That's a Chinese 20G.

fwdmaster said:

That’s a chinabay turbo man.

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That’s what I was afraid of. Is it a pos $200 turbo or $600 turbo . Should I scrap it and put a evo 16g in it? I’m new to the dsm world and want to keep the car 90% stock

Naleet said:

That’s what I was afraid of. Is it a pos $200 turbo or $600 turbo . Should I scrap it and put a evo 16g in it? I’m new to the dsm world and want to keep the car 90% stock

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Definitely the former. We'd need to know your plans for the car and the 10% that isn't stock currently to make a suggestion, but I would plan on doing a turbo swap soonish. Do you know how old that turbo is?

I’d seen these ching chong “t28’s” pop up on eBay before, seeing one up close it’s no shocker it’s a China 20g they accidentally laser etched t28 on to the compressor cover.

Like others have stated depends just how stock you’re trying to keep it.

If retaining the stock intercooler hoses and/or stock intercooler is one of those factors then something like a low mileage stock t25 or an old FP t28 is a consideration.

If not wanting to do any tuning is a factor then again a stock t25 or a t28 is an option, or JusMX141, who posted above, could do you a freshened up 14b from a 1g but in a 7cm turbine housing or any flavor 16g.

Just keep in mind, with all those selections mentioned and opting for no tuning, the proper precautions to prevent boost creep from occurring. Like porting the wastegate passage and o2 housing would need to be considered to maintain a lower boost level than the stock fuel system and ecu can deal with.

And I would also consider an upgraded fuel pump, either a Walbro 190lph if planning to keep the stock fuel pressure regulator or any higher flowing drop in pump if you’re willing to use an adjustable regulator as anything more than a 190lph can (not always but again, CAN) over run a stock fuel pressure regulator.

randman2011 said:

Do you know how old that turbo is?

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Apparently the turbo was put on then the vehicle had a misfire, after that sat for 4 years. I've had the car for 3 months and I am waiting on 1 more part to make it run perfect. Pretty much the car is all stock except that turbo and the injectors were bad so i put in 550cc fic injectors.

My plans are to just to a tune, exhaust, coilovers and make the car mint and stock looking as much as possible.

Spleen8urLSX said:

Like others have stated depends just how stock you’re trying to keep it.

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Thank you for that information. I'll keep that in mind. I''d probably go with a fresh 16g down the road once I get a few more things fixed on the car

Naleet said:

Apparently the turbo was put on then the vehicle had a misfire after then sat for 4 years. Ive had the car for 3 months and I am waiting on 1 more part to make it run perfect. pretty much the car is all stock except that turbo and the injectors were bad so i put in 550cc fic injectors. My plans are to just to a tune, exhaust, coilovers and make the car mint and stock looking as much as possible.

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You need to put stock 450s in it until you have the means to tune it. You can’t simply toss bigger injectors in with no way to compensate. If it seems like it’s running correctly like that, it’s not. Unless you already have something and a bass tune for the 550s it’s running too rich.

Spleen8urLSX said:

You need to put stock 450s in it until you have the means to tune it. You can’t simply toss bigger injectors in with no way to compensate. If it seems like it’s running correctly like that, it’s not. Unless you already have something and a bass tune for the 550s it’s running too rich.

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Oh for sure. The car had a ton of issues and sat for a long time. So I figured injectors were probably garbage so I didn’t want to waste the money on oem ones so I got the 550s for a good price. No I didn’t fix the issue anyways but plan to put stocks back in untill I have a different turbo and tune

Like I always say, the best turbos say "TURBOCHARGER" right on them. Would you by a brake rotor that didn't say "BRAKE ROTOR" on it? Or a power steering pump that didn't say "POWER STEERING PUMP"? Didn't think so...

jdub099 said:

Like I always say, the best turbos say "TURBOCHARGER" right on them. Would you by a brake rotor that didn't say "BRAKE ROTOR" on it? Or a power steering pump that didn't say "POWER STEERING PUMP"? Didn't think so...

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Some Genuine MHI turbos actually do, like this 18KX3.

Ah, well, it was just a joke. The "TURBOCHARGER" on the Ebay turbos always amused me. It makes me start imagining if every car part said what it was, including obvious ones like the steering wheel and cup holder. In aviation that probably wouldn't be that unusual now that I think about it.

I think this is a big 16 g but I'm not sure can anyone help me out?

Looks like it: Evo 1-3 Turbo Differences

Evo I, which is essentially a Big 16G. Turbine outlet flange is a bit different than the typical 78-11830 7cm2 housing but it's still a D2 casting and not the high-nickel F5 like the Evo II and III turbine housings.

4 - 4 1/2 years ago I had to replace water pipe o-ring. When I had the turbo out I was trying to figure which it was. I wanted to rebuild. I think I ended up just ordering a rebuild kit for t25 or whatever. I honestly don’t remember. I have turbo out again. Made mistake of not marking the shaft and what not before taking apart. Turbo in fact does need rebuilt. The kit looks like it’ll work. Problem is I still would like to know what turbo I have. I perhaps may just rebuild and then buy a bigger setup anyways.

