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ist dwa · Sep 2, 2022

Canadian_CD9A said:
Gosh, it's almost as if markets change over time. There was a time when old 50s & 60s factory racecars were just discarded junk destined for scrap, now many of them are worth millions. Muscle cars in the 60s were treated as disposable trash because they were everywhere. Good DSMs are absolutely collectables now, they are on the rise. You're like those boomers on Facebook who see a project car and say "those are $2,000 cars, they aren't worth any more" when the market on them is steady at $20,000. People took cheap DSMs for granted, then abused them and discarded them, suddenly they're all gone and few good ones are left. You cannot build a car of this caliber for $20,000, it's absolutely impossible - the paint job alone would be close to $20,000 today. A lot of the OEM pieces are not even available anymore. People with money realize that, and buy this instead of spending more trying to build something similar.

First off none of the OEM parts are available and have not been for a long time. I did a total restore on a DSM like this back in 07-09. Exact same quality, I could only get half the OEM bolts, I was able to source a few of the trim pieces etc.

I absolutely could build a DSM just like that for 20k.

7k$ for any running 16g DSM.
7k$ for a great paint job
that leaves me 6k$ to sandblast all the suspension and repaint it all, doesn't cost that much.

AWD-Tony said:
Find me one that’s remotely close to this one. I want to see pics of under carriage.

Again, I built one just like this a long time ago. And let me tell, the minuet you actually start to drive the car, it's get's all messed up.

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Canadian_CD9A · Sep 2, 2022

ist dwa said:
First off none of the OEM parts are available and have not been for a long time. I did a total restore on a DSM like this back in 07-09. Exact same quality, I could only get half the OEM bolts, I was able to source a few of the trim pieces etc.

I absolutely could build a DSM just like that for 20k.

7k$ for any running 16g DSM.
7k$ for a great paint job
that leaves me 6k$ to sandblast all the suspension and repaint it all, doesn't cost that much.

This is what you don't understand - the difference between restoration and refurbishing. Your "$20k DSM" in this case has a totally used engine, transmission, suspension, brakes, driveline, used wheels/tires, interior, trim, etc. It's a used car made to look nice. The DSM in question has tasteful modifications and new EVERYTHING. Rebuilt engine, a transmission that costs $4,000+ (that you can't find parts to build anymore). People who want the best pay for the best.

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AWD-Tony · Sep 2, 2022

Big difference in cost and quality when you paint something at home vs powder coat. Again, different league of restoration.

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That thing was nice and I’m sure it would’ve fetched a decent asking price but as mentioned, everything is new…everything. Even his pinch welds were mint iirc.

ist dwa · Sep 2, 2022

, all those pieces are powder coated, you don't know what you are talking about. No, my builds are in the exact same league. Those first pics were of my old car, here are some of the next/current car I have done. I switched over to the black suspension parts because the silver just got to dirty and was hard to keep clean.

OK, I am done discussing, good for that guy, glad he got that much, I would never pay that much and I have and can easily build something of the same quality for waaay wayyy less OH and my cars actually are fast. Fun times.

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AWD-Tony · Sep 2, 2022

Car sold for $46k and you put a value of $6k just because it has a 16g…yeah I have no clue. He didn’t cut his bumper at home with a dremel and I’m sure his doesn’t have the scratches at the bottom of the bumper either. He doesn’t have a mismatched hood that’s wrapped either. Again, two different leagues.

Mech Addict · Sep 2, 2022

Never thought it would go THAT high!! Almost exactly double my guess….
And those bidding wars only confirm what a fine example this is.
My perspective is that this helps save our hobby. If the nicest of our cars aren’t worth squat, then parts are really gone forever. It takes more than just the hi-po parts to have a fun car. Fast car with leaking door seals; no thanks. For about $600 I got about every repro rubber seal for my 69 dodge truck, because they’re actually valuable now.
Like many folks, of course, I don’t want to fix up a car just to sell. I do it because I want to drive it, and yeah, show it off a bit. Now for those who don’t mind parting with their hard work, there is a growing reason to do it.

Stapl3 · Sep 2, 2022

ist dwa said:
, all those pieces are powder coated, you don't know what you are talking about. No, my builds are in the exact same league. Those first pics were of my old car, here are some of the next/current car I have done. I switched over to the black suspension parts because the silver just got to dirty and was hard to keep clean.

OK, I am done discussing, good for that guy, glad he got that much, I would never pay that much and I have and can easily build something of the same quality for waaay wayyy less OH and my cars actually are fast. Fun times.

Then list it on BaT. Maybe the person that bought the car isn't a diehard DSMr and just wanted a nice example of the car and has the money and space. Things are worth what someone is willing to pay for it. You're just complaining to complain and coming off as super jealous.

1990TSIAWDTALON · Sep 2, 2022

Didn't I read that he has owned 90 DSMs I believe? Not 1990, 90. :idontknow:

I would wager that money is no object for the purchaser. They may have had 90 built for them.
We all know HOW to build them. Time/Knowledge = $$$$ too.

DreamChaser7 · Sep 2, 2022

I’m happy for the guy to get that much but I would never sell it. Can’t believe he did. He’s got to have more than that in parts alone and time is worth money too. My rolling/changing with research and availability parts list is over 80k as it sits now. I wish I had a way to get all those new oem parts not available anymore. Only thing that will keep mine from being perfect if all goes to plan.

1990TSIAWDTALON said:
Didn't I read that he has owned 90 DSMs I believe? Not 1990, 90.
I would wager that money is no object for the purchaser. They may have had 90 built for them.
We all know HOW to build them. Time/Knowledge = $$$$ too.

Some of us are still learning Marty.. :cool:

AWD-Tony · Nov 17, 2022

Guy that bought this picked up another clean 1g. Looks stock

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