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I just measured the planted seat mount and got the exact same heights. Im measuring from the middle of the floor pan to top and from the foot where the tab bolts to. I have a crude drawing of where I measure from. Hope it makes sense. Lol. Keep in mind I didn't go to engineering school
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Planted:
Floor to top of slider- 4 1/2"
Front foot to top of slider- 2 1/4"
Slider height-1"
 
I just measured the planted seat mount and got the exact same heights. Im measuring from the middle of the floor pan to top and from the foot where the tab bolts to. I have a crude drawing of where I measure from. Hope it makes sense. Lol. Keep in mind I didn't go to engineering school
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Planted:
Floor to top of slider- 4 1/2"
Front foot to top of slider- 2 1/4"
Slider height-1"

Congrats! - you just graduated from engineering school. Lol - I got a B.S. in technical photography - Never touched an engine until I melted the bearings out of my 7 bolt by starving it of oil (long tale of bad decisions) Didn't stop me from learning.
 
Ok, so it seems like the wedge mount is cheaper and (slightly) lower profile.
https://wedgebrackets.com/mitsubishi-eclipse-1995-1999-seat-brackets.html ($99)

The black/grey cloth (for the hot days) will do nicely for my grey interior.
https://www.sparcousa.com/product/r100 ($330)

Now to the sliders. I'm guessing the options (Wedge, vs Planted/Sparco) matters more about the seat bolt pattern and under side of the seat itself.

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https://wedgebrackets.com/mitsubishi-eclipse-1995-1999-seat-brackets.html (+$70)

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https://www.sparcousa.com/product/track-set-slider#readmore (+$80)

Hard to say from the picture which one would be a better match up. my98gsx can tell us more about the bottom of the Sparco R100? How does it mate up with the slider? Does the raised ridge on the Sparco slider fit into the base of the Sparco seat?
 
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Wedge will only let you add a bracket to your cart for purchase if you declare what seat you are going to use, of 3 they support: Corbeau, Recaro or Scheelmann

I inquired from Wedge what makes the bracket different for each seat. Here is some more data from wedge:
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Hi Justin,

Yes, the bolt pattern at which the seats/sliders attach to the brackets is what makes them different.

Corbeau is 11 3/8” x 13”- (W x L)
Recaro is 16” x 13 1/4”- (W x L)
Scheelmann is 16” x 13”- (W x L)

Judd
Wedge Brackets
801.912.0450
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Can someone find out what the bolt pattern is on the Sparco R100's and the Sparco sliders? Maybe there is a match?

Justin
 
Ah, found it. The Sparco Seat Dimension Guide has the following specs:

R100
Bottom Mount = 271x345(mm) calculated - 10.67" x 13.58"
Height = 930(mm) 36.61"

As has been mentioned, Sparco on a Wedge - drilling will be necessary - but which bolt pattern would you get from Wedge? Does it even matter if you have to drill anyway?

I just re-read the entire thread - and I missed that the Planted front foot is lower than the Sparco front foot. Planted and Wedge have my vote.

Wedge/Planted front foot = 2 1/4"
Sparco front foot = 2 3/4"

So, I'm thinking if you want to spend the extra on the planted, you probably won't have to drill, because the planted design is supposed to work with Sparco.

I'm now wondering about the seat belt. - How does the seat belt mount on the Wedge compare to the Planted?
 
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I bought the Planted brackets to use with my RT4009's and it was immediately obvious that the setup (without sliders) was wayyyy too tall in my sunroof car, especially with a helmet. Like, nowhere even close to working. I ended up having to make my own brackets with the seat literally touching the floor, and even then it was barely lower than the stock seat (0.5" max). I do have the option to swap out the base cushion to gain a little more clearance, but not much. I'm 5'10" for reference.

https://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/my-fuse-box-relocation-project-log.298569/page-32#post-153687691
 
Ah, found it. The Sparco Seat Dimension Guide has the following specs:

R100
Bottom Mount = 271x345(mm) calculated - 10.67" x 13.38"
Height = 930(mm) 36.61"

As has been mentioned, Sparco on a Wedge - drilling will be necessary - but which bolt pattern would you get from Wedge? Does it even matter if you have to drill anyway?

