'm lean? My car was running fine until I had a fmic installed. The bigger throttle body elbow is obviously adding more air, so would this be making it lean. After climbing hills my manifold glows, and my coolant boils. I have stock fuel stuff except an s-afc. I've been trying to compenstate by setting my s-afc's hi and low throttle settings to like +12. Is this unreasonably high, or is that expected to richen it. What do you guys set your s-afc at? Please help me! I will be eternally grateful for any advice/opinions. Also, I hopefully have some rc 550's, a denso f.p. and datalogger cables on the way. Is it reasonable to think that fuel upgrades are going to take car of this problem? Oh yeah, I am also going to use a fpr w/ the upgrades. I only have a 14B on my 6 bolt w/ 10psi. I was having a problem w/ overboosting, but my Autometer boost gauge says I'm only running 10psi. This seems accurate b/c I was hitting fuel cut around 14psi before, and now I'm not. Please respond if you can spare a minute. Sorry if I sound like a moron, but I'm really new to dsm's. I've only had mine for about 4 months. Help a new dsm brother out w/ a few seconds of your time.

Whenever I go up hill my exhaust manifold glows, and my coolant boils. I just had a fmic installed w/ haphazard piping, and a new t.b. elbow. Would the increased airflow be leaning me out? I'm tring to compensate by setting my s-afc throttle settings higher. What do you guys set your s-afc's at. Is +12 too high? I have a stock fuel sytem. Could my injectors, fpr, or fuel pump be bad? Please help!

glowing mani is pretty normal.

On the 14B, there's no need to add fuel unless you're running very high boost, so you actually may be running on the rich side while thinking that it's lean. We could use some more info, such as how many psi you're running and what your EGT's are showing on a third gear pull. Again, high EGT's can be triggered as much by a rich condition as a lean condition, so I would re-set the AFC to zero and see if that helps you until you add the 550's and lean it out.

Also, I noticed that you have a fuel pump and a B&M Command Flow on the way. If I could make a recommendation it would be to ditch the command flow since it only allows you to adjust fuel pressure up and not down. In that light, get a 190 pump and not a 255 since the 190 does not require an AFPR and you can tune the richness of the 550's out with the AFC. Unless you're going for big horsepower numbers, try to keep your setup simple and remove as many factors from the tuning equation as possible. Keep in mind that a 190 and 550's can support a 16G very well so you'll still have headroom to grow.

As far as your boiling condition, I would take a look at or replace the thermostat and make sure that your radiator cap is functioning properly. The boiling issues could be caused by reduced airflow to the radiator, but that depends on the arrangement of your new core.

Drop us a line and let us know!

Andy

Your fine. I lit a cigarette off mine after I went for a lil "rallying" on a real nice flat dirt road.

One time my header was glowing, mainly because of an inproperly installed MBC, so my turbo was at full boost all the time. Luckily, it was a test drive, and I spotted the problem before any damage could have been done.

The header is very hot indeed, but I've never seen mine glow after that night. However when I do pop my hood after runnin the car, I have sweat dripping down my face in a matter of seconds.

Entirely normal, as your search for "glowing manifold" will demonstrate.

i know manifold glow is normal like normal glow like it shouldnt be bright orange all over the manifold ehxaust housing and o2 housing . so Next question is ive been told to check my timing to make sure its dead on the marks( how would that cause it ) two ive been told to check my lifter they can cause your knock sensore to pick up the ticking and read 43 knock on cruise conditions not under boost and pull timing retard and richen fuel cause manifold glow and horrible acceleration and loss of power to me this glow just insnt normal and liek a week ago i could do hours of hard 2nd -3rd gear pulls and pop my hood and it wouldnt be glowing so glowing isnt normal in this sense so please defianmt dont post saying search glowsing manifold i know alittle glow is good bu alot like in my case like your photoes after 10 mins of driving around the block no hills at like 45 mph in 5th gear shouldnt produce that type of glow. illbe eternally grateful for any help or ideas. it was knocking before but i richen it up 4 percent to get rid of it im running 15 lbs of boost,i dont have egt or widband so i go off my logger o2s which are rich under boost and cruise but still gives analog signals. help me please

when timing gets pulled a lot, you get partially unburned mixture in your manifold, where it burns, thus drastically increasing EGTs and making manifold glow.