Its been a bit since I've seen one but that definitely looks just like the t-25 factory turbo.

Garrett TB2566. If you want any chance of it actually staying together, plan on getting the rotor group rebalanced.

JusMX141 said:

Garrett TB2566. If you want any chance of it actually staying together, plan on getting the rotor group rebalanced.

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Yeah I knew when I was drinking taking this apart I forgot to do something. How much does that usually run getting it balanced. If it’s over $100 I might just go find a bigger setup.

95_gsx_2g said:

Its been a bit since I've seen one but that definitely looks just like the t-25 factory turbo.

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What I was thinking too. Appreciate it. Off topic but I was rebuilding due to oil burning issue. I was going to get it compression tested to check if rings are bad. I have replaced valve seals just a little over two years ago. It only smokes letting off throttle after spooling up and hard decel. I know at least some of the oil burning is due to the turbo cuz it has quite a bit of play. Just didn’t know how piston rings and when they burn the oil.

Tyler’s_DSM said:

What I was thinking too. Appreciate it. Off topic but I was rebuilding due to oil burning issue. I was going to get it compression tested to check if rings are bad. I have replaced valve seals just a little over two years ago. It only smokes letting off throttle after spooling up and hard decel. I know at least some of the oil burning is due to the turbo cuz it has quite a bit of play. Just didn’t know how piston rings and when they burn the oil.

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No problem ya that definitely would be a good idea to have it compression tested and see where everything is at. Thats good and ya that definitely sounds like the turbo needs a rebuild and maybe some new pistons/rings depending on compression. When I had previous smoking issues from leaks it would get alot worse when warmed up. Good thing is sales are coming up to take advantage of some savings like I plan to do!

95_gsx_2g said:

No problem ya that definitely would be a good idea to have it compression tested and see where everything is at. Thats good and ya that definitely sounds like the turbo needs a rebuild and maybe some new pistons/rings depending on compression. When I had previous smoking issues from leaks it would get alot worse when warmed up. Good thing is sales are coming up to take advantage of some savings like I plan to do!

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Question for you. Do you think if it is rings as well. Should I just replace rings and enjoy it for a little or just build it. My plans are full internals, FP green with archers fab manifold and etc bolt ons. Problem I’m having on deciding is is there much I can do to get more power like say 100to the wheels without too much money? If so I might do that to enjoy it or just tear it apart and build the motor and get the goodies. I’ve heard these cars for a lot of HP gains you’ll need to do some internals and bigger turbo. I’m wanting ideally 400-450 to the wheels. I didn’t know if I could get away with that on stock internals reliably or not. If not I’m just going to rebuild and sell the t25 and get to work. Thanks again man!

Tyler’s_DSM said:

Yeah I knew when I was drinking taking this apart I forgot to do something. How much does that usually run getting it balanced. If it’s over $100 I might just go find a bigger setup.

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Depends whether the rotor parts are clean or not, and whether the customer wants me to assemble the turbo afterward or they want to do it themselves.

Tyler’s_DSM said:

Question for you. Do you think if it is rings as well. Should I just replace rings and enjoy it for a little or just build it. My plans are full internals, FP green with archers fab manifold and etc bolt ons. Problem I’m having on deciding is is there much I can do to get more power like say 100to the wheels without too much money? If so I might do that to enjoy it or just tear it apart and build the motor and get the goodies. I’ve heard these cars for a lot of HP gains you’ll need to do some internals and bigger turbo. I’m wanting ideally 400-450 to the wheels. I didn’t know if I could get away with that on stock internals reliably or not. If not I’m just going to rebuild and sell the t25 and get to work. Thanks again man!

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If your on a really tight budget that might be the route to go. But if it were me after many set ups alot that I've regretted in the past id do it all at once if you can afford it. Its also not a bad idea to build for more power then planned in case you step up turbos at some point or do other power adders. Take a look at some of the names under my mod list if you want some reference to go off of. Along with the extra insurance factor is nice as well like I plan to do to some of my drivetrain over winter. All depends how well the stock block was put together and how healthy it is but it is capable. Ive made over 500whp on a stock block that wasn't that healthy so it didn't last long but was fun while it did . You'll definitely need more snail then that for your power goals. My last turbo (71hta fully rebuilt with new wheels by Robert that I sold for like 850) would be a great size to go with if you dont want more then you said above.

Hi guys!

I found a deal on a turbo but I cannot tell from the pictures what type of turbo is this. Can you help? Is this a 14b or a 16g? I have a guess it's a 16g but I want to be sure. These are the only pictures the seller have.



Thank you for the help!

Chinese knockoff 16g or ching chong td05 20g. Worth 50-75 bucks to the right buyer in working condition, not worth anymore than that.

Ok, thank you. I asked for more pictures just in case. I will put them here if I get them. But if it's a knockoff turbo, I wont buy it.