I just re-read the entire thread - and I missed that the Planted front foot is lower than the Sparco front foot. Planted and Wedge have my vote.

Wedge/Planted front foot = 2 1/4"
Sparco front foot = 2 3/4"

So, I'm thinking if you want to spend the extra on the planted, you probably won't have to drill, because the planted design is supposed to work with Sparco.

I'm now wondering about the seat belt. - How does the seat belt mount on the Wedge compare to the Planted?

So the seat belt mount is stock location. You will have to unbolt the seatbelt fastener from your stock seats and bolt them to the new mount. It's a massive bolt. I cant remember if I had to buy a nut or not to mount the seatbelt.

For the sliders the bolt pattern won't matter because it's a hole so you are just fastening the seat to the sliders. My status seats had no issues, but they also use recaro bolt locations.

Also if you want to have track instructors in the car with you then I'd recommend buying a pair of seats. Although I balled out on the driver seat and passenger I just got a generic sized race seat so my passengers don't hate me. Some of my friends are still too wide for my car but that's their problem not mine.
 
I bought the Planted brackets to use with my RT4009's and it was immediately obvious that the setup (without sliders) was wayyyy too tall in my sunroof car, especially with a helmet. Like, nowhere even close to working. I ended up having to make my own brackets with the seat literally touching the floor, and even then it was barely lower than the stock seat (0.5" max). I do have the option to swap out the base cushion to gain a little more clearance, but not much. I'm 5'10" for reference.

https://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/my-fuse-box-relocation-project-log.298569/page-32#post-153687691
I like what you did with the brackets. The R100's from Sparco must be really different than the full bucket, non reclining RT4009 from RaceTech.

I'm laughing at the image you have of the factory stereo amp still under the passenger seat!

- but at the end of this if I have to toss out the wedge bracket in order to lower the seat, I will.
 
those look like what I have! those smaller holes are where the slider mounts to and the tabs sticking straight up is where you mount the seatbelt fastener to. If you love their logo i'd recommend some glue those stickers just flake off :)
 
Speaking of headroom,

I am looking at a sunroof delete. I’ll fold this into the body work and paint phase.

A new roof requires popping out the front glass breaking it, removing trim, rear hatch, and rear 1/4 glass, and interior, then un-welding and re-welding the roof.

This is looking more and more desirable given, my paint is shot, headliner falling apart, front windshield is pitted, and my heavy sunroof has no working sun shade and opening the roof has a 50/50 chance of closing again.

And now I ask, does the dome light on the solid headliner also work if you have map lights on your rear view mirror? (LOL)
 
On my build thread, I have continued this, now out of the theory, and into the practical. The Wedge brackets are not good out of the box for a GSX. The passengers side is acceptable, but needs a bend on the left foot. The Drivers side is another story. The AWD tunnel bumps out and into the inside rail, it won't sit flush on the mounts, and the holes don't lineup. This bracket was clearly not fit in a GSX. WEDGE customer service is good. They want to make it right, but its a mess.

I did weigh the stock seats:
Driver side power seat comes in at 51.4 lb!
Passengers seat is 38.2 lb

I will compare when I have a complete bolt in replacement figured out.
 
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I anticipate the next problem will be the Sparco bolt pattern is longer (front to back) than fits on the WEDGE bracket. (groan)

So - maybe someone who has the Sparco sliders can give me a heads up on what they think about drilling a new hole in the bottom track of the slider that fits at 13" apart, instead of 13.58"? Is there hope here? (groan)
 
Sparco R100 out of stock. (ugh) Sparco estimates $150 for shipping. (ugh). Welp, this is going to take a while. Guess my Birthday present won't be on time.
 