I'm getting a damned hefty glow (and have used it to light cigarettes), but that's because I'm running 30% over stock PSI (walbro 255HP with no AFPR... yet), and the dumbasses that put my CAS back on left off the engine hoist bracket, so only 1/2 of the CAS is actually secured. Needless to say, the AFPR is on order as of today (couldn't find fittings for the AEM Universal), and I'm rather livid at Kar King in Ontario. And have to find some washers and a lockwasher to snug it down, after pulling out the silicone sealant they slathered on to try and stop an oil leak from a 'bad o-ring'. :b

-turbo, +afterburner

well here is some lee way that i made from checking my timing belt in full. I found that oil pully is off ( not in phase like it should ) and then my balance shaft belt is screwwed its gone period snapped . so i think this would make sense to say the blance shaft belt broke motor vibrates like crazy( not enough for a person to notice and then knock sensor picks this up retards timing and increases fuel resulting in shitty acceleration and really bad manifold glow.... what yall think.

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well here is some lee way that i made from checking my timing belt in full. I found that oil pully is off ( not in phase like it should ) and then my balance shaft belt is screwwed its gone period snapped . so i think this would make sense to say the blance shaft belt broke motor vibrates like crazy( not enough for a person to notice and then knock sensor picks this up retards timing and increases fuel resulting in shitty acceleration and really bad manifold glow.... what yall think.

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people remove the balance shafts completely without any harm, so i doubt the knock sensor is picking that up as the cause of your "knock"

yeah im sure it snapped because it was visual confirmation no telling how long its been like that and thats not the cause either. cause i did a timng belt job since i was donw there anywasy new blanceshaft bet and timingbet timed dead on time on all marks . oil pum right on and in phase as well. i went to the exhyuast to see if my cat was stopped up but it seem s normal im gunna gut that while im down there as well im running open down pipe and the manifold glows less i dont have hesitationg but i do have back fire so i dont know what to say whats the deal no clues as to what it can be to cause it to glow ive never had it glow on short trips cruise conditions.

On a side note, I've heard that the oil pump only fires once every three rotations, and that having it out of phase can cause major vibration in mid-high RPM ranges. I've got the vibration, anyone know how to check the phase beyond pulling the tensioner, giving the oil sprocket a turn, and putting the belt back on?

nope no news on that man i think thats the only way to do it man . but i did figure out an amazing and very easy soluting to repmaceing a blance shaft belt ona 1g 6 bolt without taking off the crank sprocket and back plate to get the BS blet with out damaging the belt in the process and it takes like 10 mins . ( j ust took a scre driver and bent the mettar back plate slipped it on and then bent it back i was like hell if i ever try to wait for some one with an impact wrench to get that damn nut offthe dam crank sproket.

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people remove the balance shafts completely without any harm, so i doubt the knock sensor is picking that up as the cause of your "knock"

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You're atalking about a completely different situation.
It's one thing to not have balance shafts at all, and completely another thing to have only one or have them off-sync. In that situation they drastically increase vibration. Eventually B/S bearings develop play an B-shaft starts wobbling in there, creating noise, that ECU gladly takes for knock. If you're lucky, you'll catch it before it takes out and seizes your oil pump....

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On a side note, I've heard that the oil pump only fires once every three rotations, and that having it out of phase can cause major vibration in mid-high RPM ranges. I've got the vibration, anyone know how to check the phase beyond pulling the tensioner, giving the oil sprocket a turn, and putting the belt back on?

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Rear B-shaft spins twice for every oil pump sproket rotation. That allows two possible phases (not three). The right one, and 180' off. The only other way to check, besides turning the pulley, is using access bolt on the side of the block, and poking inside with a screwdriver to check B-shaft position. The counterweight should be at the bottom.

Problem being, I supposedly have the balance shafts eliminated. At least, that's what Kar King told me when I asked about the new shortblock, having noticed the buzzing pretty quick. :b

after a run at night i notice that my mani glows red. I can only see it glowing in complete darkness so it isnt too extreme as opposed to it glowing bright red in daytime, which doenst happen. I need a egt so i can tell my temps but do others notice their mani glowing?

I onced dicked around with a friends prelude out on a highway stretch for about 20 miles. Did a couple pulls and cruising. When I pulled, my mani was a bright orange. Only happened that once to me though.