Jeez that's frustrating! Hope you get that all figured out... I'm not sure how the rearview mirror dome lights are wired in. But I'd imagine you would have to get a new dome light assembly from a sunroof less mitsu and a standard rearview mirror.
 
I'm looking at options. The black/gray R100 is 12 weeks out. 4 weeks for all black R100, or black/gray Chrono Road.

I wonder if anyone has seen a Chrono Road in a DSM? The width is more than the R100, and the Chrono is "fully suspended". I'm trying to figure out if that is actually a good thing or not.

Standard Chrono Road vs R100
Width - 572mm vs 521mm
Height - 927mm v 932mm
 
Everybody cross your fingers - I found new stock through an eBay distributor with free shipping at a discounted price. I'll be the first person to say - this looks too good to be true. I reached out to confirm the inventory, and got a positive response. The sellers online feedback looks good with lots of volume, but I'm skeptical.
 
Everybody cross your fingers - I found new stock through an eBay distributor with free shipping at a discounted price. I'll be the first person to say - this looks too good to be true. I reached out to confirm the inventory, and got a positive response. The sellers online feedback looks good with lots of volume, but I'm skeptical.

Shipping! Wow, I hope this is real. Grey/Black in this car should look good. Free Shipping and a below list price? The internet gods are getting my hopes up.
 
The modified drivers bracket is on its way back to WEDGE for rework. Hopefully the next 2G DSMr will benefit. They have the information they need to make a template for this chassis.
 
H-A-P-P-Y ... H-A-P-P-Y
Seats arrive early!
R100's are made in China (BTW) which explains the insane low list price - $330 ea Sparktecmotors charged me less and free shipping.

This e-bay distributor was for REAL - < sparktecmotors >
Note: The website for the same was way out of date - and did not show the same inventory as what e-bay was showing.

However - I was lucky this time. The distributor did not add any additional packaging to the product. The Sparco box barely protected the seats - and I mean BARELY. If the handling had not gone as well, these would have been ruined. The cardboard on the back had warn through in one spot, clear through the bubble wrap inside exposing the seat fabric to abrasion. THANKFULLY the seat held up. The box was generally one strip of tape away from disaster. So - be warned. My gamble not wanting to wait 12 weeks, or pay for shipping worked out this time.

Here are some pics. I think this color is perfect for a grey interior - black car.
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Just a mock up - I don't have all the parts to finish.
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I anticipate the next problem will be the Sparco bolt pattern is longer (front to back) than fits on the WEDGE bracket. (groan)

So - maybe someone who has the Sparco sliders can give me a heads up on what they think about drilling a new hole in the bottom track of the slider that fits at 13" apart, instead of 13.58"? Is there hope here? (groan)

Just to clear up some detail on this - the bottom mount on the seat is 13.58" wide x 10.67" front-back. Mounting without sliders would actually be difficult to work out.

The slider, is same width 13.58" wide, but the bottom tracks have holes at about 12.5" front to back, which is within surface area on the bracket. Drilling new holes in the sliders will not be needed, but new holes will be located to drill into the WEDGE bracket for optimum placement.
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Ah, found it. The Sparco Seat Dimension Guide has the following specs:

R100
Bottom Mount = 271x345(mm) calculated - 10.67" x 13.58"
Height = 930(mm) 36.61"

As has been mentioned, Sparco on a Wedge - drilling will be necessary - but which bolt pattern would you get from Wedge? Does it even matter if you have to drill anyway?

Ok - Judd at WEDGE dropped this tid-bit of detail.
Corbeau is the closest configuration to Sparco for WEDGE bracket - EXCEPT - the location you want to drill for the Sparco slider will be right where the outside rear chassis mount tab is welded on, making it difficult. When ordering their bracket, you can request a Sparco slider bolt pattern for an additional $15 adjustment. (wish I had known that)

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